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Gender Test ordered for 800m World Champion

I'm still confused as to why the test takes two weeks?

Could also be Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia...just saying.
 
A few years ago there was another female athlete, Santhi Soundararajan, who had to undergo a gender test.

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She failed and then attempted suicide a few months later after she was stripped of her medals. However a few months after that, she took up coaching and opened a training center in her native India.

They need to proceed with caution with Caster Semenya.
 
Transpogue said:
This has actually been an issue in women's sports for decades.

There are a lot of females who will test as XY who tend to be athletic. This brings into question what are we going to consider WOMAN and MAN.

Jamie Lee Curtis is XY, but is completely female in her anatomy. The only difference is that XY females cannot conceive.

But it says a lot about the gray areas of genetics when it comes to how we determine, via mere physicality, male and female.
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Well if we're only going to allow woman or man, then xy would be man, and xx would be female. Given people's biological reality however, we should allow woman, man, and other. And we should be making a much greater effort to allow other people to feel confident in remaining that way.

Incidentally, I'm entertaining a better title than "other" but I'm deliberately avoiding the word "intersexed" no matter how officially correct it is. I'm betting that as the thinking on this develops, a lot of people will not want to be labelled in a way that suggests some kind of compromise between male and female...or some kind of failure to attain either pole of a binary gender system. They aren't "inter" anything - they have an uncommon experience but it does not need to be defined as a mid-point between maleness and femaleness.

And, while I'm on a roll, can we all please ban the ridiculous phrase "the opposite sex." Damn that betrays a lot about people's preconceptions of gender.

Also, for the athlete involved, some discretion on the part of the sporting authorities until the testing would be completed would have been in order.
 
bankside said:
Well if we're only going to allow woman or man, then xy would be man, and xx would be female. Given people's biological reality however, we should allow woman, man, and other. And we should be making a much greater effort to allow other people to feel confident in remaining that way.

Incidentally, I'm entertaining a better title than "other" but I'm deliberately avoiding the word "intersexed" no matter how officially correct it is. I'm betting that as the thinking on this develops, a lot of people will not want to be labelled in a way that suggests some kind of compromise between male and female...or some kind of failure to attain either pole of a binary gender system. They aren't "inter" anything - they have an uncommon experience but it does not need to be defined as a mid-point between maleness and femaleness.

And, while I'm on a roll, can we all please ban the ridiculous phrase "the opposite sex." Damn that betrays a lot about people's preconceptions of gender.

Also, for the athlete involved, some discretion on the part of the sporting authorities until the testing would be completed would have been in order.
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Just FYI, sex and gender are not interchangable terms. Sex refers to a biological definition based on reproductive organs (male/female), whereas gender refers to cultural and social definitions (masculine/feminine).
 
Esquire0399 said:
Just FYI, sex and gender are not interchangable terms. Sex refers to a biological definition based on reproductive organs (male/female), whereas gender refers to cultural and social definitions (masculine/feminine).
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If you think about every circumstance where you've ever heard anyone use the phrase "the opposite sex" I think you will agree it is used to refer to a social conception of gender.
 
NedNickerson said:
Caster has been given a makeover!
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Even Wesley Snipes looked good in a dress:
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And to mis-quote Miss Noxeema Jackson:

"When a gay man has way too much fashion sense for one gender,
he is a drag queen.

When you put a dress on South African track star
who happens to be a boy,
he is simply a boy in a dress!"
 
I could be wrong, but I think Caster is a dude and he's fine! I've always liked African men because they're sexy!
 
boxerdudeuk said:
haha now that just looks like a dude in drag. lol
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Inside the magazine, yes, yes she does. According to the morning show shock-jock on nationwide radio, "she looks like a 45-year-old Afrikaans woman on her way out to dinner" which is about right, since a lot of the Afrikaans women tend to have left their fashion sense in 1990, assuming Tootsie was shot then.

Why oh why the PR people got the stylists from YOU (it's the TV guide, basically, with a bit of extra "journalism", frequently half-hearted and either over-sensationalised or over-simplified, thrown in) to do it instead of SA edition Cosmo or Shape (or any other magazine; even the Men's Health fashion guy would have aced it) to do the makeover I will never, never understand.

*sigh*

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I've not heard about the results of the gender test, so I looked around on the Internet and found this:

A source close to the investigation into the 800 metres gold medallist has confirmed that tests carried out before the start of the World Championships indicated that the runner had three times the normal female level of testosterone in her body. :eek:

Telegraph Sport can also reveal that the head coach of the South African team is Dr Ekkart Arbeit, the former East German coach who was accused by a female athlete of giving her so many anabolic steroids that she was forced to undergo a sex-change operation and live the rest of her life as a man. :eek:

More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...enya-tests-show-high-testosterone-levels.html

Sounds to me like this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
^That doctor thing is new to me. Haven't heard that here in the .za press yet...

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I feel bad for her/him. I suppose she considers herself a she so I will refer to her as such. I doubt that she is trying to get an edge. Can you imagine just being who you are and people questioning that? It would be quite embarrassing. I do hope that it was her idea to do the makeover. Otherwise, again it is just sad.
 
How is she is any different looking than Venus and Serena when they get dolled up?
 
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