Do JUBbers ever get tired of seeing boys who look like 15 or 16 in the Porn forum? (rant)

[Kulindahr]

Perhaps..But surely not you.Not with over 78,000 posts on one..

Go check and see just how many of my posts are in a porn forum. My bet is I have more in Tech Talk.

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I think you are just jealous because he (Cutttt) has a natural way with words as opposed to your forced and affected way of writing.

And your views on prepubesence are a bit strange, in my opinion.

I'll second that pinion with my own "o".

 

[looseliam]

Smartest thing I've read all week.

You obviously don't read fox news.

I see..And you tirelessly fight gay sterotypes by walking around in make up and being stoned day and night.

Give me a cookie,Dude..

Oh yeah,thanks for your help.

aww I want a cookie, too

 

[Knucklehead]

That isn't cool at all. As much as I disagree with him, let's not go there.

I dis-agree with him too but I think my post was totally fair.He climbs high on a soapbox and wags his finger at people here for perpetuating gay stereoytpes--The guy is a walking stereotype himself.

 

[Knucklehead]

Go check and see just how many of my posts are in a porn forum. My bet is I have more in Tech Talk.

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Wow..That's a lot of posting!. I wonder what the pleasure nazis here will think of that..

 

[DigitalFudge]

And you tirelessly fight gay sterotypes by walking around in make up and being stoned day and night.

Ah

It begins

 

[BFizzle]

I see..And you tirelessly fight gay sterotypes by walking around in make up and being stoned day and night.

Whelp.

 

[star-warrior]

And the winner of the contest is

 

[hungkee]

I think that this insistence by some to continually skate between 18+ guys and actual young/middle teen 15-16 yrs olds makes for a completely ridiculous (dare I say, stupid) "debate".

Pick ONE: Is this about men into 13-14-15-16 year-old kids OR into smooth, youthful legal adults of 18+ (in porn or not).

Otherwise, you guys will never be able to hold a responsible, "adult" conversation, let alone, "debate" about either issue.

Is it about role playing? Legal adults being portrayed as high school sophomores?

Or is it about real high school sophomores and the adult men who lust after them?

But again, the original issue was about BARELY LEGAL variety porn using legal-aged young MEN who happen to be a certain physical type (indicating youthful traits).

That isn't illegal, you know - to be youthful looking, smooth and lanky (with a tiny ass and 9-inches of rock solid boner).

These guys, rather than doing porn, ONCE AGAIN are a lot of what makes for our young army recruits, you know. They could be in the army rather than sucking cocks in front of a camera. We SEE these lanky, wiry "kids" all the time in the news - wearing uniforms. We see their smooth physiques in YouTube videos showing 18/19 yr old recruits horsing around in nothing but their skivvies.

They're lanky, wiry, thin, baby-faced, and resembling themselves at the ages of 15 and 16.

But they're 18. And they're soldiers. And they're of LEGAL.

So I put forth the following scenario (and to get away from the paranoia and guilt which obviously some gay men are still burdened by even in 2012).

PICTURE IT! WAR-TIME 1943!

As we all know, the military often set up their own red light districts for their men. In Hawaii, for instance, the lines of guys waiting their turn to screw some prostitutes went around the block.

In fact, there are verified reports that at one "official" whore house, only one girl was able to show up and she took on at least 75 young soldiers (who all had cash on hand and big boners in their uniform trousers).

THE TROOPS MUST BE SERVED!

Okay, so getting away from the GAY bullshit angle of this "Barely Legal" kid-looking 18 yr old false "debate", let's say that 1 in 10 of the young soldiers or sailors in line at a war-time whorehouse is 18 years of age.

Of course, there were fare more than 1 in 10 of that age.

But let's say 1 in 10 was a skinny, smooth, baby-faced kid who looked to be 15-16.

Yet we all know he was 18 and a soldier like all the rest.

Were the female prostitutes who let these "kids" mount & fuck them "pedophiles"?

Were they even ephebophiles?

Would MPs have dragged these women away for having intercourse with ejaculating children?

No. Because everyone knew that no matter how smooth & young these guys looked they were military-issue legal aged little horndogs - just as legal and worthy to take a turn screwing these ladies of the night as were their more muscled, hairier peers (who were also 18, let's not forget).

 

[TickTockMan]

That isn't cool at all. As much as I disagree with him, let's not go there.

Knucklehead is right. Ashy is saying people breaking no laws or rules are making the queer community look bad by liking younger looking people. All the while Ashy’s emo self loves to brag about how high he gets smoking pot and popping pills. Who makes the queer community look worse? The people breaking no laws and hurting no one or the person that not only breaks the law, but loves to brag to everyone about it as well.


Both are unfortunate stereotypes and both will be used against us by bigots. However, most people would have no problem with the one, while they may or may not have an issue with the other.

 

[hungkee]

Yikes.

This thread is very clearly about 18 year olds that some people think look too young. And some individuals can't separate how old/young one looks and how old/young one actually is.

ps. The quantity of words you use doesn't equal quality.

Attempting to insult me doesn't make your posts either appealing or effective. So I would refrain from even attempting to go there.

Instead, I recommend that you re-read this entire thread and then try to repeat your superficial and inaccurate comment about the many "observations" made in it.

You apparently aren't much of a reader. And so I tend to think that you glossed over much of the detail contained in the five pages of comments made. I mean, that much is glaringly apparent.

It would do you well to brush up on both your reading skills and attention span. I know that many people such as yourself live in a 140 word or less world but many issues in life require far more than that to understand, let alone, debate.

And by the way, you didn't answer the challenge made in my last post. How do you regard a female taking on very young-looking soldiers in completely heterosexual sex? (I ask again because I know that you don't actually read anything).

 

[altlover85]

Wouldn't it be better if instead of trading insults, you both cited posts that prove your case?

 

[altlover85]

I've already made my points.

Yes, you've made your points and I basically agree with you, but the person you are debating isn't seeing where you are coming from, so I thought you might be able to clarify your position through the use of prior posts.

Just a suggestion.

On a side note, is that your cat in your avatar?

 

[hungkee]

The portion I quoted of you was pretty insulting to the people in this discussion. It is quite obvious that you don't see this as an "adult" "debate" yet you continue to contribute to the discussion. It is apparently not OK for me to make a dig at you but in the very same response it is OK for you to make multiple digs at me.

I don't have a problem with reading, my attention span is fine. I also have no problems with making points that are over 140 words but not every discussion needs them. Especially ones that aren't "adult debates".

I stand by my opinion that one cannot have a proper adult debate about an issue (any issue) unless that issue is clarified or made very clear. Otherwise it remains a high school or middle school level debate in which anyone can continually shift the issues or tack on irrelevant issues at will.

Throughout this thread there has clearly been posts made stating this is about too much BARELY LEGAL sort of gay porn (which some love and others hate).

Yet throughout this thread are comments which fluctuate between that issue and issues of pedophilia. Suddenly one isn't discussing or "debating" too much regarding barely legal porn (and young looking adult men) but, instead, the concept that such stuff is just an excuse to fuel pedophile and ephebophile desires on the part of gay men.

Yet does this "debate" exist on straight forums? Do hetero guys bash one another because they like their porn girls, dates and even their wives to be 18? Do they call them pedos? Most every porn girl is 18 or starts at 18.

Yet this thread is so messy, murky and irresponsible (as an adolescent debate will be) that the issues as they pertain to GAY MEN and 18 year-olds is generally insulting to every gay man out there.

So, again, I suggest that this thread get its act together, clarify its issues and then...stick to them. Otherwise, its all a reckless dialogue making mush mosh out of anything its attempting to communicate.

(And again, you have as yet to address the scenario of an adult female having sex with a very young looking 18 year-old soldier).

 

[altlover85]

Technically not mine, it is my boyfriends cat. I don't get to see her all the time so I use her as my avatar so I can see her every day.

Oh, cute!

I stand by my opinion that one cannot have a proper adult debate about an issue (any issue) unless that issue is clarified or made very clear. Otherwise it remains a high school or middle school level debate in which anyone can continually shift the issues or tack on irrelevant issues at will.

I think that's a good idea, but perhaps because this isn't a technical debate the issue at hand can move about and change as further information is revealed about the motives of the participant, specifically the OP.

Yet does this "debate" exist on straight forums? Do hetero guys bash one another because they like their porn girls, dates and even their wives to be 18? Do they call them pedos? Most every porn girl is 18 or starts at 18.

We have no real idea if this debate exists on straight porn forums. I doubt it does to the extent it does amongst gay men because gay men have been falsely linked to pedophilia.

(And again, you have as yet to address the scenario of an adult female having sex with a very young looking 18 year-old soldier).

Although this wasn't addressed to me, the relevance of this to the issue at hand seems weak. Women generally don't have the baggage that gay men do when it comes to doing yonger guys. I feel like you are focusing too much on the military, but that's just my opinion.

 

[vulgar_newcomer]

my view is Knucklehead is very cool and a fucking gear jammer with spotter experience

 

[Telstra]

my view is Knucklehead is very cool and a fucking gear jammer with spotter experience

You sounds so aggressive and angry today.

 

[altlover85]

You sounds so aggressive and angry today.

What planet are you on today?

 

[Telstra]

my view is Knucklehead is very cool and a fucking gear jammer with spotter experience

oh sorry, if knuckehead is a JUB member, i don't know what im talking about coz i haven't read his post.

 

[hungkee]

Unfortunately that is the nature of the beast when it comes to an internet forum. You're not going to get clear debates with so many conflicting ideals. Where everyone isn't going to be able to accept different opinions and people aren't going to accept they're wrong. Especially in this thread when the OP stated the the few people that understood him where the ones that agreed with him.

But if you READ all of the OP's posts, you will see that in his own words he shifts between the first statement of Barely Legal porn at JUB (there being too much of it and the fact he doesn't like it) to another comment in which he states that its about men getting off to guys of 15-16 (dropping, suddenly, the caveat of Barely Legal porn or 18+ models).

Re-read the thread and you'll clearly see where the OP himself fluctuates being being concise in his terms pertaining to Barely Legal porn (and the fact he personally doesn't like it) to posts in which he's rather accusing fans of such material of being suspect or thisside of pedo.

That's when and why the "discussion" and "debate" in this thread has been erratic and murky.

I don't know if the topic was discussed on other forums before I don't venture much on hetero forums.

...I am going to assume that hetero's aren't much above having their discussions turn out the same way. So I wouldn't really consider this to be insulting to gay men because specific people don't know how to stay on topic, or specific people don't know how to keep things civil in a discussion.

We have no real idea if this debate exists on straight porn forums. I doubt it does to the extent it does amongst gay men because gay men have been falsely linked to pedophilia.

And again, do gays live in a bubble? As not to even concern oneself with what the hetero world does or thinks about the issue of 18 year-old GIRLS?

I sure don't live on Planet Gayball in which I have no sense or interest in the wider society (of which we are members).

Although this wasn't addressed to me, the relevance of this to the issue at hand seems weak. Women generally don't have the baggage that gay men do when it comes to doing yonger guys. I feel like you are focusing too much on the military, but that's just my opinion.

I only use the military as a simple, easy example. The guys are at least 18 and verified of age by the government.

The fact that women CAN screw with most any young guy is different than that young guy looking 15-16 (even if 18). So does it make the adult woman having sex with an adult 18 year-old who could do Barely Legal gay porn a pedo? It doesn't change his age or physical characteristics whether he's getting head from a woman or a man.

 

[Telstra]

I guess people here really like debating and win.
They should have a TV show like the views format so i can watch instead of reading it.