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Curious... Is my friend too? - Discussion

Oh... info pours in.

The friend (from now on friend #2) sent me a text message forward. It was two naked guys holding up a towel with their boners and it said here's the towel rack you were looking for. I found it funny as did all my other friends I sent it to except one... (this guy with be friend #3) He got hardcore homophobic. So I concluded he isn't comfortable with his sexuality. I mean when you're homophobic about something like that there is something being hidden.

I told friend #2 about this and he agreed and continued to tell me things about #3 from when they were friends (#2 is no longer friends with #3... its pretty much the same situation as it is with my main friend.) I guess #3 loved being naked in front of these two guys. Like he would find ways to loose at a bet to get naked. And he would stay that way instead of putting clothes back on. I guess he smacked #2 with his cock once and even cut a hole in his pillow and had sex with it. #2 also said #3 would tell him to touch it and want to sleep naked with them. Then he said something about how friend 1 and 3 layed on each other... I dont know who was naked or who was clothed. I guess friend #1 even asked them what had happened (he came over later I guess and saw #3 naked) and #2 was like seriously nothing.

Now... I believe there is possibly a bit of a gay triangle going on here.

And I could just make up names... but thats harder to keep track of and I would likely slip real names... so numbers it is.
 
There are too many friends who you think are gay... i'm starting to get confused lol. Are you sure you're not making all of this up in your head just because you really want to find a guy to fool around with? I used to have a friend back in high school who would always take his cock out on the school bus and show it to all of the guys... he now has a girlfriend and he's had girlfriends before. Sometimes straight guys are just weird
 
I'm totally confuse when reading all this thread. Could you randomly think of some name, and named your friends instead of playing number, xtc99992003???
 
Haha. Sorry. Haha. Dont mean to make it crazy confusing. And no... not making any of this up. And I'm not saying I think they are gay. Just interesting how this all adds up and stuff. And I know lots a guys fool around when they are young. I did it too. But being where I'm at now... It still interests me. So I dont believe that straight men who fooled around at one point with guys can totally get past it and not have anymore curiosity.
 
xtc99992003 said:
Haha. Sorry. Haha. Dont mean to make it crazy confusing. And no... not making any of this up. And I'm not saying I think they are gay. Just interesting how this all adds up and stuff. And I know lots a guys fool around when they are young. I did it too. But being where I'm at now... It still interests me. So I dont believe that straight men who fooled around at one point with guys can totally get past it and not have anymore curiosity.
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--> this is the kind of men that us gays should be EXTREMELY careful... hahaha. May be "your man" just wanna fool around, damn...
 
Alright... so I'll fill in fake names to make it less confusing. AND THERE IS HUGE NEWS! So pay attention after this.

The friend, John, sent me a text message forward. It was two naked guys holding up a towel with their boners and it said here's the towel rack you were looking for. I found it funny as did all my other friends I sent it to except one... Trent. He got hardcore homophobic. So I concluded he isn't comfortable with his sexuality. I mean when you're homophobic about something like that there is something being hidden. (AKA the psychological defense mechanism: projection)

I told John about this and he agreed and continued to tell me things about Trent from when they were friends (John is no longer friends with Trent... its pretty much the same situation as it is with my main friend who will now be named Frank.) I guess Trent loved being naked in front of these two guys. Like he would find ways to loose at a bet to get naked. And he would stay that way instead of putting clothes back on. I guess he smacked John with his cock once and even cut a hole in his pillow and had sex with it. John also said Trent would tell him to touch it and want to sleep naked with them. Then he said something about how Frank and Trent layed on each other... I dont know who was naked or who was clothed. I guess Frank even asked them what had happened (he came over later I guess and saw Trent naked) and John denied that anything happened.

And Frank doesn't know John told me this stuff.

NEWS!
So "Frank" tonight tells me "Trent" made a comment about the forward to someone and said I was gay. (Which I really don't think I am whatever you decide to think... that's what you think. I want a monogamist relationship with a woman and I want to have children with her. If anything I'm bi... but more towards curious really.) So I'm naturally pissed because it's something I'm not. So aside from my fury, I know now (90% sure) that Trent really is using projection. And I explain to Frank that I think this and explain what projection is. And he says "hmmm... that's really interesting". So I flat out asked if something sexual had happened between them. And Frank said he didn't want me to judge him. I reassured him that I wouldn't after all I've jacked off with guys in the same room. So Frank tells me that him and Trent had done stuff together when they were younger. John had told him he got roped into it too. I told him I had experienced similar things when I was younger and that's probably why I still have some interest in some aspects of it.

He naturally... like always... says he is tired and wants to go to sleep. So I let it rest. BUT I KNEW IT! I so called it!
 
So funny, I happen to have a friend who also likes to be naked around us (the group of friends). He always want to play games which end in all of us being naked. I found it really strange that it was him proposing to play games like that, considering that I am the only bisexual in the group of friends (yes, they know).
But this friend went a step further. While we were wii-ing with the two of us, he suggested that if one would make a mistake, that person should take a piece of clothing off. Because I don't find him attractive at all, I did not play along. This situation happened again a few weeks later, and at that point I was not 100% sober anymore (uhm, drunk I guess). So I played along and when he was in the nude, I noticed a boner... Then he asked me to touch it and one thing (sadly) led to another. I actually did not want to have sex with him.
The thing is, he has a girlfriend for a couple of years. I really think he has been bi/curious for a long time, but never had the guts to explore it. The moral of my story: I don't trust heteros anymore who like to play strip games with other guys :)
 
That isn't so for Trent... At least from what I can tell. From both Frank and John, they said he initiated the stuff the whole time. Got the whole thing started with them. John actually told me last night he is pretty sure he is bi. He said Trent was always saying how he never wanted a girlfriend because girls were "bitches". I don't know him that well to say for sure but it would make sense I suppose.

I tried getting a few stories out of Frank. He doesn't seem to want to talk about it. He said he had moved on, he doesn't feel guilty about it, but he doesn't plan on doing that stuff anymore. So just experimenting is out. But that's ok... we've gotten really close anyway... we've both decided we're more brothers than friends. Which I don't know... if something were to happen it wouldn't bother me I don't think.
 
Yes thank you for that advice. But I've decided that a long time ago.

Things have kinda settled down for now though. I'll keep everyone posted.
 
Wow, you got jipped XTC. You've been trying so hard to get with this friend, and he's fooled around with other guys but not you! I'd be pissed at getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop.
 
Eh... Ya I know. But I understand where he is coming from. I was at the same spot he was. He is totally uncomfortable talking about it, which I was too then. I'm attempting to give him my opinions about the whole situation (not doing it to get him to fool around with me) so he can be comfortable with it like I am.

I know it's largely due to our religion. We consider ourselves Christians. But my opinions about the Bible and Christianity are radically different than most other Christians. Basically... I believe the Bible is the word of God... kinda, but since it was written and interpreted by man (minus the red inked parts) the biases at the time of it's writing have influenced it to the point that it was just anti-Pagan or whatever other religion that contradicts Christianity's basic beliefs. And it was built off those ideas. Not to mention the fact the books have been picked through and some that weren't as popular as the others due to their differences were just left out (i.e. Infancy Gospels of Thomas).

But this isn't about Christianity... And I don't want people turning this into a debate. So please don't pick at it...

I even said I would share the stuff that had occurred in my life with other guys... I'm mostly just curious if it's similar or not. And he still won't. It is interesting though... says he isn't guilty about it but won't talk about it. I want to bring that to his attention. I'm afraid he might get mad though.
 
I asked him why he doesn't want to talk about it since he says he isn't guilty about it. Said he just doesn't want to talk about it... it's in his past. He did say that's why he didn't want to tell me. He knew I would ask about it. I said I was just curious about it and I wouldn't ask anymore. But I asked if he wanted to know my experiences. He said he didn't care. So I sent it to him. He just said "Ic".

Still very mysterious.
 
So ya I haven't said anything lately because nothing has happened. Over the weekend he stayed over and we hung out with another friend... and something happened that confuses me. So we slept in the same bed that night. And knowing that he isn't interested in anything that I originally thought I just stayed on my side and didn't try to get close to him like I did once when he stayed over. But this time... it was him that got close to me. I knew he did it intentionally too. He was awake when we moved closer to me. I know this because he would cough (he is sick right now) when he was awake and when he was asleep he made a noise with his mouth like he is chewing something (he does that all the time so I it by now). And not to mention he would lift his head up and look at me and get his face like three inches away from mine. He would inch his way over so that our arms were touching or we were laying right next to each other.

And I know we are both the type to naturally drift towards the middle of the bed when we're asleep. But... the fact I know he was awake and did all this... very confusing and it totally caught me off guard since we talked about his feelings about messing around with a guy and he is pretty opposed to it.
 
Just block it out from your mind. You're going to go crazy always obsessing over it. Why not just go with the flow and if something happens, it happens, but seriously, i don't think it will. But if it does, make sure he makes the first move. I know you want it to happen but wishing for something that will never happen is kind of pointless especially when you can concentrate on something that can happen so if you do want to fool around with another guy pursue somebody that actually wants you and somebody who you know wants you. This is supposed to be fun... is it fun always guessing if he wants you or not?
 
I don't obsess over it. Trust me I'm more focused on being his friend than anything else. And it had been pretty much pushed out of my mind since he explained he didn't want to think about all that stuff again since he experienced it as a kid. This is just extremely interesting. I think it shows he isn't being all that truthful about his feelings with me (didn't say about me... just said with me). When I'm not aware (or not supposed to be anyway) his true feelings could be coming out...?
 
Sleeping with, and snuggling up to, a buddy is one thing. Sex with him is something else entirely different. He seems to have drawn that line.

So ... snuggle back, even hug, wrap legs, and enjoy! Crossing that line is up to Him, though, since You have made it apparent that You wouldn't mind if He did.

Heck! I've even snuggled up with naked guys, without any "Play" involved. And that, in itself, was pretty Awesome!

Keep smilin'!! :kiss:(*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
Very true. We've both said we're snugglers. So ya... I guess that does make sense of the differentiation.

And trust me... I did snuggle right back. Ha. He put his arm/ elbow under my armpit and chest and slowly kept inching it in there. So I just moved right over so we were laying directly next to each other. Only the covers kept us from touching totally.
 
There you go! Even nudge those covers out of the way! Just RELAX! (group) :zzz:..|

Keep smilin'!! :kiss:(*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
So I'm not going to act any different. I won't even bring it up. I'll see if he keeps doing it. Then I'll maybe be more aggressive with it.
 
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