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Corbin Fisher: TJ finally goes M2M.

Logan is a card. Anything comes out of that boy's mouth, and it's usually funny. This is one of CF's best in a while.

Yeah, I'll bet Logan's a hoot to hang out with. And his voice is funny, too. I wonder if CF told him to use that 'supple' line.

I only wish that I knew more about him, where he went to school, etc. Both he and Dawson seem like they might actually be enrolled as full time students in decent colleges. Logan reminds me of one of my frat brothers at (elite small New England liberal arts college).

The others . . . a community college class here and there, a McJob to pay for the gym . . . I think both Lucas and Cade said that they were studying 'criminal justice' or 'law enforcement'

I wonder if Logan's ROTC: he's got the military cut, and he had that 'ARMY' shirt on a couple of videos back.
 
Logan is so darn gay in this one. At one point he tells TJ that "your skin is so supple."

I used to think that about Logan, too. Now I don't even think he's bisexual -- just highly sexed. Priapic even :) I realize I am engaging in egregious stereotyping but Logan doesn't act 'gay': he acts goofy (which is why he's so damn sexy). In fact, I got a much stronger reading on my gaydar from TJ, whose voice and mannerisms seem a tad delicate, affected even.

Brent for sure, also Cade, and even Dawson seem more 'gay' than Logan.

The outtake was kind of surprising in that it lifts the curtain more than you'd think CF would want.

I like the outtakes. They're humorous, and show the guys with their hair down. From a marketing point of view, I think they are added to reinforce the perception -- or perhaps the illusion -- that the models are really straight and have to do a fair amount of whacking off to to pussy porn to stay hard. Indeed, perhaps the 'outtakes' are more staged than the actual footage.

In the movie, Logan slides a rubber on TJ and gracefully sits down on his cock. But in the outtakes, we see that TJ has trouble getting hard (nerves?) and that good old Corbin is getting kind of annoyed with him because of it. It takes him quite a while of jerking himself to get to the degree of hardness necessary to open Logan up for the first time.

Obviously. These 20 minute movies take several hours to shoot, and not even the most oversexed 18 year old can't maintain his erection for that long: 'erections lasting more than 4 hours . . . ' as the cialis ad says. Hell, I'll bet even Brent Everett uses a fluffer!

We also get a pretty gross shot of Logan's stretched-out-from-taking-a-good-pounding hole.

Holes get opened up as you get fucked. Logan's hole will never be gross to me! And what I really like about Logan is that he doesn't shave. I love his fuzzy butt :)
 
Brent for sure, also Cade, and even Dawson seem more 'gay' than Logan.

I have to agree with you about Brent and Dawson, they seem most likely to eventually change their status. And Ryan seems to be like Logan too, not gay but still able to enjoy sex with a guy (especially the firsky gay guys like Carter and Patrick.)

The only person who turns me off is Lucas. Gay or Straight, since he's come back from his little mystery disappearance (some said he had retired), his acting has really gone downhill! One video he was in, Dawson said something to him before they went to kiss and Lucas pulled away and groaned "why you gotta talk to me?" while laughing in his face. Since then he makes my dick go limp... [-X
 
I have to agree with you about Brent and Dawson, they seem most likely to eventually change their status.

Brent has always seemed like the second cumming of Mason Wyler. I think Cade is more likely to switch than Dawson. He seems like one of those jocks who isn't very self aware, and probably comes from a pretty repressed Boston Irish background. You watch him perform, and you get a sense that he's really enjoying sex for the first time.

Dawson, on the other hand, has always struck me as a bisexual opportunist. In a lot of ways, he reminds me of Keanu Reeves 'Prince Hal' character in 'My Own Private Idaho'. He has an anti-hero character about him that Thackaray would have appreciated.

And Ryan seems to be like Logan too, not gay but still able to enjoy sex with a guy (especially the firsky gay guys like Carter and Patrick.)

It struck me in Ryan's last outing that it is entirely possible to be primarily heterosexual, and still enjoy getting poked up the butt. For those of us who enjoy it, it is an intesely pleasurable experience; and as i know plenty of homos for whom receptive anal sex is just a pain in the ass, I don't think the ability to enjoy anal stimulation necessarily correlates with sexuality. Ryan and Logan had better find girlfriends who are comfortable with a strap-on:sex:

The only person who turns me off is Lucas. Gay or Straight, since he's come back from his little mystery disappearance (some said he had retired), his acting has really gone downhill! One video he was in, Dawson said something to him before they went to kiss and Lucas pulled away and groaned "why you gotta talk to me?" while laughing in his face. Since then he makes my dick go limp... [-X

I think Lucas is intensely handsome, and I've always found his off-handed goofyness sexy as hell. But I think you are correct in observing that he hasn't seemed to be enjoying himself much lately. His pain when getting topped by Dawson was pretty apparent. I don't know if he's disgusted with himself for doing something so against his nature for money, or if he's afraid that he's actually coming to enjoy it more than he thought. He seems to be wrestling with something.

I think it would be both really hot, and realistic, if, as in the case of the Dawson-Lucas video, if they stopped the painful fucking and got each other off by mutual JO. It would have been so hot to hear Dawson say 'buddy, I don't want to hurt you . . . " After all, sex is about making each other feel good :)
 
I agree about the mutal JO. Remember when Dawson and Logan did the "Contest" video? It was about getting each other off and had fun doing it.

Also I agree with you on an earlier post about feeling the CF site is like family.
I really enjoy the fact that Logan, Dawson, and Lucas have been on CF for quite some time and they make you feel like you want to know more about each of them. I wish CF would from time to time update what is going on with each of the guys, that is as much as he can without revealing their true identity. Although SC has had some good looking guys receantly, CF is a different site, where the guys do know each other and interact as well.

This weeks JO video of Ben and Logan, and the first two TJ and Logan videos are evidence of the next two guys who appear to be fun to watch on CF in the months ahead.
 
I agree about the mutal JO. Remember when Dawson and Logan did the "Contest" video? It was about getting each other off and had fun doing it.

I'd like to see a mutual JO/BJ session with lots of affection and kissing, just like it plays out in reality, when fucking hurts too much.

I wish CF would from time to time update what is going on with each of the guys, that is as much as he can without revealing their true identity.

I know. I feel involved with them, which is why i keep renewing my subscription every couple of months. I understand that sometimes payment for the core models sometimes takes the form of tuition. If so, this is great! I like to think of Logan, Dawson, etc. persuing meaningful degrees. Perhaps it will be the same with TJ

Although SC has had some good looking guys receantly, CF is a different site, where the guys do know each other and interact as well.

As I said in many earlier posts, there was a real 'family' feel to SC back in the 'heady' days of Zack, Adam, Dylan, and Trevor. Although it may have been a fabrication, we were told that Zack was a swimmer, was in college, had gone abroad to study, etc, all of which enhanced his allure. That spirit was revived briefly with 'Connor', who probably would have been a better fit at CF.

This weeks JO video of Ben and Logan, and the first two TJ and Logan videos are evidence of the next two guys who appear to be fun to watch on CF in the months ahead.

Well, I for one am glad to see that Logan's getting a lot more air time*|* In many ways he's my favorite model because he's just so much fun: the way he pronounced 'frottage' made me LOL! I haven't figured out if he's a bright goofball or a total airhead. He reminds me of some guys I've known and, trust me, they were no dummies.

Ben's a much better looking version of Dirk. He doesn't look like he was raised in a trailer. I expect that both he and TJ are going to become regulars.

I'd like to see some more of Patrick, though I expect the work for a gay top at CF is limited:(
 
I can't believe people are having problems wondering if these guys are gay or not!!! I mean what straight guy do you know that will lick another guys ass??

They are all gay!

I used to think the same way, too. But now I'm more inclined to think that you can get a guy to do anything, given the right in$entive.

BTW, I know plenty of guys who avidly rim their GFs. I think rimming is a less gay exclusive act than blowing. Honestly, I think the gayest thing that the boys on CF do is kissing.
 
I would think Logan is more of a "Bright Goofball". Don't think CF would of kept him around as long as he has if he were a total airhead. He's been one of my favorites for sometime now. He sure knows how to use that tongue of is though:p

First time I saw Ben I thought the same. A real hottie! CF has been grooming some hot guys. The Freshmen class is very promising.

Might have to find Patrick over at BF.
 
I think rimming your girlfriend is a bit different from rimming some guy.
 
I think rimming your girlfriend is a bit different from rimming some guy.

anatomically they are identical. and when you are rimming, you don't necessarily have a dick in your face to remind you that you are with a dude. so in some sense it may actually be easier for a straight guy to to this to another guy.

i think it's amazing that they can get these guys to do it at all. it's rarely on the menu for me.
 
I would think Logan is more of a "Bright Goofball". Don't think CF would of kept him around as long as he has if he were a total airhead. He's been one of my favorites for sometime now. He sure knows how to use that tongue of is though:p

Both Logan and Dawson, the two who I think have a bit more on the ball, have apparently requested to have more administrative/production responsibilities. In that regard, they are sort of like Johan Paulik

Might have to find Patrick over at BF.

I can find Andy at Club Cafe and Machine. A very nice guy, and even better looking in person :)
 
Phunk: You're drinking too much Kool-Aid bro.

It's all fiction. None of these guys are what CF or SC says they are. The scenes are all staged and the bios are written to enhance the appeal - they have no basis in reality.
So... your character analyses of these guys are based on who CF says they are- not who they are. And if you want to see how much Kool-Aid you've drunk, you actually referenced Dawson and WM Thackeray together in a sentence.

You all realize that there are a lot easier ways to make the not-very-large amounts of money these guys make for the videos. And that there's a big difference between doing it once in desperation and coming back time and again.

CF's "Deans List" guys all have two things in common: they're very good actors with some presence in front of the camera. And they're exhibitionists, who enjoy having other people watch them have sex. That's about all you can realistically deduce from that site.
 
you actually referenced Dawson and WM Thackeray together in a sentence.

All I meant to imply was that he impresses me as an opportunist, a la Becky Sharp. I'm a well read guy, and 'Vanity Fair' was the first point of reference that popped into my head. Perhaps 'Barry Lyndon' might be nearer the mark.

You all realize that there are a lot easier ways to make the not-very-large amounts of money these guys make for the videos.

I understand that the pay isn't chicken shit, by any means.

CF's "Deans List" guys all have two things in common: they're very good actors

Precisely!

I think what you are doing is what I did at first: engaging in a lot of projection/wish fullfilment. I used to think that any guy who did all the stuff that these guys do would have to be at least bi. I also used to think that, like me, everybody who was gay knew so since at least early adolescence. I have since come to understand that the latter supposition is anything but the case, making the former a faulty assumption, too.

I am having an increasingly hard time with labels like 'gay' or 'bi', or, for that matter 'staight'. They are useful tools, but I certainly don't think that they should be taken as irrevocable or absolute. I think that people are merely sexual at baseline. One need only look at prisons or the military to appreciate the extent to which sexuality is capable of adapting itself to the prevailing social milieu.

At 18-22, these guys are by definition oversexed. Hell, even a grapefruit would look good to them under the right circumstances. And in late adolescence, the age cohort to which I believe the Corbin Fisher models belong, for many sexuality isn't yet written in stone. So if somebody comes along and offers you a significant sum to play with a guy on camera, why not? Hell, it beats flippin' burgers!

I would go so far as to suggest that the degree to which these guys do EVERYTHING only reinforces their primary heterosexuality. They willingly do things which I would think twice about, because as a gay man I attach a varying levels of significance to different intimate acts. To these guys, kissing, sucking, rimming, fucking are all pretty much of a piece: the acts themselves don't really mean anything to them.

Now I'm sure there is definitely a subset of models who are 'curious', and who come from rural or repressive backgrounds where 'exploring' isn't simply a question of getting on the Metro North and going down to Chelsea, as it was for me. So they seek out CF and SC; and the paycheck provides them with a nice rationalization. I suspect that 'TJ', 'Brent' and possibly 'Cade' fall into this category.

However, I think most of them are straight as advertised. Once the cameras are off, and they are back in a milieu with available women, they don't give man sex a second thought.

Yeah, I'd like to think that Logan will end up playing for our team. He's totally my type, etc. But all his sucking and rimming and assfucking and cum-guzzling notwithstanding, I suspect when the cameras are off he's really into chicks:(
 
Phunk: There's no wishing anything.

I am sure that many of these guys self-identify as straight. I mean think of how many gay guys were convinced they were straight and "going through a phase" at that age. Ditto all the married guys on Craigs List.

But you don't become a gay porn star just because the idea of tending bar or waitering doesn't appeal to you. You do it because something about sucking a dick appeals to you and maybe you like to say it's because your getting paid for it.

I'm sure that many of these guys are able to compartmentalize what they do on camera from what they do in real life. But the fact remains that most good-looking broke straight 19 year olds do not get fucked on camera by a dozen guys over a the course of a year.
Unless there's something else going on.

The acts don't mean anything to them? Dude the acts don't mean anything to straight porn stars either. It's mechanical and its a long day and it's what the director told you to do. There's no emotion there.

And as for Dawson-- you can accurately say that CORBIN FISHER has cast him as a Barry Lydon-esque opportunist. But as for who the actor playing Dawson really is-- that's something we'll never know.

These guys are all exhibitionists and I suspect the idea of being a movie star, even if it's just a porn movie star, is the greatest turn-on of all to them. But for you to try and figure out which ones are really straight and which ones are really gay based solely on the roles that CF or SC assigns to them, if futile.
 
Just ever so slightly lol

I don't really think so: rimming a guy vs. rimming a chick. One of my favorite hetero porn flicks is something called 'The Hindlick Manuveur'. It's a hoot: we watched it at my college frat house.
 
But you don't become a gay porn star just because the idea of tending bar or waitering doesn't appeal to you. You do it because something about sucking a dick appeals to you and maybe you like to say it's because your getting paid for it.

All I can say is that they get paid extremely well, especially if they bottom. We're talking enough to take care of tuition and expenses.

But the fact remains that most good-looking broke straight 19 year olds do not get fucked on camera by a dozen guys over a the course of a year. Unless there's something else going on.

I'm telling you, the Logans and Dawsons and Lucases and Ryans and SC's Zack and Dylan get paid a shitlload of money. Apparently the gay models get paid less, since they are presumably enjoying themselves.

The acts don't mean anything to them? Dude the acts don't mean anything to straight porn stars either. It's mechanical and its a long day and it's what the director told you to do. There's no emotion there.

If it's meaningless and mechanical, why not allow yourself to get fucked by ten guys, if the money's good. The only 'something else' going on is economic incentive.

And as for Dawson-- you can accurately say that CORBIN FISHER has cast him as a Barry Lydon-esque opportunist. But as for who the actor playing Dawson really is-- that's something we'll never know.

I think you are over estimating the acting abilities of these guys. By and large we are not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed. Dawson may be an exception.

Incidently, 'Jesse' says in his myspace blog that Dawson was so pathetically 'straight' that it took him about 20 minutes of post-fuck wanking to cum (which explains why Brent had sufficient refractory time to have a second go at Jesse).

These guys are all exhibitionists and I suspect the idea of being a movie star, even if it's just a porn movie star, is the greatest turn-on of all to them. But for you to try and figure out which ones are really straight and which ones are really gay based solely on the roles that CF or SC assigns to them, if futile.

I think any exhibitionist tendencies would be more than balanced out by the idea that somebody they know might see them. That's where the money rationalization factor comes into play.
 
So... your character analyses of these guys are based on who CF says they are- not who they are.

For the record, I didn't think that either Mason Wyler or Damon Phoenix were 'straight studs' from the get go. Though I do believe they likely misrepresented themselves to Corbin Fisher as such for a bigger paycheck.

The way Mason says that he's going to have a 'coronary' after fucking Logan: what a drama queen!'

Trust me, nobody has wanted to believe that Logan and Dawson are gay as much as this homo. I just don't think it's the case; and that comes from watching them, not from reading their blurbs.
 
However, I think most of them are straight as advertised. Once the cameras are off, and they are back in a milieu with available women, they don't give man sex a second thought.

Yeah, I'd like to think that Logan will end up playing for our team. He's totally my type, etc. But all his sucking and rimming and assfucking and cum-guzzling notwithstanding, I suspect when the cameras are off he's really into chicks:([/quote]

Phunk I like you buddie but i've got to agree with UWSMike on this one. These guys are in no way straight. Not never not now. The money is just an excuse to do what they already wanted to do in the first place. I knew plenty of horny straight teens growining up and none of them would even consider having gay sex for all the world to see for, what? 1000 buck? That's chicken shit money. There's even less incentive in this information age we live in where the minute you do something it's available on the Internet for millions to see all over the world forever. There are guys who filmed on scene decades ago in the 70's and 80's who thought there scene was gone forever only to see it available for download on some file sharing site.

Plus we know CF lies in his bio's look at Mason and Damon. Two extremely gay ho-mo-sex-uals, from the beginging. but on Corbins site he had this whole straight bio posted about them. As a matter of fact I think Mason was pissed off at CF for portraying him as straight if i'm not mistaken.
 
Hey Phunk: Where is Jesse's MySpace page. I'd be curious to see that.

And Aloe's dead on. I think you're exaggerating the money. I mean even if they get $10K to bottom- hell, $30K for the first time--- that's not a lot of money if you know that everyone you know is going to be able to see you taking it up the ass. Including all future employers and spouses. That's just not something most guys are willing to do. Even for straight porn. (Are you guessing at the amount they get paid or do you know for sure? And if so, how?)

It's marketing and illusion and they've got you biting. As I said, a lot of these guys don't know what they are yet. A lot of guys never do. But there's a reason old Logan's jerking his dick and cumming while TJ fucks him and not tending bar. And it's not just because he's horny.

Truth is, if the money were the only reason, they'd all be following Mason's lead and going to work for Stallion or whoever.
 
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