Dodgeball, one 4th grader hit another with a ball and got charged with agg assault... no, really

[Dominus]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cri...-dodgeball-injury-blame-racism-191039356.html

I loved playing dodgeball when I was a kid. Even in college, I loved playing it. Yeah, I got hurt several times. But that's part of the game.

 

[luckynumbah7]

She's the one who said he was susceptible to head injuries - does she not know what that means? I mean, if I had a kid taking gym I'd be expecting a mishap eventually, susceptibility or no. Everyone gets a good thump somewhere on their person in gym at least a half dozen times a year. I don't think I see anywhere in the article that him getting hit in the face is a trend(?*) so I'd be hard pressed on calling it assault.

*It says the white kid had other school incidents but it seems they were all in gym class? He really shouldn't be engaging in contact sports.

 

[EddMarkStarr]

I loved dodgeball as a little kid when girls and boys played games together.

 

[Cormac135]

Well i've never been more glad Piers Morgan is on summer holiday from morning tv as he'd have went on for hours in mock horror about kids being mollycoddled etc, etc.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Not sure when and what triggers assault charges for kids, but he was suspended for a day, which suggests it wasn't an accident. The story is inconsistent.

 

[ronboy]

Michigan must be behind the times.

The State of New York outlawed dodgeball as both a physical education and playground game years ago!

 

[Dominus]

Not sure when and what triggers assault charges for kids, but he was suspended for a day, which suggests it wasn't an accident. The story is inconsistent.

If you look around, you can get more info on this. From what I've gathered, the mom insisted that the kid who threw the ball was intentionally aiming for her son's face. Schools these days will do anything to appease the parents. So the kid got a day suspension. That should have been the end of it. But the mom kept on pressing until she found someone in the legal system willing to file agg assault charges.

No, there isn't anything more to the story. It was dodgeball. One kid got hit in the face and ended with a bruise. The mom wouldn't let it go and no one was willing to stand up for the other kid.

 

[NotHardUp1]

If you look around, you can get more info on this. From what I've gathered, the mom insisted that the kid who threw the ball was intentionally aiming for her son's face. Schools these days will do anything to appease the parents. So the kid got a day suspension. That should have been the end of it. But the mom kept on pressing until she found someone in the legal system willing to file agg assault charges.

No, there isn't anything more to the story. It was dodgeball. One kid got hit in the face and ended with a bruise. The mom wouldn't let it go and no one was willing to stand up for the other kid.

There is nothing more for you, but it's not your kid.

I was a teacher. One thing I'm sure of, the kids do cruel things and do sometimes use physical games to inflict harm on purpose.

If the school suspended him on nothing more than the mother's allegation, then it's crap anyway. The supervising teachers should have been able to tell, IF they witnessed it, the nature of the hit.

For some reason, a prosecutor has found grounds for charges, which is highly unusual.

I'm sure we don't know the facts though. We only know the opinions, and yours is just as impugned as anyone else's as you've already posted numerous times that you assert that whites are all racists.

This is just thread number 30 in a series. You find things that confirm your bias. It's not meaningful.

The charge may be racist, may not, but we can't know. We only know your goal in posting it. It can obviously only lead the reader to conclude what you want him to think.

 

[Dominus]

There is nothing more for you, but it's not your kid.

I was a teacher. One thing I'm sure of, the kids do cruel things and do sometimes use physical games to inflict harm on purpose.

If the school suspended him on nothing more than the mother's allegation, then it's crap anyway. The supervising teachers should have been able to tell, IF they witnessed it, the nature of the hit.

For some reason, a prosecutor has found grounds for charges, which is highly unusual.

I'm sure we don't know the facts though. We only know the opinions, and yours is just as impugned as anyone else's as you've already posted numerous times that you assert that whites are all racists.

This is just thread number 30 in a series. You find things that confirm your bias. It's not meaningful.

The charge may be racist, may not, but we can't know. We only know your goal in posting it. It can obviously only lead the reader to conclude what you want him to think.

I'm a little puzzled considering I have not mentioned race at all and that I don't think this has anything to do with race.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I loved dodgeball as a little kid when girls and boys played games together.

I liked it in theory - the practice was always something else. No depth perception and having what's essentially a wall of color tossed in my direction rarely went well- more often than not I'd jump in the way of another round horror. I wasn't first out by any means - but I didn't last that long, too many people in the way, and then there's rebounding balls to worry about. And then you go to smack someone else out and ya can't really discern the ball because there's more sailing straight along with yours, all aimed at whoever managed to make it till the end...

On the other hand, at least I could see the ball's existence when in-us. Beat raquetball by a mile, there.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I'm a little puzzled considering I have not mentioned race at all and that I don't think this has anything to do with race.

A little more honesty, please.

The article linked plainly discussed race, even having a quote by an official that this was but yet another example of racism and the targeting of black kids. It pointed out the race of the injured kid and the one doing the injuring.

From the article you linked:

The article title

10-year-old boy charged with assault after dodgeball injury: 'Our kids are racially targeted'

From the article, third sentence:

Now, because the boy being punished is black and the boy who was injured is white, some critics are calling the incident racist

From Paragraph 4:

“Some 10 year olds were playing dodgeball on the playground at school. A white kid got hit with the ball. Then they charged the 10 year old Black child with assault,” tweeted film producer and self-dubbed “No. 1 race baiter” Tariq Nasheed. “This is why we should not prioritize any of these border issues, while our kids are racially targeted.”

Mr. Nasheed is a film producer, having made documentaries about black history, and seems to have elevated the incident possibly to elevate his own publicity or visibility, if Yahoo qualifies as publicity.

The article continues with the theme of racism to the end of it.

For most people who have dealt with schools and moms, it looks pretty much like an injured kids mom going outside the school to get redress. Why that suddenly is racist is not demonstrated or proven. There's hardly a history of charging black kids in public schools with assault during schoold when it is short of an actual attack or brawl.

This case isn't any part of a pattern, but a one off. It's no more valid an example of racism than is anything Trump elevates to such moronic levels. It was just a handy stick to grab in the culture wars, and Mr. Nasheed did the grabbing. And, as much as I'm against keeping immigrants out, the reference to that was wholly irrelevant.

 

[Dominus]

A little more honesty, please.

The article linked plainly discussed race, even having a quote by an official that this was but yet another example of racism and the targeting of black kids. It pointed out the race of the injured kid and the one doing the injuring.

From the article you linked:

The article title



From the article, third sentence:



From Paragraph 4:



Mr. Nasheed is a film producer, having made documentaries about black history, and seems to have elevated the incident possibly to elevate his own publicity or visibility, if Yahoo qualifies as publicity.

The article continues with the theme of racism to the end of it.

For most people who have dealt with schools and moms, it looks pretty much like an injured kids mom going outside the school to get redress. Why that suddenly is racist is not demonstrated or proven. There's hardly a history of charging black kids in public schools with assault during schoold when it is short of an actual attack or brawl.

This case isn't any part of a pattern, but a one off. It's no more valid an example of racism than is anything Trump elevates to such moronic levels. It was just a handy stick to grab in the culture wars, and Mr. Nasheed did the grabbing. And, as much as I'm against keeping immigrants out, the reference to that was wholly irrelevant.

I am honest. The article mentioned race, yes. But I was very careful with my wording to not include race. I don't think it has anything to do with race. I think it has more to do with an overzealous mother.

Agg assault is a very serious charge. Dodgeball is a game where you try to hit your opponents with the ball. Assuming the worst case scenario in which the kid aimed for the other kids face, that still does not warrant sending him to juvie.

Edit.

Regarding in the writer of the article, I did not research about it. I googled and picked a link. This is not a trial and I do not claim to be an internet detective or expert. I worked for 12 hours on my business yesterday so no I don't have time to do extensive research on who wrote what.

Here is another link that came up on Google.

https://www.wtxl.com/news/national/...assault-following-injury-on-school-playground

 

[peeonme]

First, dodge ball gives a good opportunity to those who are aggressive to bully other children and should not be allowed.
I am surprised that any action was taken if this was intentional, that is why children get bullied, it's allowed... even though schools say that they have a zero tolerance policy against this sort of thing.
The vic. had a black eye, that is not an accident. To do this you have to aim and throw hard. All too often kids that are the victims of aggressive bullies are told to get consoling to see why they can't "get along", I applaud the school and the police for doing their job.

 

[rareboy]

Who the fuck tolerates dodgeball as a recreational activity in school any more?

It was never a good game to play. I saw some real injuries when we played it in public school before it was stopped...and it was stopped in the 1960's.

I can't comment on the story itself because I wasn't there.

But the real fault here is with adults who somehow think that dodgeball is a sport for children.

 

[HoodedRat]

This site always makes me feel a bit ignorant; I can honestly say I have never heard of 'dodgeball'.

Just read the Wiki page; I don't recall it ever being played at shool when I was kid in the 60/70s.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

^ We played it in The Netherlands. It was called "trefbal" ("engageball") and usually played when there wasn't more serious instruction planned. I'm sure they stopped doing it at this point.

It was about as useful as a cock-flavored lollipop.

 

[sixthson]

^ We played it in The Netherlands. It was called "trefbal" ("engageball") and usually played when there wasn't more serious instruction planned. I'm sure they stopped doing it at this point.

It was about as useful as a cock-flavored lollipop.

I prefer lollipop flavored cock.

Back on topic: the goal of dodgeball is to hurt someone, especially in the face. Instead of a game getting the aggression out, I suspect it leads to more aggression being acceptable. I was also a little suspicious of guys who aim at other guys crotches.

 

[rareboy]

^ This.

It only made the aggressive bullies more aggressive....I remember some kids who were totally enjoying the actual hurt they were able to cause. And tried to aim to cause more.

The weaklings among us who had to wear glasses and who saw the game for what it was just made sure we got hit and sent out as early as possible, because the aggression would just build until someone actually got injured in some way.

The sick fuck teacher who ran the 'game' actually overlooked all the hard shots to the head.

And the bullies who hurt people then grew up to be the bullies who still had anger and self-control issues when they grew up, got married and had kids.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Who the fuck tolerates dodgeball as a recreational activity in school any more?

It was never a good game to play. I saw some real injuries when we played it in public school before it was stopped...and it was stopped in the 1960's.

I can't comment on the story itself because I wasn't there.

But the real fault here is with adults who somehow think that dodgeball is a sport for children.

Might've been stopped where you were, but it was alive and well when I went to school. But then, my gym teachers had hawk eyes - if any of the kids had gotten regularly hit in such a manner as to cause bruises, let alone regularly hit in the shoulders or crotch, it would've been discontinued and the entire class would've gotten in trouble. Most I ever (deliberately) got in gym class was spit on.

-other teachers, however, could've upped their noticing game.

 

[NotHardUp1]

The article mentioned race, yes. But I was very careful with my wording to not include race. I don't think it has anything to do with race. I think it has more to do with an overzealous mother.

Perhaps you don't own your bias, but anyone choosing an article with a title that includes "racially" in large font, is either disingenuous or deceptive. If you read the article which you linked, you could not have avoided it's racial direction in every sentence. It was literally the point of the article. Being "careful" not to use the term in your post doesn't change the point of the article.

I don't have any position that is was racial or not, as we can't know without being there or seeing it, but the case is only in that article because of the racial allegation.