getting into a relationship with a bisexual guy? yay or nay

[refujiunderground]

By repeating "bi men will" and never specifying that you meant "some bi men will," you implicitly mean "all bi men will." That's how the English language works.

Also, you were answering the question "would you ever get into a relationship with a bi guy" with the answer "no." You're therefore implying that under no circumstance would you ever enter a relationship with a bi guy, because under no circumstance would a bi man act differently than the ways in which you described in your post.

But regardless of the technicalities, it's obvious that you believe all bi men will behave like this. If not, you would examine men on an individual basis and you would have no need to spell out your prejudices. If you really meant that "some" bi guys act like this, then what was your whole point? It seems to me that you were justifying your prejudiced decision (yes, prejudiced is a weighted word but you are technically prejudiced, no judgement) to not date any bi men with broad generalizations. If you WOULD date a bi guy under individual consideration, your answer should be "yes, I would date a bi guy."

I'm not judging you for being prejudiced, it's necessary to some extent in this world. I just want you to be aware of it.

i think you're reaching. you know just because he didn't put some or a few didn't mean that he intended to generalize. he's right too.

if you're gay, it's probably better to get in a relationship with a gay guy is much better because he'll be gay tomorrow.

if you get in a relationship with a bisexual guy, you don't know what to expect tomorrow. to top it off, like what he said before, a bisexual guy will more than likely pull out his straight card when it suits his best interest because he knows that it pays to be straight and it doesn't pay to be gay in today's society. i would love to meet a bisexual man that is married to a man because chances are that is hard to find because let's keep it real here, it doesn't benefit them opposed to getting married to a woman especially knowing that he won't be frowned on, he could have kids, the benefits from getting married to a woman.

 

[Soilwork]

Your reasoning sucks. You made a bunch of stupid generalizations based on dime-store psychology. Your "path of least resistance" thesis has absolutely zero substantiation. Zippo. It's just something you adhere to because of your own perceptions of the world around you.

You might have some credibility if you could point to a body of sociological work that supports that notion, but I'd doubt you could even find a single study in support of that, let alone the wealth of evidence you need for anyone to really believe that shit.

You want me to cite research... How about you cite research?

Can you point me to some studies of long-term Gay relationships with bi men?

I'm all ears.*

 

[yummylongsword]

Oh... So when I say something without implicitly saying that I'm talking about the men in my own experience... That means I'm taking about every on "on the planet."

But when you infer that all bi men are hot assholes... That may or may not be true,

But I'm the hypocrite.

I see.

Interesting.

If you're concerned that bi guys you're interested in will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the hot assholes.

The term "bi guys you're interested in" is directly linked to the term "hot assholes." They are interchangeable nouns.

If you're concerned that the hot assholes will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the bi guys you're interested in.

Means the same thing. Whereas taking just the phrase "bi guys" and switching it...

If you're concerned that hot assholes you're interested in will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the bi guys.

Does NOT mean the same thing.

So, essentially, there is no way to draw the conclusion that I implicitly stated that bi men are assholes, because I used the specific adjective "you're interested in" to modify the noun "bi guys". You, however, did not use any modifying adjectives when describing "bi guys" and so it should be inferred that you mean all bi guys.

 

[refujiunderground]

Based on what? This is just a bunch of meaningless conjecture.

if this is meaningless, please tell me if you know of any bisexual men that are married to men or are fighting to have gay marriage in their state because they're interested in getting married to a man but can't. yes, gay marriage involves gay and bisexual men because we all are interested in men, aren't we? it's easy for a bisexual man to fall back from gay rights than a gay man could especially when it involves gay marriage. with that said, bisexuals will never be apart of the straight community so a bisexual man is playing himself if he thinks he can have a wife and kids and suddenly join the straight community. he's still a bisexual man. there's a lot of bisexuals that are like that.

 

[Soilwork]

You made the claim that bi men are more inclined to settle down with a woman for aesthetic/sociocultural reasons.

The burden of proof is on you.

I'm an agnostic on that particular subject, but I find your piousness given your lack of substantiation contemptible at best.

I didn't realize that we were in a court of law... I thought we were taking about our own observations, experiences and thoughts on the subject.

How silly of me to not know this.

However, since it's so important to you, let's go take a look at every post you've ever made with your own opinions and the observations and experiences that have lead to them and make sure that you cite credible studies and research. We don't want you to just say something without the proper peer review, do we?

For the record... My years of being out, having gay friends, seeing many relationships... I've never seen a gay relationship with a bi man last longer than maybe three years. I am sure they exist... But in my own circle of friends where I've seen in happen... In every case it ended with the big guy going to date/marry a woman.

 

[Soilwork]

The term "bi guys you're interested in" is directly linked to the term "hot assholes." They are interchangeable nouns.

oh.

So every bi guy isn't a hot asshole. Just every bi guy I've been interested in.

Well, that's SO much better.

 

[yummylongsword]

oh.

So every bi guy isn't a hot asshole. Just every bi guy I've been interested in.

Well, that's SO much better.

Yes, it is. I can infer, judging from your personality. Like attracts like.

(Just kidding. You're just stubborn, hardly an asshole)


Yummy out.

 

[Soilwork]

Yes, it is. I can infer, judging from your personality. Like attracts like.

(Just kidding. You're just stubborn, hardly an asshole)


Yummy out.

No no... I'm an asshole.

I'll own that.

 

[Soilwork]

Um... Can you point me to the psychology, dime store or otherwise, that was used?

And... Instigate?

Instigate what, exactly?

 

[oakpope]

Alan Cumming is one of the most famous bisexual. And he married his male partner recently. Go and ask his husband if he thinks Alan is going to cheat on him with a female within 3 years...

If I was lucky enough to be able to attract the attention of a guy, I would be thrilled and besides myself with happiness. If he's gay or bisexual wouldn't change a single thing. Maybe I could be more pride that a bisexual would choose me over all his possibilities than a gay guy.

A bisexual man is a man. But he can be in a relationship with a man or a woman. Being bisexual doesn't mean that he must have both, only that it is possible for him to choose either.

If I was bisexual and I read some posts here, I would be very vexed and shocked. Gay guys should know better.

 

[jaybuoy]

My boyfriend is Bi Sexual and I seriously have no problem what so ever. I don't understand how anyone can put all Bi Sexual men in one basket and say they will defiantly cheat, the ironic thing is that my previous partner who was gay cheated on me with 5 different guys, that hurt.

Now I will admit I did find it very strange at first with my current partner knowing he was bi, as well as him not being out the closet, so you can imagine what was going through my mind, however I told him how I felt and well he came out to his mom, now that's a huge step from my point of view and just shows he is serious about the relationship, I felt terrible after.

 

[Soilwork]

My reasons for never dating a bi guy have nothing to do with cheating at all.

(although bi men always ignore that I say that and blather on and on about how it's all about cheating)

.Go and ask his husband if he thinks Alan is going to cheat on him with a female within 3 years...

See?

You claim to understand how nearly all bisexual men think.

Um. Hm. I don't think I said anything even close to that.

You know damn well what you're instigating. *When you claim that bisexual men behave a certain way and aren't worthy of gay men's trust, you know how the bisexual men at this very board are going to react. *If you don't, you're even more of an imbecile than I thought.

So I'm supposed to not say what I think for fear that you might get your panties in a bunch?

But I'm the "imbecile."

Interesting.

I'm through with this asininity. *Time to go jerk off and play Starcraft and hit the hay.

That's too bad.

I was enjoying your asininity.

And it's always great to be lectured on good dating choices by someone who plays video games, jerks off and then sleeps alone.

And uses fancy words like "asininity" and "imbecile" and "zippo."

*

 

[oakpope]

How nice for people who knows maybe few dozens of bisexual men to extend their knowledge to the entire bisexual men population of Earth.

I don't know a lot of bisexual men, but the few I know don't cheat on their partner (male or female). What does that prove ? Only that not all bisexual men are cheaters.

Shunning bisexual men just because they are bisexual and you know some bisexual men who cheat (with male or female) constitutes the simple basis of prejudice.
And for me prejudice is morally very wrong.

edit for Soilwork : you think that you can't date bisexual men because you would not fulfil all their desires ? The few that I know desire, amazingly, the same as many people : a stable relationship, whether it's with a man or a woman. And thank you, but I'm gay, not bisexual myself. That you won't date bisexual men is your choice, but for me it its a prejudiced choice.

 

[voyager1994]

Nay. I know a few people who are bisexual (although to me they seem to be more interested in men than women) - one used to have a girlfriend who had a hard time with commitment to the relationship, one has partner and yet fools around, and the other maintains two relationships (M and F) at the same time (without his partners knowing about it). They just seem very confused.

 

[Kabluey]

I just realised something - Soilwork is in a monogamous relationship, has been for 20 years.

Kind of makes who he says he would and wouldn't date a moot point, not I guess that it really matters anyway.

 

[Sparky-Sparky-Boom-Boom]

I've had a bad experience with a bi guy just started dating and a week later I found him in bed with dear feamale friend so that left a sour taste for me.

Though I will always feel insecure being with a bi guy for one day he might will leave me for a girl as that is something I can never compete with.
Yet I will never rule it out with bi guys completly because hey you never know.

 

[Sparky-Sparky-Boom-Boom]

Yes being cheated or betray is the same for all but to me it feels a bit strange when it comes to the oppiste sex thats just me I can not speak for anyone else.

I guess if you ask a girl if a guy left her for another man she probably feel the same as I have spoken to friends about this subject. They would rather be dumped for the same sex than the opposite.

 

[PolterGUYst]

I, for one, think it's an absolutely beautiful thing when homosexual men can get together and rag on/make sweeping generalizations about bisexual men. It proves that no matter what your sexual orientation, you can still enjoy the perks of being an asshole with a superiority complex. The big, fat spaces in between these lines clearly read, "I may be gay, but at least I'm not one of those confused, cheating bisexuals!" Hey, you may be uncomfortable in your own skin, but as long as you can convince yourself that there's somebody beneath you, you just might be able to cope. Now please direct me to the Does Being Gay Make You Special? thread. I'd like to post a big fat NO in there.

 

[bw92116]

Poor bisexual guys... nobody's going to trust them enough to enter into a relationship with them.

 

[kenth02]

I currently am having weekly sex with a bi guy. He rings me am comes over and get off.He allows me to do anything to him this week i had anal with him ( i gave to him ) he moaned and groaned heaps it was hot.I know he say he has girl friend but I am not that shore this is true.Anyway while he wants to fuck with no string than I will fuck him.I to have sexual needs and will use him to satisfy them.