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Anyone is free to retreat back into their little shack in the mountains and heap as much personal hate on other races as they like, Pat. Their ability to come down into a classroom or office building and do the same thing in mixed company is not as tolerated because then it is they trying to force their way of thinking onto people it will negatively impact.

One wonders if your sympathy for the oppressed racist extends to sympathy for extreme-branch Muslims unable to impose their views onto a larger society as well.
 
Dejavudoo said:
How convenient. Wave a spectre of your imaginary future rather than reality. The Fundamentalists are fond of arguing slippery slope theories of this leads to that. Good company you keep there. Bad syllogism. Bad argument.
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If you say so. You're the one who wants the brave new world where every opinion is tolerated and given equal treatment. Who knows where your crazy world will end up.

It's predictable that we've grown so accustomed to a Democrat in the White House that the most popular TV show in America right now can be a bunch of Bible-thumping rednecks and we think that will have no affect on politics.
 
Dejavudoo said:
Hatred and not accepting another lifestyle are two different things. Plenty of people do not understand or accept gays, but they aren't actively teaching hate nor do they treat gays with hatred.
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Plenty of these people have kids and are teaching these beliefs to them by just being their Parents. And those kids could past those beliefs to other children around them or their own kids later in life.
 
pat grimshaw said:
And this good woman got rid of alcoholism. Right minded people shut down the bars and destroyed the freedom to have open alcoholism.

Did she succeed in her quest?
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Alcoholics and civil rights activists.

Yeah

Classy comparison Pat, but then look who I am talking to...
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
Plenty of these people have kids and are teaching these beliefs to them by just being their Parents. ….
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I agree with you. Criminals, second-generation welfare recipients and those parents with more than 5 offspring should be silently disinseminated.
 
Alnitak said:
Is that how Australians got away with poisoning Aborigine wells ..
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You have been listening to propaganda from the Irish-Australian lobby. Statistics show that any conflict occurred without government supervision and over 170 years ago.

Besides that conflict was 1% compared to the extent of the conflict in North America.
 
pat grimshaw said:
The principle is the same. The elite telling the proletariat what to do and think.
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This.

I'm totally fine with racists and homophobes and everybody else spouting their views, even from the loudest pulpits, to the largest audiences possible. Because stamping out those voices doesn't give the impression that these views are wrong. It gives the impression that these views are DANGEROUS. Which leads to people becoming interested in them. The forbidden fruit factor and all that.

The proper response to voices espousing racism and homophobia and all else isn't to ban them out right - it's to counter them. To explain why those vantage points are wrong. I mean, you CAN do that, can't you? Because if you can't, maybe you need to take another look at your stances.

From the start, I've said the right move here isn't to kick the guy off the show. It's to send a busload of gays up to visit them, and film a two-hour "special" episode.

Lex
 
pat grimshaw said:
I agree with you. Criminals, second-generation welfare recipients and those parents with more than 5 offspring should be silently disinseminated.
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Nothing like a little Christmastime genocidally racist viewpoint exchanging.

What's in your stocking?
 
G-Lexington said:
This.

I'm totally fine with racists and homophobes and everybody else spouting their views, even from the loudest pulpits, to the largest audiences possible. Because stamping out those voices doesn't give the impression that these views are wrong. It gives the impression that these views are DANGEROUS. Which leads to people becoming interested in them. The forbidden fruit factor and all that.
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So when one kid calls a black kid a ni**** in class, the teacher should do nothing because you are giving it the appeal of the forbidden. Nor should the class expect or react or pressure the kid out of calling him that. That would make a civil society, wouldn't it?

Maybe you don't realize that what you're saying people "should do" shifts all of the constant burden onto a few groups of people who apparently have the obligation now to sit and have a long debate every single time they experience open and freely tolerated hate or racist rhetoric directed at their group, and perhaps you also overestimate the degree to which anyone calmly trying to talk someone out of that has any effect.
 
People actually caring about this incident…I don't know. Does anyone actually watch their show? I don't want to come off as a pompous ass, but I have zero time for that shit, or any reality television these days. Yet from the little that I've read the guy *apparently* claims to be educated with a degree, which stuns me. Is there really such disparity in education down there? Yikes.

But if your relatives are pissing you off enough, watch some George Carlin comedy specials online. He makes everything better.
 
G-Lexington said:
This.

I'm totally fine with racists and homophobes and everybody else spouting their views, even from the loudest pulpits, to the largest audiences possible. Because stamping out those voices doesn't give the impression that these views are wrong. It gives the impression that these views are DANGEROUS. Which leads to people becoming interested in them. The forbidden fruit factor and all that.

The proper response to voices espousing racism and homophobia and all else isn't to ban them out right - it's to counter them. To explain why those vantage points are wrong. I mean, you CAN do that, can't you? Because if you can't, maybe you need to take another look at your stances.

From the start, I've said the right move here isn't to kick the guy off the show. It's to send a busload of gays up to visit them, and film a two-hour "special" episode.

Lex
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And the culturally reinforced stereotypes responsible for homeless LGBT youth, 40% of homeless youth in fact.

You are fine with that as well I suppose?

God you people are so fucking naive. How old are you?

xbuzzerx said:
So when one kid calls a black kid a ni**** in class, the teacher should do nothing because you are giving it the appeal of the forbidden. Nor should the class expect or react or pressure the kid out of calling him that. That would make a civil society, wouldn't it?

Maybe you don't realize that what you're saying people "should do" shifts all of the constant burden onto a few groups of people who apparently have the obligation now to sit and have a long debate every single time they experience open and freely tolerated hate or racist rhetoric directed at their group, and perhaps you also overestimate the degree to which anyone calmly trying to talk someone out of that has any effect.
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This.
 
G-Lexington said:
This.

I'm totally fine with racists and homophobes and everybody else spouting their views, even from the loudest pulpits, to the largest audiences possible. Because stamping out those voices doesn't give the impression that these views are wrong. It gives the impression that these views are DANGEROUS. Which leads to people becoming interested in them. The forbidden fruit factor and all that.

The proper response to voices espousing racism and homophobia and all else isn't to ban them out right - it's to counter them. To explain why those vantage points are wrong. I mean, you CAN do that, can't you? Because if you can't, maybe you need to take another look at your stances.

From the start, I've said the right move here isn't to kick the guy off the show. It's to send a busload of gays up to visit them, and film a two-hour "special" episode.

Lex
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Seriously?
 
All the people who say he's just expressing his right to freedom of speech are basically just saying "I agree with him 100%! Rake those fags over the coals!"

You can use this to tell who's a homophobe and who isn't... just like the pink and red Human Rights Campaign logo... all the people who posted pink and red crosses and straight couple silhouettes were the sort of people you probably shouldn't be coming out to.

Also, huhuhuh huhuh, Fuck Dynasty! Huhuh hehehehe huhuh huh huhuh hehe :p
 
SaskGuy said:
All the people who say he's just expressing his right to freedom of speech are basically just saying "I agree with him 100%! Rake those fags over the coals!"
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Joseph McCarthy would have loved you.
 
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