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Ever get the feeling 'some' gays would like to open "Homo Re-Educational Camps"

rareboy , this thread isnt about me. I'm not on JUB to sell a product or service, I dont need the Attention

however , i've made my personal views clear on the wars, healthcare, free speech, DADT and DOMA

you are welcome to bump those threads and we can discuss


Nonsense.

This thread is entirely about you and feeling threatened somehow.

Otherwise, the topic is of little or no relevance to this forum or the nature of the discussions here.

It was intended to be combative and divisive.
 
Nonsense.

This thread is entirely about you and feeling threatened somehow.

Otherwise, the topic is of little or no relevance to this forum or the nature of the discussions here.

It was intended to be combative and divisive.

Perfect example of Liberal elitism.
 
Perfect example of Liberal elitism.

Thank God there are still liberal elitists around, instead of the Palin/Beck nose pickers. Someone has to use intelligence instead of being brain dead reactionaries.

Go Liberal Elitists! The right wing fears you!(!)
 
This statement contradicts itself. Or, if you really believe that, then it says a lot. It says what is typical of the left, agree with us or you're dead meat. Hence the hostility here. Someone once said I am fooling with real lives here. Really?? I'm just an average joe. Not a politician with power, not a bureaucrat with power, not a mafia don, not a high ratings talk show, not a reporter or writer, just a regular guy. Not a preacher, not even a town squire. And the hostility has to be seen to be believed.

Um, I was being ironic.
 
Why waste any effort educating them. Might as well go out and talk to a fence post.

I love this -- the wingnuts on both ends can read it and agree, when really they don't agree at all.

Why do all these homophobic straight Republican women have gay kids? Maybe God has a better sense of humor than we thought!

It's the flip side of the hormonal situation that makes guys gay -- it tends to make women into total bitches.

On one hand she claims gays are 3% of the population, but acceptance will be the death knell? Do we really have that much power if we are such a tiny minority? And of course she wraps herself up in the Bible. And other Republicans applaud her.

She wraps herself in the Bible because it's all she has -- if she actually had a connection to Jesus or God, she wouldn't be living as a coward.

All these people who are so afraid of gays, in reality see Jesus as a little plastic toy or cardboard cutout, and their image of God is more like a cleaning lady than anything. They're not merely bad Christians, they're anti-Christians, with no comprehension whatsoever of what the Bible is about.

In the New Testament there's a recounting of an incident where a lady who'd been sick for years comes up and touches Jesus' robe, and gets better. The version of Jesus these people have would have run away, shrieking, "OMG no don't touch me! Icky, yucky sick people go away leave me alone!"
 
She wraps herself in the Bible because it's all she has -- if she actually had a connection to Jesus or God, she wouldn't be living as a coward.

All these people who are so afraid of gays, in reality see Jesus as a little plastic toy or cardboard cutout, and their image of God is more like a cleaning lady than anything. They're not merely bad Christians, they're anti-Christians, with no comprehension whatsoever of what the Bible is about.

In the New Testament there's a recounting of an incident where a lady who'd been sick for years comes up and touches Jesus' robe, and gets better. The version of Jesus these people have would have run away, shrieking, "OMG no don't touch me! Icky, yucky sick people go away leave me alone!"


I thought God created man in his own image, not man creating God in their own image. She's a classic example of that.

Will this demagoguery stop? There aren't godless communists to hate and fear anymore. What better group of people to hate and fear than homosexuals? It even says so! "Abomination" is the word they recite.

When the christian conservatives hijacked the Republican party they needed a new focus. The communists were dying out so after looking around for a while, Republicans / Christians / conservatives decided gays were the target of choice. My Grandmother asked once why "they" (Republicans) are picking on gay people back in the early Reagan days. My Uncle responded because the communists aren't a threat anymore. At the age of 80, she switched from being a staunch Republican to a liberal Democrat. She didn't like "people being picked on".

I don't think she changed much tho.... it was the political tide that drifted elsewhere and she stayed pretty much the same. What was once conservatism in the 50's now has become middle of the road. The Republicans have shifted FAR to the right.
 
"Threatened" :rotflmao:


Strange that only the most Left posters are the ones squealing :cry:

Uhhhhhhhhh.

Look at who made the thread in the first place.

And you say you're not feeling threatened?
 
When the christian conservatives hijacked the Republican party they needed a new focus. The communists were dying out so after looking around for a while, Republicans / Christians / conservatives decided gays were the target of choice. My Grandmother asked once why "they" (Republicans) are picking on gay people back in the early Reagan days. My Uncle responded because the communists aren't a threat anymore. At the age of 80, she switched from being a staunch Republican to a liberal Democrat. She didn't like "people being picked on".

I don't think she changed much tho.... it was the political tide that drifted elsewhere and she stayed pretty much the same. What was once conservatism in the 50's now has become middle of the road. The Republicans have shifted FAR to the right.

There is value in being out: one of my mom's friends figured out "your son likes men, doesn't he?" A minute later, it was "I can't vote anymore for anyone who hates those people, when I know one, and he's so nice."

I'll accept the "those people" if it's one less vote for the haters.


As to your end paragraph, did you see this thread?
 
Thanks kuli...

Skimmed your post and I may agree somewhat with what you mentioned, but I have to confess tonight I've been imbibing..... and to make matters worse my publisher has been cracking the whip and reading even more and critiquing is like making a Domino's Pizza employee sample every tomato based project. I'll get to it another time.
 
"Who needs enemies with friends like these?"

-English Proverb

JockBoy, since you brought up a proverb, a common saying, I've always thought this might be a handy one to keep in mind for those who advocate and work for LGBT equality:

"If you walk only on sunny days, you will never reach your destination."

The meaning being you will never accomplish your goal if you only take the easiest path. Some of us will trudge through the rain and others will simply enjoy the fruits of such labor.
 
Liberal elitism is such a bullshit term, used like 'progressive' by the reactionaries with not only limited education but the lack of desire for intellectual curiousity.

It is usually trotted out by ex-beauty queens or illiterate drop-outs to paint their opponents as out of touch or incapable of understanding the 'common' condition.

It is the clarion call of the T-baggers and religious fundamentalists when they are confronted with ideas and facts that don't conform to their doctinaire, solipsistic view of the world.

The fact is, the right wingers, from grim faced church-goers in bumfuck Idaho intent on snuffing out gay rights to the corporate power brokers who bankroll the Republican party are also elitist to their very core. In fact, the Republicans are proud to identify as the party of big business and white god-fearing folk.

Some of the greatest elitist thinkers are conservative. George Wills and William F. Buckley to name two.

The very idea of individual wealth over Commonwealth is elitist. The idea of individualism is elitist.

The openly stated goals of most of the Republican and t-bag legislators are elitist, although, to be fair not intellectually elitist.

So stop trotting out that tired old horse.

Although, I imagine it is the only one you have to ride around on.
 
Thanks kuli...

Skimmed your post and I may agree somewhat with what you mentioned, but I have to confess tonight I've been imbibing..... and to make matters worse my publisher has been cracking the whip and reading even more and critiquing is like making a Domino's Pizza employee sample every tomato based project. I'll get to it another time.

. . . .

... which wouldn't be so bad if Domino's would let you sample the employees....

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Liberal elitism is such a bullshit term, used like 'progressive' by the reactionaries with not only limited education but the lack of desire for intellectual curiousity.

Bullshit. I hear it used by liberals who are sick and tired of tinhats in Washington who think they're better than anyone else.

It is usually trotted out by ex-beauty queens or illiterate drop-outs to paint their opponents as out of touch or incapable of understanding the 'common' condition.

Bullshit. It's "trotted out" by ordinary people, liberals included, who get frustrated that people who are supposed to represent them just plain are clueless about the real world.

It is the clarion call of the T-baggers and religious fundamentalists when they are confronted with ideas and facts that don't conform to their doctinaire, solipsistic view of the world.

Bullshit. It's a reality call from people who see proposed "solutions" that have little to do with the problems -- and generally cause more problems, in turn.

The fact is, the right wingers, from grim faced church-goers in bumfuck Idaho intent on snuffing out gay rights to the corporate power brokers who bankroll the Republican party are also elitist to their very core. In fact, the Republicans are proud to identify as the party of big business and white god-fearing folk.

Actually most of the folks you list have just been sold a bill of goods. But the rest are indeed elitist -- the difference being that they think reality is something to be bought, as opposed to the liberal elite, who think reality comes from words on a piece of paper.
Although, considering that money is words on a piece of paper, maybe the two aren't so far apart.

Some of the greatest elitist thinkers are conservative. George Wills and William F. Buckley to name two.

I'm not getting how Wills is elitist.

The very idea of individual wealth over Commonwealth is elitist. The idea of individualism is elitist.

Okay, everything is elitist. Fine.

The openly stated goals of most of the Republican and t-bag legislators are elitist, although, to be fair not intellectually elitist.

Aside from the gay issue, the openly stated goals of the Republican types come down to individual equality. That's the opposite of elitist, by definition.

Of course that makes (classical) liberalism the opposite of elitist, too, and that points out the problem with your arguments: the particular ideology of a person or group isn't what makes him or them elitist, it's the attitude that the person or group is so much better and/or understands things so much better that they have some sort of right to toss the liberty of the individual onto the trash heap and dictate how things are to be.
 
and lock up in it until they conform these Sham Homos

1st group rounded up and shipped off to re-educate:

1. Dont vote correctly

2. Dont follow the correct agenda

3. Dont say the correct slogans

4. Dont adore the correct leaders

5. Dont purchase goods or services from correct vendors

(just for starters)
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Come on Bear, you cant be this bored...
 
I'm proud to be a liberal elitist...especially when I consider the alternative.

Money/power hungry, racist, homophobic, fear mongering, religious Reich, arms racing bastards? aka the Republican Party (This means Republicans AFTER Nixon/Ford)
 
Money/power hungry, racist, homophobic, fear mongering, religious Reich, arms racing bastards? aka the Republican Party (This means Republicans AFTER Nixon/Ford)

"Arms racing"?

Thanks to Reagan, in nuclear terms it's the opposite of a race. As for the rest -- who is there to race against???
 
Liberal elitism is such a bullshit term, used like 'progressive' by the reactionaries with not only limited education but the lack of desire for intellectual curiousity.

It is usually trotted out by ex-beauty queens or illiterate drop-outs to paint their opponents as out of touch or incapable of understanding the 'common' condition.

It is the clarion call of the T-baggers and religious fundamentalists when they are confronted with ideas and facts that don't conform to their doctinaire, solipsistic view of the world.

The fact is, the right wingers, from grim faced church-goers in bumfuck Idaho intent on snuffing out gay rights to the corporate power brokers who bankroll the Republican party are also elitist to their very core. In fact, the Republicans are proud to identify as the party of big business and white god-fearing folk.

Some of the greatest elitist thinkers are conservative. George Wills and William F. Buckley to name two.

The very idea of individual wealth over Commonwealth is elitist. The idea of individualism is elitist.

The openly stated goals of most of the Republican and t-bag legislators are elitist, although, to be fair not intellectually elitist.

So stop trotting out that tired old horse.

Although, I imagine it is the only one you have to ride around on.

Wow, you found a thesaurus.

The Liberal Elite is a term used to describe those high ranking members of society - politicians, college educators and celebrities - who regularly promote the Liberal agenda to unsuspecting teenagers and young people. In Ireland, the Liberal Elite is symbolized by Pat Kenny, a prominent talk show host who displays all the worst aspects of the Liberal Style of debating.
The Liberal Elite believe they are superior to others. Not in a physical sense but mentally, they have their high ground and nobody dare challenge. If you challenge the Liberal Elite thinking and beliefs, you risk being ridiculed.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_elite

Sound familiar?
 
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