Corbin Fisher: TJ finally goes M2M.

[PhunkSpunk]

I knew plenty of horny straight teens growining up and none of them would even consider having gay sex for all the world to see for, what? 1000 buck? That's chicken shit money.

While I don't have an exact figure, I know that the core 'straight studs' get paid quite a bit more than $1000/scene. I wouldn't be surprised if Logan picks up 5x that every time he gets his ass poked. Some poster on here said that they also provide financial advice, hold money in trust, that payments often take the form of tuition, that the models have to be in good academic standing, can't miss classes for shoots, etc. In short, CF takes care of his core group very nicely.

I think Sean Cody had a similar arrangement with 'Zack'.

Plus we know CF lies in his bio's look at Mason and Damon. Two extremely gay ho-mo-sex-uals, from the beginging. but on Corbins site he had this whole straight bio posted about them. As a matter of fact I think Mason was pissed off at CF for portraying him as straight if i'm not mistaken.

Given the differential pay scale for gay and straight models (not good), it is very likely that both Mason and Damon misrepresented themselves to CF for a bigger paycheck. While both have always struck me as being extremely gay, I don't know how they presented themselves to CF. Perhaps they were very good at being butch, or perhaps CF let them slide based on their looks.

For the record, Damon Phoenix believes that his CF career was cut short because too many viewers complained about him being 'femme'. Hell, I think TJ is at least as 'femme' as Damon!

 

[UWSMike]

Phunk- you're a smart guy. You know that no guy is going to get fucked up the ass for $5K. On camera. For the whole world to see. Not unless he was living on the streets.

Where do you get all your inside info from?

And what's up with CF cleaning up his previews and making them all PG-rated?

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Hey Phunk: Where is Jesse's MySpace page. I'd be curious to see that.

His real name is Santana something. He lives in Kentucky or Tennessee. I'm not a myspace member, so I don't have him on a buddy list or anything. He's auditioning for Chi Chi La Rue.

I mean even if they get $10K to bottom- hell, $30K for the first time--- that's not a lot of money if you know that everyone you know is going to be able to see you taking it up the ass. Including all future employers and spouses.

Yeah, that crossed my mind, too. But then that always begs the question 'what were you doing looking at that site?' I mean, if your frat bro caught you on Sean Cody then he was obviously looking at it, more than likely out of prurient interest.

Also, these are young guys, most not the sharpest tools in the shed, and the promise of decent money often trumps good judgement. And while they are all clean and sober on the set (in fact, I believe they are subjected to pre-shoot tox screens for drugs as part of their med work up), who knows what they do when they are away.

It's marketing and illusion and they've got you biting. As I said, a lot of these guys don't know what they are yet. A lot of guys never do. But there's a reason old Logan's jerking his dick and cumming while TJ fucks him and not tending bar. And it's not just because he's horny.

It's funny. I didn't think Logan was enjoying himself quite so much as he has in past bottoming experiences. In fact, his dick seemed flaccid while he was getting fucked.

I think I may have said this in an earlier post here, but Ryan's encounter with Caleb made me think that it is entirely possible to enjoy receptive anal sex and be primarily hetero. I know plenty of homos for whom anal sex is little more than a pain in the ass.

Hey Phunk: Where is Jesse's MySpace page. I'd be curious to see that.

His real name is Santana something. He lives in Kentucky or Tennessee. I'm not a myspace member, so I don't have him on a buddy list or anything. He's auditioning for Chi Chi La Rue.

I mean even if they get $10K to bottom- hell, $30K for the first time--- that's not a lot of money if you know that everyone you know is going to be able to see you taking it up the ass. Including all future employers and spouses.

Yeah, that crossed my mind, too. But then that always begs the question 'what were you doing looking at that site?' I mean, if your frat bro caught you on Sean Cody then he was obviously looking at it, more than likely out of prurient interest.

Also, these are young guys, most not the sharpest tools in the shed, and the promise of decent money often trumps good judgement. And while they are all clean and sober on the set (in fact, I believe they are subjected to pre-shoot tox screens for drugs as part of their med work up), who knows what they do when they are away.

Truth is, if the money were the only reason, they'd all be following Mason's lead and going to work for Stallion or whoever.

They actually like it when the gay models go off an seek greener pastures: it's good publicity for them. For the other guys -- well, it'd be pretty hard to maintain you are straight once you've stepped in front of Chi Chi La Rue's camera Also, I suspect the 'straight studs' are getting at least as well compensated by CF as they would be by Falcon or Titan.

 

[UWSMike]

Phunk: Maybe, just maybe, Logan wasn't as turned on by TJ as he has by some of these other guys? Or maybe he just wasn't in the mood.
It happens.
So does Viagra bro. And Cialis. Pornongraphers best friends.

"Why were you looking at it?" Phunk, Phunk, Phunk... it's not like gay people live in an alternate universe. All it takes is one homo to tell his sorority chick best friend that he just saw "Logan" from Sigma Chi taking it up the ass like a champ online. She tells his frat brothers and the rest is history. I mean damn, there was a guy on here not too long ago who was in a class with "straight" Kenny from Sean Cody You think he was going to keep that shit a secret if Kenny was really some big closet-case frat boy?

And these sites are popular. I'm sure gay guys in San Diego or wherever they are recognize Lucas when he's out at McDonalds or wherever.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Phunk- you're a smart guy. You know that no guy is going to get fucked up the ass for $5K. On camera. For the whole world to see. Not unless he was living on the streets.

Where do you get all your inside info from?

And what's up with CF cleaning up his previews and making them all PG-rated?

I have no real insider information. There's a guy on here who works for CF, who occasionally posts. Everything I know about the operation I have gotten from him, and it is available to you. I can't recall his name at present.

I know the going rates for 'scenes' in straight porn, and that a top Vivid model generally gets paid 5k if she has intercourse. Mainstream Gay porn pays somewhat less, because they have less of a market share. That information comes from the wonderful 'Going Down in the Valley' documentary series on HBO.

I'd be surprised if Mason cleared $10,000 for his recent Falcon gangbang ('SpokesIII). 'Getting fucked by 8 studs . . . priceless!'

I would assume that Corbin Fisher has made his previews less revealing because he doesn't want to give away too much for free. However, you can ask the man himself. He's extremely good about answering emails.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Phunk: Maybe, just maybe, Logan wasn't as turned on by TJ as he has by some of these other guys? Or maybe he just wasn't in the mood.
It happens. So does Viagra bro. And Cialis. Pornongraphers best friends.

I don't think Logan was dosed up, and neither was TJ, if you believe the outtakes.

"Why were you looking at it?" Phunk, Phunk, Phunk... it's not like gay people live in an alternate universe. All it takes is one homo to tell his sorority chick best friend that he just saw "Logan" from Sigma Chi taking it up the ass like a champ online. She tells his frat brothers and the rest is history. I mean damn, there was a guy on here not too long ago who was in a class with "straight" Kenny from Sean Cody You think he was going to keep that shit a secret if Kenny was really some big closet-case frat boy?

And these sites are popular. I'm sure gay guys in San Diego or wherever they are recognize Lucas when he's out at McDonalds or wherever.

Of all of them, Lucas is the one who I am almost certain is not gay! Like Jake Gyllenaal (sp?), he did if for the money!

Some woman in Fayetteville confronted a paratrooper she had seen on 'Active Duty'. 'How could you do it?' she asked. He replied. 'It was easy, I didn't give it much thought'.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

All it takes is one homo to tell his sorority chick best friend that he just saw "Logan" from Sigma Chi taking it up the ass like a champ online. She tells his frat brothers and the rest is history.

I've thought of all of that before, and it's definitely a Hobson's Choice between money and exposure. But seriously, you get flown down to Florida, wined and dined for a couple of days, get a $5-10,000 paycheck, all for taking it up the ass for a couple of hours. I dunno. A kid might just throw caution to the wind for a bit, especially it he's got tuition to pay, etc.

Another factor -- and this speaks to the above mentioned 'plastic' nature of sexuality, of late adolescent sexuality in particular -- is that these guys are all extremely good looking. Even if you are not primarily gay, a hot partner certainly makes playing a whole lot easier to stomach. I am reminded of that line from 'Hair': "I'm not gay, but I wouldn't throw Mick Jagger out of bed!" (of course, that involves recalling what ambisexual MJ looked like prancing around the stage in his capezios back in 'Gimme Shelter')

 

[dannybye]

Gay? or Straight ? Who Knows? The thing I find the hardest to believe is that any of these guy are going to College. None of them seem that bright to me. Maybe Community College or Tech. School but I seriously doubt any Major University Students in this group. Hehe

 

[Aloe]

Phunk you are way way off on the amount of money these guys make. I've been reading porn forums for awhile. Just go and check out Atkol. Gay porn stars make more than the guys in straight porn and most of them make between 800 and 1000 buck a scene. No where near $5k. No way no how! I promise you your figures are wrong. I've heard from to many pornstars both in readin and in e-mails and so forth.

 

[dannybye]

I agree with Aloe! With all the competing sites out there and the seemingly endless supply of fresh meat I doubt they get paid anyway near what your suggesting. I,m not a member of any site and from what I,ve read on this and other blogs no one seems to be steady members , and givin that the gay market is much smaller than the straight I don,t see how they could afford that kind of money. I,m supprised they are able to make any money at all. Just my thoughts.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

No where near $5k. No way no how! I promise you your figures are wrong. I've heard from to many pornstars both in readin and in e-mails and so forth.

It was not I, but USW Mike who suggested the 5 figure number. however, I don't think 5k is an unreasonable number for either Logan, Lucas, or Dawson, as they are definitely the 'anchor' models, who keep us coming back.

Perhaps TJ will become one of them, though I suspect it is at least as likely that he will follow Mason's green trail to Falcon -- and be VERY happy.

The other guys . . . they get to play with hot guys. Even Patrick, who is scorchingly hot himself -- his payment may very well have been the opportunity to fuck Ryan, and get fucked by Dawson.

Pretty boys, even ones who will suck dick and get their asses fucked, are a dime a dozen. What Corbin Fisher has done, which is so friggin' smart, is to create a 'cast of characters'. How many of us are wondering 'who's gonna bust TJs virgin hole?' I feel invested in his models in a way that I don't get from any other porn site. I mean, I wonder what Logan and Dawson are majoring in?

I've said this many times here, Sean Cody had the same kind of family spirit going back in the Zack and Dylan days. But these days there's no sense of continuity on that site. AJ just fucks whatever twink crosses his path.

 

[amwriter]

CF is the shit, but why has noone mentioned the hottest of all.....Gabe. And when is he going to continue his CF education like he said he would in the Dawson - Gabe video?

 

[PhunkSpunk]

CF is the shit, but why has noone mentioned the hottest of all.....Gabe. And when is he going to continue his CF education like he said he would in the Dawson - Gabe video?

I believe that 'Gabe' is working on being a legitimate physique model. I think he's been in 'Men's Fitness', or one of those magazines (which are the true heirs to the 'physical culture' soft core gay magazines of the 40s and 50s). At any rate, I suspect that he doesn't want to compromise this career by doing gay porn.

Personally, I don't think Gabe's the hottest CF model. Dawson is as least as hot As is TJ, the reason for this thread.

 

[dannybye]

I agree with you dude01234 logan seems to get less and less attractive with each video. I guess its just because we have seen him so much doing everything you could ever do with another guy. Not much he could do to shock us accept maybe a double penetration like jesse. Would like to see more of lucas. And I dont think we will see anymore of gabe. Just my thoughts!

 

[PhunkSpunk]

I agree with you dude01234 logan seems to get less and less attractive with each video. I guess its just because we have seen him so much doing everything you could ever do with another guy. Not much he could do to shock us accept maybe a double penetration like jesse. Would like to see more of lucas. And I dont think we will see anymore of gabe. Just my thoughts!

I demur, largely because Logan has a exudes personality and a great sense of humor These attributes enhance his hotness for me. His voice is at once kinda goofy and sexy as hell. Conversely TJ, hot as he may be, comes across as a wet rag. I really loved his long videos with Dawson, especially the pre-fuck banter in the pool between them. That comes across as real intimacy.

I will agree Logan has done just about everything, though on CF it's not as much a question of what they do but who they do it with. I mean, they all do everything: the hotness comes from watching the chemistry between the models unfold.

My fanstasy -- which will never happen -- would be for Logan and, say, Dawson, to admit that they are really into each other, dating, etc. Just hearing the admission would be totally hot. They wouldn't even have to take their clothes off. Just hold hands and smootch at the end like real boyfriends It would be an awesome way for them to exit CF. However, I really do think that Logan is primarily straight

 

[shotglass]

I gotta agree with PhunkSpunk. Logan's personality is what makes CorbinFisher so different from other sites. Like most, I've joined numerous other sites. But I keep coming back to CF because this site allows me to feel a part of what happens and to see the guys interact verbally, intimately, and sexually. I personally believe the Logan/Dawson videos are the hottest CF has ever produced. Like PS said the pool scenes were extremely intimate and to hear them talk about each others escapades made me feel like I was watching more than just a fuck video. Some may say these are scripted. Maybe to a degree or maybe not. The dialogue between these two guys seem genuine. Look at the second video they did. Logan took slow cautious measures before he actually started to fuck Dawson. Alot of foreplay between the guys, you just don't see that anywhere else. I'd like to believe that Dawson/Logan if nothing else, are at least very good buddies. If you want to see slam bam thank you mame sex, then CF is not for you. I for one am glad the way CF has evolved over the past year and a half. Although TJ may come across as, dare I say, stiff, I think it's more his youth and inexperience. Anyone can go back at look at others when they first appeared on CF. Dawson is truly the handsome jock next door you love to see with his shirt off outside cutting the grass. I enjoy the regulars (Logan,Dawson,Ryan,Lucas,Brent) as well as a blend of new guys(like TJ & Ben) and any other HOT jocks that CF can find to carry on the torch for new videos.

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Logan's personality is what makes CorbinFisher so different from other sites.

Lucas seems like a fun guy, too. Not as 'collegiate' as Logan. I love him at the end of the AJ/Blu Kennedy vid when he says "It was different . . . but i liked it" followed by a disarmingly goofy grin.

Some may say these are scripted. Maybe to a degree or maybe not. The dialogue between these two guys seem genuine. Look at the second video they did.

My guess is that they were given a general mis en scene and occasionally prompted. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't genuine. That stuff about the girlfriends, loosing the wallet in the cornfield, etc, is probably real.

I think the bright guys get the dialog. Logan and Dawson are obviously pretty sharp. I couldn't see Cade or Ryan being able to pull it off.

Logan took slow cautious measures before he actually started to fuck Dawson. Alot of foreplay between the guys, you just don't see that anywhere else.

I think 'Logan fucks Dawson' could be an instructional video, it is so good about the proper way to work up a bottom, especially since Logan isn't 'huge'. A five incher can hurt like hell, if your ass isn't properly prepared.

I'd like to believe that Dawson/Logan if nothing else, are at least very good buddies.

I hope so, too. But sometimes you get really weird about being confidential and friendly with some guy you just have sex with.

If you want to see slam bam thank you mame sex, then CF is not for you.

Corbin Fisher gives you that option, too. Look at the Cade and Brent videos. No chat here: they practically rip each other's clothes off. But then I suspect that is because these two prefer to play for our team, so it seems very genuine. I suspect very few takes were required for these videos

 

[jaxon29]

Last year there was a weekly half hour series on HBO about the porn industry. One week it focused on gay porn and they talked with Chi Chi Larue - out of costume and character - throughout the show. He said about 60% of the guys in gay porn are gay for pay heteros because it pays so much better than straight porn. So apparently there are a lot of straight guys doing gay porn and able to do the deed with another guy. I really would like to know the true psychological explanation of that.

I have been a fan of CF for a long time and don't know why people think Gabe is the hottest model on the site. He was okay, but to each his own. As many have said, Logan is a favorite because he acts so playful and even a bit goofey. Most of the guys don't come across as having any personality, and I like his comments as he interacts with the other models. He acts like a college age wild and crazy party guy would act.

I love Dawson when he cums. He closes his eyes and his mouth is half open, while he has those body spasms. He truly seems like he's in another world. At least once after he and the other model came, he said "You're a hot fuck". He's so sexy when he says things like that.

 

[Aloe]

I don't care what Chi Chi says. Straight guys don't do gay porn. Guys who claim to be straight do gayporn. Actions speak louder than words. And before anyone says something like "well might have sex with a girl for money" let me tell you that the stigma against being gay and having gay sex are so strong in our society that to compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[UWSMike]

There are all kinds of "gay sex" too.

Getting blown by a guy is something a straight guy might do for money.

But getting fucked up the ass and getting into it the way these guys do (cumming while the other dude's dick is deep inside them)--- no way.