Christians vs business freedom to not discriminate

[mikemizanin729]

Double post.

 

[mikemizanin729]

You're talking about a cake and the possibility of another cake.

I'll be surprised the coverstaion didn't turn into something about a burger.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Anybody ( poor) can save up for a Dunhill shirt but what you fail to realise is that you will never be accepted by them only tolerated.

What insult? You choose to block the truth out like many puppets to society, its there you're just in denial of it.You choose to take it as an insult because the truth hurts.

...What the hell makes you think acceptance is what's being argued for? No one but you (and possibly Grimshaw) thinks equality means a smile and a hug.

Equality doesn't mean likability. It doesn't mean a warm hug and "You're Family, No Really." while someone else winks, nods, and tips a fiver in your pocket just for being part of the in-crowd. Equality means anyone has the opportunity given to them if they meet the criteria needed for whatever-it-is, blah blah blah. It has absolutely everything to do with the ability to buy a baked good and nothing to do with whether someone likes a poor person wearing an expensive jacket. The couple wasn't asking for a warm hug - they asked for a cake. Liking the customer should have nothing to do with selling a product. In most sane societies, it doesn't.

It might surprise you, but not everyone goes into a shop expecting to be bosom buddies because they own the shirt the salesperson is wearing. Christ.

Something else I suspect you might be unfamiliar with - if you can look the part and act the part, you also get into the group to build the connections not automatically given. Acceptance is based in a large part on familiarity. Which I'm unfortunately going to have to cultivate soon enough - hello the eventuality of law school. Ugh. Anyway,

As for your blind comment; No. The truth doesn't tend to hurt unless you let the nasty things be. You'll either learn eventually or....not. Something tells me it might be a while on that score. "It hurts so I must be right!" is a foolish person's reasoning.

I explained in the shortest, clearest manner I'm currently capable of - since you still either don't understand the point or are willfully missing the point, I'll give benefit of the doubt and suggest that you go Google about disabled culture and specifically about adage use and misrepresenting the reality of disability itself.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Discrmination is everywhere you go.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Katy Perry isn't particularly a very good singer.

This woman isn't particularly a very good singer.

One lives at home in her parents house while the other is a Hollywood millionaire.




Can you see the discrimination.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Discrmination is everywhere you go.

Yep! The capitalist system is based on it.

 

[Kulindahr]

...What the hell makes you think acceptance is what's being argued for? No one but you (and possibly Grimshaw) thinks equality means a smile and a hug.

Equality doesn't mean likability. It doesn't mean a warm hug and "You're Family, No Really." while someone else winks, nods, and tips a fiver in your pocket just for being part of the in-crowd. Equality means anyone has the opportunity given to them if they meet the criteria needed for whatever-it-is, blah blah blah. It has absolutely everything to do with the ability to buy a baked good and nothing to do with whether someone likes a poor person wearing an expensive jacket. The couple wasn't asking for a warm hug - they asked for a cake. Liking the customer should have nothing to do with selling a product. In most sane societies, it doesn't.

It might surprise you, but not everyone goes into a shop expecting to be bosom buddies because they own the shirt the salesperson is wearing. Christ.

Something else I suspect you might be unfamiliar with - if you can look the part and act the part, you also get into the group to build the connections not automatically given. Acceptance is based in a large part on familiarity. Which I'm unfortunately going to have to cultivate soon enough - hello the eventuality of law school. Ugh. Anyway,

As for your blind comment; No. The truth doesn't tend to hurt unless you let the nasty things be. You'll either learn eventually or....not. Something tells me it might be a while on that score. "It hurts so I must be right!" is a foolish person's reasoning.

I explained in the shortest, clearest manner I'm currently capable of - since you still either don't understand the point or are willfully missing the point, I'll give benefit of the doubt and suggest that you go Google about disabled culture and specifically about adage use and misrepresenting the reality of disability itself.

Lucky, they don't care. They've fallen in love with their little fallacy, and that's that.

 

[mikemizanin729]

^^ I would try with you, but as you twisted everything (and somehow find racism to be relevant here) I simply won't bother.

You live day by day lying to yourself so go ahead.

 

[pat grimshaw]

^ I bet our American capitalist friends discriminate between a Ruger and a Beretta.

 

[mikemizanin729]

He discriminates when guns are involved.

 

[luckynumbah7]

@Kuhlindahr,

Yeah, I know, but sometimes y'just end up responding anyways. Tbh, they misused the definition of acceptance, so my first sentence wasn't actually correct for the situation. Most people these days use acceptance as a synonym for likability, which really isn't what it means. Damn colloquial meanings.

 

[mikemizanin729]

A lot of people misuse that definition of acceptance here (Bisexual thread) but we don't.

Telling the truth is what's important.

 

[Kulindahr]

@Kuhlindahr,

Yeah, I know, but sometimes y'just end up responding anyways. Tbh, they misused the definition of acceptance, so my first sentence wasn't actually correct for the situation. Most people these days use acceptance as a synonym for likability, which really isn't what it means. Damn colloquial meanings.

They'd find a different meaning for it and insist that made it all good, anyway -- like a fallacy ever helped.

 

[mikemizanin729]

^^ Like a gun ever helped America.

 

[luckynumbah7]

@Mike,

You do know people can (and do) check the accuracy of your information themselves, right? I have the oddest feeling most people like to forget that in convenient moments.

In other words, go spelunk in at least two disparate dictionaries (one general-historic, one common usage) for a while instead of mocking gifs of fat people while pretending that strategy is a sound argument. Bound to do you loads of good in the long run. Hell, on the off-chance that you don't retain any factual information from the excursion at least we'd get a break from your gifs. It's a win-win situation!

 

[mikemizanin729]

What gif's?

 

[mikemizanin729]

Rosie O' Donnell won't be on the cover of Maxim Magazine but Kate Moss could be.

It is discrimination..

 

[pat grimshaw]

...It is discrimination..

It is capitalism.

 

[rareboy]

Oh God Grimshaw.

Are you still prattling on like anyone cares what you think about this topic?

And discrimination based on race, creed, colour or sexuality is not capitalism. It is just prejudicial discrimination that has no place in a civilized society. You are still trying to justify your own discrimination against others using this case as a proxy.

 

[Kulindahr]

Oh God Grimshaw.

Are you still prattling on like anyone cares what you think about this topic?

And discrimination based on race, creed, colour or sexuality is not capitalism. It is just prejudicial discrimination that has no place in a civilized society. You are still trying to justify your own discrimination against others using this case as a proxy.

He and his crony here are demonstrations of why we can't have a society without anti-discrimination laws yet.