Chick-fil-A opening near West Hollywood

[MoltenRock III]

I'm out to my parents & a few of my friends. Therefore, I am not closeted. I also live with my parents to save money. I'm not like, rich or anything. I drive my dad's old Mercedes-Benz -- he gave it to me when he bought a new one for himself.

Since my response was about one's (your's or someone else's) career you've never been out at work, thus closeted.

That aside, you don't see your hypocrisy when you just admitted you haven't had a longterm full-time job; you drive a Mercedes provided free of charge by your parents, who pay your medical (and auto insurance?) insurance, while "saving money" living at home (aka... Rent free) vs. those who need full-time career opportunities to live, and yet are an expert in gay or age related discrimination?

If you don't want to eat there, then don't. That's your decision to make.

That's the difference between you and I. I use my money, influence, and voice to speak up for gay rights everywhere, and demand employers like Chick Fil A provide equal opportunities, insurance, and don't discriminate against my gay brethren who might need to work there to pay their bills, provide food, and a livelihood. There's nothing in it for me per se. However, due to the courage, conviction, and power of those before me I am able to have a career as an openly gay man with no shame or discrimination in my industry. Had it not been for them our only choices were to stay closeted or be a hair dresser, flight attendant, or work in a clothing store (all of which don't pay well).

 

[MoltenRock III]

But don't to try to prevent me or other people from eating at Chick-fil-A, or anywhere else for that matter.

How am I "preventing" you from stuffing your maw with yard bird gristle? That "pang" in the pit of your stomach isn't me. It's your guilty conscience. That.... or it's a gallstone / gastric tumor.

 

[rareboy]

I'm out to my parents & a few of my friends. Therefore, I am not closeted. I also live with my parents to save money. I'm not like, rich or anything. I drive my dad's old Mercedes-Benz -- he gave it to me when he bought a new one for himself.



So what? Chick-fil-A is a private company, and they can do as they wish. If you don't want to work there, don't. If you don't want to eat there, then don't. That's your decision to make.

But don't to try to prevent me or other people from eating at Chick-fil-A, or anywhere else for that matter.

Oh God.

Do you see any of us lined up trying to prevent overweight infants from choking down an msg laced sandwich (which, I point out again, is what fast food addicts are literally addicted to) of chicken cooked in lard?

Nope.

Everyone who is addicted.... just keep packing the shit in. But stop whining about body image. And why everyone is so much hotter than most American boy-pet--children who have been pampered their entire lives and never required to do a lick of real work.

And don't mind if I do whatever I can to bankrupt a company that I believe to be working against my best interests. It is Amerika. My success is defined by their failure.

 

[Telstra]

Oh God.

Do you see any of us lined up trying to prevent overweight infants from choking down an msg laced sandwich (which, I point out again, is what fast food addicts are literally addicted to) of chicken cooked in lard?

Nope.

Everyone who is addicted.... just keep packing the shit in. But stop whining about body image. And why everyone is so much hotter than most American boy-pet--children who have been pampered their entire lives and never required to do a lick of real work.

And don't mind if I do whatever I can to bankrupt a company that I believe to be working against my best interests. It is Amerika. My success is defined by their failure.

All i can do is laugh at your posts and Jayqueer.
Reminds me of AndrewD ..

I love how you pick a fight with one person at a time ........

 

[Just_Believe18]

I like to consider myself Chick-fil-A's liaison to the gay community. I am the voice for conservative gays who love God, America, and Southern-style chicken sandwiches.

Omgosh, I had heard about this thread, and now that I've finally seen it, it's hysterical! Especially to those of you who had never seen JayQueer post before. Just the bewildered tone of confusion in your posts was priceless.

Yes, JayQueer. You are "The Voice" of all conservative gays. Not "a" voice but "THE" voice! And by golly, you speak for every conservative gay who loves God, America, and Southern-style chicken sandwiches! Nevermind us "liberal, overpriced, vegan, Democrat, Communist, volunteer, homosexuals." We're all the same, apparently. All you need is a "straight, manly, white, Top man" to burrow into your voluptuous, welcoming curryhole (your words, not mine).

May Chick-fil-A hire you, and may you bask in the celebrity of being a public figure for all gay conservatives! I can see you now smiling in commercials and winking at the camera as you take another big bite out of that Southern-style chicken sandwich!

 

[JayQueer]

How am I "preventing" you from stuffing your maw with yard bird gristle? That "pang" in the pit of your stomach isn't me. It's your guilty conscience. That.... or it's a gallstone / gastric tumor.

No. I can assure you it's hunger pain.........for Chick-fil-A!



Don't stand between Chick-fil-A fans & our Chick-fil-A............

Eat mor' Chik'n!

 

[JayQueer]

And don't mind if I do whatever I can to bankrupt a company that I believe to be working against my best interests. It is Amerika. My success is defined by their failure.

Wow. If this is the "open-minded" tolerance that a lot of liberals preach, I don't want to know what "closed-minded" is.

Nevertheless, while I disagree with your position, I respect your right to do as you please & not eat at Chick-fil-A. While you may disagree with my choice to eat at Chick-fil-A, I hope you respect my right to do as I wish.

Now that's real tolerance.

 

[JayQueer]

That's the difference between you and I. I use my money, influence, and voice to speak up for gay rights everywhere, and demand employers like Chick Fil A provide equal opportunities, insurance, and don't discriminate against my gay brethren who might need to work there to pay their bills, provide food, and a livelihood. There's nothing in it for me per se. However, due to the courage, conviction, and power of those before me I am able to have a career as an openly gay man with no shame or discrimination in my industry. Had it not been for them our only choices were to stay closeted or be a hair dresser, flight attendant, or work in a clothing store (all of which don't pay well).

Yes, you speak up for fit, athletic gay people while insulting & ridiculing gay people who are obese or overweight (look at your other posts & pictures you posted in this thread).

By the way, why do a lot of queens get this idea that they're Rosa Parks? Nobody is forcing you to give up your seat or move to the back of the bus. Many of you top HRC donors already sit in first class -- sipping champagne and enjoying caviar with Joe Solmonese, or some big celebrity like Ellen Degeneres, Neil Patrick Harris, or Cheyenne Jackson.

You forget gay people, on average (overall), have more disposable income than straight people. Nowadays almost all major companies in most industries advertise directly to the gay community. It's not because all these companies are suddenly pro-gay rights. It's because they want the $$$ that gays bring.

Chick-fil-A is an anomaly to that pattern because it holds true to its Christian & conservative roots. Even in the 7-day, 24-hour pace of Southern California, Chick-fil-A closes on Sundays, forgoing the revenue they would have generated. Chick-fil-A would never be "pro-gay" for the $$$, like almost any other company does.

And you know what? Despite all of the anti-Gay Hoopla that came about in January of this year, Chick-fil-A is more popular than ever. In fact, Chick-fil-A is aggressively expanding in Southern California & the Chicago metro area.

 

[JayQueer]

Yes, JayQueer. You are "The Voice" of all conservative gays. Not "a" voice but "THE" voice! And by golly, you speak for every conservative gay who loves God, America, and Southern-style chicken sandwiches!

Good point. If that came across as arrogant, I certainly did not intend to & I apologize. I'm just one conservative gay person. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Nevermind us "liberal, overpriced, vegan, Democrat, Communist, volunteer, homosexuals." We're all the same, apparently.

Well, not completely the same, but mostly the same. I'm not afraid to admit that I shop at a Wal-Mart Supercenter to save money. I've learned how to shoot a couple different types of guns, and I have my NRA card. If I was White, some of you might call me a "redneck" or "white trash" (or you would at least think it). I just don't see the point of spending $$$$ to buy vegan cheese made from hazelnuts.

All you need is a "straight, manly, white, Top man" to burrow into your voluptuous, welcoming curryhole (your words, not mine).

Yes I want to find a White, masculine "Total Top" guy who wants to be my life-time partner. I want to find my hubby!

May Chick-fil-A hire you, and may you bask in the celebrity of being a public figure for all gay conservatives! I can see you now smiling in commercials and winking at the camera as you take another big bite out of that Southern-style chicken sandwich!

If it was up to me, I would want to work with Chick-fil-A to help them reach out to the gay community in a way that was consistent with Chick-fil-A's beliefs, but also acceptable to gays. Maybe like encouraging Chick-fil-A to make a small donation to a gay Christian group or organization that did not take a formal position on same-sex marriage.

I think that gay conservatives are the best people to reach across the political divide because we understand how it is to be a conservative, and we also know how it is to be gay. There is a lot of misunderstanding & distrust of both groups towards each other.

 

[scream4ever]

"You forget gay people, on average (overall), have more disposable income than straight people."

Wrong. It's spending habits which are different. Gay couples have to pay thousands extra each year for the same benefits straight couples get by the government.

 

[rareboy]

Wow. If this is the "open-minded" tolerance that a lot of liberals preach, I don't want to know what "closed-minded" is.

Nevertheless, while I disagree with your position, I respect your right to do as you please & not eat at Chick-fil-A. While you may disagree with my choice to eat at Chick-fil-A, I hope you respect my right to do as I wish.

Now that's real tolerance.

You just don't get anything do you?

You can't even understand the double meaning of what I wrote.

It is Amerika. Americans define their success by others' failure. It is the conservative capitalist ethos.

It is exactly what Chik-Fil-A is doing by supporting the fight against homo marriage.

Religious conservatives feel that they only will succeed if they ensure that others' aspirations and attempts to obtain their civil rights fail. Their private faith and beliefs are not enough for them. They are like the taliban or Iran's theocratic rulers. They can only be happy if they are in control of everyone's behaviour.

You've made it crystal clear in your other recent thread that got vapourized that you don't have a fucking clue what liberals are or how they think.

Well here's some news. We're probably far more nuanced and balanced thinkers than the literalist, narrow minded, black versus white thinkers that inhabit your local RNC volunteer headquarters.

For instance, you and your bible banging tub thumping brethren have had no problems announcing boycotts of every company in the US that has supported gay rights.

Yet when finally the fairies turn it back on one of the fundamentalists, it is seen as an assault on their civil rights and they spend all their time boohooing about it on television.

And as I've said...you just keep eating and eating and eating and eating and eating at Chik-Fil-A. In fact, to prove a point to all the liberals, order some double fries with that sandwich. That'll show us.

But in the mean time, mail this back to Chik-Fil-A. Okay?

Dear Chik-Fil-A,

I understand that you fund organizations that are trying to prevent homo marriage.

While I disagree with your position, I respect your right to do as you please & not get married to a same sex partner. While you may disagree with my choice to marry another man , I hope you respect my right to do as I wish.

Now that would be real tolerance.

Signed,

Your best customer,

Jayqueer.

 

[JayQueer]

You just don't get anything do you?

You can't even understand the double meaning of what I wrote.

It is Amerika. Americans define their success by others' failure. It is the conservative capitalist ethos.

No. Americans define ourselves by our own success on OUR own merits. Our society is based on capitalistic ideals. I'm sorry if you don't like that. If you would prefer to live in socialism, perhaps you would like it more in China, North Korea, or Cuba.

It is exactly what Chik-Fil-A is doing by supporting the fight against homo marriage.

No it is not.

Religious conservatives feel that they only will succeed if they ensure that others' aspirations and attempts to obtain their civil rights fail. Their private faith and beliefs are not enough for them. They are like the taliban or Iran's theocratic rulers. They can only be happy if they are in control of everyone's behaviour.

How is that different than what California Democrats did in passing SB 048 ("The Gay History Bill")? They want all public schools in California to not only include a discussion of homosexuality in the curriculum (which is fine), but they want to PREVENT any critical comments or views of homosexuality from being expressed. What about students or teachers who have a religious opposition to homosexuality? As much as I disagree with anti-gay people's opinions, I do realize that they have a right to their views. That is what free speech is all about. You can't only allow pro-gay opinions or statements in a public school classroom, and block the critical ones.

You've made it crystal clear in your other recent thread that got vapourized that you don't have a fucking clue what liberals are or how they think.

I probably know more than you think.

Well here's some news. We're probably far more nuanced and balanced thinkers than the literalist, narrow minded, black versus white thinkers that inhabit your local RNC volunteer headquarters.

I have personally found Republicans & American conservatives to be more tolerant than liberals. A Republican or conservative will politely disagree with you. If you don't agree with a liberal, he or she will often call you a "bigot", "homophobe", "sexist", "male pig", "Islamophobe," "xenophobe," etc.

For instance, you and your bible banging tub thumping brethren have had no problems announcing boycotts of every company in the US that has supported gay rights.

When have I boycotted (or supported boycotting) pro-gay companies? Never. The American Family Association has had a long-standing boycott against Home Depot for their domestic partner policies for employees. Yet, I just shopped there last week for some supplies I needed.

And as I've said...you just keep eating and eating and eating and eating and eating at Chik-Fil-A. In fact, to prove a point to all the liberals, order some double fries with that sandwich. That'll show us.

They're called "waffle fries," honey.............And Chick-fil-A waffle fries are really good

P.S. Why do you spell words as "vapourized" and "behaviour"? That's how British, Canadians, and Australians spell those words. No American spells like that. Americans spell those words as "vaporized" and "behavior."

Me thinks you are not even American at all -- getting worked up about American politics, and American restaurants like Chick-fil-A.

And I'm the one who gets called a "troll".......by foreigners.

 

[rareboy]

It is called an Oxford dictionary.

You might want to pick one up.

And what makes you think that someone may not be either a citizen or someone with a vested interest in the affairs of more than one country...or a gated neighbourhood in southern California?

Hopefully you'll pass along the letter to your Chik'n overlords.

 

[fetaby]

They want all public schools in California to not only include a discussion of homosexuality in the curriculum (which is fine), but they want to PREVENT any critical comments or views of homosexuality from being expressed. What about students or teachers who have a religious opposition to homosexuality? As much as I disagree with anti-gay people's opinions, I do realize that they have a right to their views. That is what free speech is all about. You can't only allow pro-gay opinions or statements in a public school classroom, and block the critical ones.

No, you're not a troll. You're just horribly misinformed.

So while you have the chance, just what exactly are the "critical comments or views of homosexuality"? And when you list them, you best make damn sure they are accurate and factual.

And what about religious opposition? We are also free in this country to worship whichever religion we choose. A religion that opposes homosexuality has no more rights than one that doesn't or people who prescribe to no religion at all. So how is it that "some" religious people should be able to preach their views as FACT when that is not the case.

Pull your head out of your ass long enough to smell the roses and you'd see that the religious right are indeed guilty of trying to CONTOL people into living the way they believe people ought to live. And by that notion, you and I aren't really people anyway, we're sinners awaiting our day in their "clinics".

 

[MoltenRock III]

No. Americans define ourselves by our own success on OUR own merits.

Really? You continually define yourself by the success of your parents and grandparents, as you've accomplished nothing. Zip. Zero. Nadda. Nothing. You haven't bought a car on your own, or a house, or held a full-time longterm career position. Hell, you're 26 now(?) and haven't even gotten a BS/BA degree. Nor held your own health insurance policy. You've gnashed your teeth, and wailed loudly that your parents were going to ship you back to India. You still call yourself a "virgin", with your only sexual experience that you've shared, as being one who blew some married, white dad, driving you home from babysitting his spawn. You don't work, nor pay for your own schooling still.

So again, please tell me, how exactly do you "define" yourself from your own "success"?

P.S. Why do you spell words as "vapourized" and "behaviour"? That's how British, Canadians, and Australians spell those words. No American spells like that. Americans spell those words as "vaporized" and "behavior."

Um..... because, he's a radical Canuckistani. Anyone who's spent more than 11 1/2 minutes on this site knows he's Canadian. You do realize that there are countries outside of your Amerika that actually speak "English", and have been for much longer than the USA.... like, oh.... say..... INDIA perhaps.

 

[scream4ever]

"If you would prefer to live in socialism, perhaps you would like it more in China, North Korea, or Cuba."

And those are Communist nations, not socialist ones. Big difference.

"What about students or teachers who have a religious opposition to homosexuality?"

Public vs. Private school and separation of church and state. Anyone can believe what they want. It's what one does with said beliefs that can be wrong.

"I probably know more than you think."

So you say.

"I have personally found Republicans & American conservatives to be more tolerant than liberals. A Republican or conservative will politely disagree with you. If you don't agree with a liberal, he or she will often call you a "bigot", "homophobe", "sexist", "male pig", "Islamophobe," "xenophobe," etc."

The right is plenty intolerant, trust me. The only difference is they express it in covert, indirect ways, such as anti-gay legislation. They say they are tolerant of our side, yet they also try to pass laws so that our side won't even exist. I respects liberals more in that sense because we'll just tell you the truth about what/who you are.

 

[rareboy]

And Jayqueer wrote:

How is that different than what California Democrats did in passing SB 048 ("The Gay History Bill")? They want all public schools in California to not only include a discussion of homosexuality in the curriculum (which is fine), but they want to PREVENT any critical comments or views of homosexuality from being expressed. What about students or teachers who have a religious opposition to homosexuality? As much as I disagree with anti-gay people's opinions, I do realize that they have a right to their views. That is what free speech is all about. You can't only allow pro-gay opinions or statements in a public school classroom, and block the critical ones.

Crap.

There are a lot of people who hate blacks and are still opposed to desegregation. We wouldn't allow them the platform in our schools to spew race hatred.

There are a lot of people who hate foreigners from India.
We wouldn't allow them the platform in our schools to spread xenophobia and race hatred.

There are a lot of christians who hate Islam and Hindus. We wouldn't allow them a platform in our schools to spread religious intolerance.

In every case, the 'free speech' bullshit argument demands that we must allow groups to preach intolerance and hate in our schools.

I may have a religious opposition to a great many things. It does not mean that I have the right to take my narrow view of the world as defined by my fundamentalist religion and preach any goddamned place that I want to. Particularly if my religion marginalizes any other human being on the planet or deprives them of even a single right that others enjoy.

Every time that you write some nonsense like this, you cross over that line of credibility. Again and again and again and again, you make arguments that are not logically consistent with those that an out, proud gay male would make.

In fact, from the outset, your arguments and statements on this issue have been absurd and jarringly homophobic. Although I see that you now think it is 'fine' to include discussion of homosexuality in the curriculum, you still seem to think that it is 'fine' for people to express their intolerance for homosexuality based on their religious precepts.

Why is that, we all wonder.

 

[jackoroe]

The concept of free speech includes speech which many consider hate speech. It's protected in countries like the US. I know Canada has laws against what they consider hate speech. It's better to allow fools to spew hatred unfettered and let people see it for what it is.

But I digress. We've gotten so far afield from the topic of this thread, it's time to shut it down.