Dems to Fox: No thanks!

[CO Bob]

republicans love a free market until their pet media farce falls flat on its face

(snicker, snicker....) They highest rated news network on T.V.! Someone must be watching!

 

[Andreus]

Gotta love bi-partisanship, God who knew crossing party lines could be hot!!!

Obama and Thompson ticket is for me.....

carville and matalin

but gay and sexy

 

[Andreus]

(snicker, snicker....) They highest rated news network on T.V.! Someone must be watching!

huffinton post.....

Fox News' Ratings Take a Nosedive

TVNewser | Posted Tuesday August 29, 2006 at 05:12 PM

Somewhere, Keith Olbermann is sticking pins in a Bill O'Reilly voodoo doll: Fox News' ratings, TVNewser reports, are down since August of last year. Like, way down. Like down 28 percent in primetime among all viewers, down 20 percent in primetime in the "money demo" (viewers aged 25-54) and down 7 percent in daytime viewership overall. In fact, the only place Fox is up is during the day, when they managed a ratings increase of just 2 percent, and even then only in the money demo.
And lest you think this is an industry-wide trend, consider this: over the same time period, CNN and MSNBC are up. CNN's up 35 percent during the day -- 46 percent in the money demo -- and up 21 percent in primetime overall, 25 percent in the money demo. MSNBC's ratings increases aren't quite as impressive -- up 6 percent in primetime overall, 8 percent in the money demo, and up 36 percent in the money demo during the day, 26 percent overall.
We, of course, are Fair and Balanced here, so there won't be any celebrating later tonight. Certainly we will not be opening any champagne. That would be wrong.
- Alex Koppelman

 

[Soilwork]

Somewhere, Keith Olbermann is sticking pins in a Bill O'Reilly voodoo doll: Fox News' ratings, TVNewser reports, are down since August of last year. Like, way down. Like down 28 percent in primetime among all viewers, down 20 percent in primetime in the "money demo" (viewers aged 25-54) and down 7 percent in daytime viewership overall.

owned.

 

[theFallenGod]

The point that is being missed here is that FOX has the most horrific spin team ever... anything and everything that comes out of a Democratic mouth will be twisted, turned, and befuddled by the FOX spin team to make the Democrats look bad...PERIOD....

If one of the candidates said..." I want to feed and shelter the homeless" FOX would spin it to make it sound like they said "feed the homeless to lions"


And when it comes to everyone whining about trying to open communications with "terrorist" nations..... At least their doing something constructive as opposed to threatening with war.....

When it comes to Fox.... let's open our eyes.... its the biggest joke news outlet ever.... I mean honestly.... to endorse Bill O'Rielly who tells everyone to "shut up" whenever they say something factual.....

 

[OtterJoq]

I actually like Glenn Beck. He's way cool 8)

Then again, you like rabid hatemongerer Michael Savage, so we'll just consider the source and move on.

 

[OtterJoq]

The point that is being missed here is that FOX has the most horrific spin team ever...

Not everybody is missing that point, tFG...only the much-vaunted "20 percent" (which is an overestimation worthy of FOX, come to think of it).

 

[chance1]

owned.

that's rich

Fox does more than 3x the rating of MSNBC total day - 3.4 to be exact

In primetime it's 4x the rating of MSNBC

that's not a race

that's a destruction

check the numbers

 

[Sausy]

Well,if the lefties are serious,the memo should go out to all the Dems far and wide in this evil Bush empire,no Dems on Fox period....followed by a countermove of Republican withdrawals from CNN and anything on MSNBC not hosted by Joe Scarborough and Tucker Carlson....really,are you guys on the left serious,because you don't live in the pragmatic real world of getting your message across however you can.I love you guys,but I think on this issue you are WAY out of your depth.

 

[Soilwork]

Their "star journalist" Bill O'Reilly has been called to task today about calling Mexicans "Wetbacks" and suggesting that the black vocal group performing later in the evening were "out in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps."

Trust me, Americans don't need people who watch or support Fox News.

 

[Kulindahr]

With each new "journalist" tantrum by O'Reilly or Geraldo or whomever, FOX cements its status as a showcase for lunatics.

It ain't news...it's a freakin' sideshow. I applaud the Dems' decision.

Most "news" outlets these days are sideshows. They major in gossip and slanted stories, one and all.

But it might have been more fun if they'd all done a FOX debate, and started off with, "I'm sorry to be here tonight...."

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm sure the folks over at the 700 Club,

Dangitall, why'd they have to take away the vomit smilies?!?!

 

[Kulindahr]

would any of the republicans running to replace king george get us the hell out of 1raq?

Actually, yes... but he hasn't got a chance.

 

[Kulindahr]

democratic primaries are not for reaching out to republicans

they are for interparty decisions

there is no good reason to consider a republican entertainment station for that process. it gives them proprietary rights to clips that they will use to misrepresent what they have said

that is the bottom line when it comes to pols trusting an outlet

they have to trust that they will not be misrepresented

since fox took a case to court and won the right to intentionally lie to the public, its easy to see why they made the choice they made

That last line is false, and the falsehood is presented to misrepresent reality to turn it into a partisan position.

This makes a good illustration of what Democrats fear from Fox -- that little bits of what really happened will be strung together to portray something that is quite contrary to the truth.

Thanks for the illustration, Andreus.

 

[Kulindahr]

huffinton post.....

Fox News' Ratings Take a Nosedive

TVNewser | Posted Tuesday August 29, 2006 at 05:12 PM

Somewhere, Keith Olbermann is sticking pins in a Bill O'Reilly voodoo doll: Fox News' ratings, TVNewser reports, are down since August of last year. Like, way down. Like down 28 percent in primetime among all viewers, down 20 percent in primetime in the "money demo" (viewers aged 25-54) and down 7 percent in daytime viewership overall. In fact, the only place Fox is up is during the day, when they managed a ratings increase of just 2 percent, and even then only in the money demo.
And lest you think this is an industry-wide trend, consider this: over the same time period, CNN and MSNBC are up. CNN's up 35 percent during the day -- 46 percent in the money demo -- and up 21 percent in primetime overall, 25 percent in the money demo. MSNBC's ratings increases aren't quite as impressive -- up 6 percent in primetime overall, 8 percent in the money demo, and up 36 percent in the money demo during the day, 26 percent overall.
We, of course, are Fair and Balanced here, so there won't be any celebrating later tonight. Certainly we will not be opening any champagne. That would be wrong.
- Alex Koppelman

I keep wondering when reporters are going to learn how to do statistics.
The information in this snippet is useless -- without a base figure, "up 21 percent" doesn't tell us a thing -- it could be up from 1% to 1.21%, for all the reader knows. There's no basis for comparing Fox to CNN at all, just some hand=waving about changes.
Oh, well, I suppose Chance or someone will bring in real figures.

 

[Kulindahr]

What's intriguing me here is that this has become a wrangle over Fox News, except for a few valiant attempts by such as Sausageater to try to bring in some serious considerations.
What about the other sponsor? Aren't the Democrats running for president snubbing the black community? And what does it say that the black folks were comfortable with sharing sponsorship with Fox, but these upper-class, highly educated white folks (apologies to Obama) aren't? Will we be hearing Republicans' comments about how Democrats only accept the black community when it plays by their rules?

 

[Sausy]

What's intriguing me here is that this has become a wrangle over Fox News, except for a few valiant attempts by such as Sausageater to try to bring in some serious considerations.
What about the other sponsor? Aren't the Democrats running for president snubbing the black community? And what does it say that the black folks were comfortable with sharing sponsorship with Fox, but these upper-class, highly educated white folks (apologies to Obama) aren't? Will we be hearing Republicans' comments about how Democrats only accept the black community when it plays by their rules?

I guess when one is foaming at the mouth about anything Fox,one isn't noticing the liberal Democratic nature of the Congressional Black Caucus.And I have said I don't always agree with what I see there,sometimes it isn't so "fair and balanced" and I get pissed too.But I look at their overall structure,they have some first class correspondents and not every show pushes the conservative bias so aggressively...sticking to the more news oriented shows,they are pretty good compared to the personality-driven(conservative of course)ones.

And if the left feels so strongly about it,then why does any Democrat appear on Fox?Ever?!Ignoring and boycotting FOX won't make it (AND THEIR SIZABLE AUDIENCE) disappear.Even if the left would click their heels three times and wish them away.You don't just deal with the people who support you in politics,you talk to the other side and try to gain some common ground and understanding...present your solutions and contributions towards the great issues facing America and the world,present your best face and make yourself a viable choice,Seeing Democrats in action as they really are is the best thing for the FOX audience,seeing them as people and not righty caricatures.Why are they so appalled and aghast at the prospect of engaging the other side,on the other side's turf?It can even be delightfully subversive,you think of it!

I can't say more than I have already,many liberal Dems hear are absolutely unwilling to open their minds on this,to explore beyond their comfortable ideological rigidity and certitude.I'm really striving to reach the more numerous middle and true classic liberals who love the free and unfettered exchange of ideas here.Is this what the great Democratic party has come to,and if it has,can it long thrive in this mindset?

 

[Kulindahr]

It isn't just "the other side" -- someone here noted that there are a lot of Democrats who watch Fox. I'd see this as a chance to get some of them to pay attention to the people their party has in the field at the moment. I suspect that Bill Richardson would look good to a lot of Fox voters, and Lieberman might also.

As for the party thriving, I hope with all my heart that the Democratic Party (which is neither democratic nor much of a party) would collapse in the next five years.
Of course, I also hope that the Republican Party (which is neither Republican nor a fun party) would dissolve into nothingness in about 2009.

 

[White Eagle]

I keep wondering when reporters are going to learn how to do statistics.
The information in this snippet is useless -- without a base figure, "up 21 percent" doesn't tell us a thing -- it could be up from 1% to 1.21%, for all the reader knows. There's no basis for comparing Fox to CNN at all, just some hand=waving about changes.
Oh, well, I suppose Chance or someone will bring in real figures.

See post #85. He brought in some figures but real or not no way to tell. He seldom gives a link to what he posts.

 

[chance1]

Their "star journalist" Bill O'Reilly has been called to task today about calling Mexicans "Wetbacks" and suggesting that the black vocal group performing later in the evening were "out in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps."

Trust me, Americans don't need people who watch or support Fox News.

What Americans are you referring to?

Is this your America?

now you're gonna "Imus people" - go after others and try to find statements that can be merchandised as offensive/racist

not very open minded soil

not very liberal