On Topic Discussion Glee actor Mark Salling, 35, found dead

[gsdx]

Re: Mark Salling dead

I never trust anyone who brags about it. I know they think it tells people how "wonderful" they are. I have another opinion....and it isn't a good one.

Probably the same as mine. For one thing, I do not trust them, and I'm sure they break more Commandments than I do.

 

[HoodedRat]

Re: Mark Salling dead

His big thing in interviews was to tell everyone what a devout Christian he is when he first got on GLEE...way before any of this.

I never trust anyone who brags about it. I know they think it tells people how "wonderful" they are. I have another opinion....and it isn't a good one.

Of course there are some wonderful people who happen to be Christian..they don't announce it all the time though.

Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart and Anita Bryant and Jerry Falwell and their "Moral Majority" taught me ALOT ...and I will never forget it.

I am highly suspicious of anyone who boasts about their level of 'spirituality', regardless of which path they have chosen to follow.

'Devout' almost seem to be a euphemism for 'hypocritical, immoral, unprincipled, con-artist'.


As regards the paedo-perv in question: he knew what he was doing was wrong; he took the decision to kill himself. I have no sympathy for him; I reserve that for the children who were abused in the photos.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Mark Salling dead

What are the odds that these "collectors" stop at just sharing pictures? Slim, I'd say.

It's easy to filter people's bullshit via application. Since kiddy porn viewers are so innocent until proven guilty of preying on children, raise your hand "They're just viewers" crowd if you'd allow someone who has been caught with child porn to babysit your little brother, niece, nephew, daughter. Cuz I mean you don't KNOW that they're going to abuse children, right? I mean they were only WATCHING so....

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Mark Salling dead

His big thing in interviews was to tell everyone what a devout Christian he is when he first got on GLEE...way before any of this.

I never trust anyone who brags about it. I know they think it tells people how "wonderful" they are. I have another opinion....and it isn't a good one.

This is a recurring theme in America, the ones who proclaim the loudest how holy and righteous they are *COUGH GOP COUGH* are usually, almost inevitably, busted with cocaine, or minors, or underage prostitutes, or any combination of all these things. Real people and especially really good people don't have to go around claiming it because their actions speak for themselves. How does the saying go, methinks thou doth protest too much?

 

[peeonme]

Re: Mark Salling dead

What are the odds that these "collectors" stop at just sharing pictures? Slim, I'd say.

I believe the statement made by those who collect child porn is "I would if I had the chance". Perhaps it's saying "I did and this will suffice until I find another child".

 

[opinterph]

Re: Mark Salling dead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42880924

Convicted child sex abuse viewer Glee actor has done the decent thing and killed himself

This thread is now designated “On-Topic.”

The topic includes: Mark Salling, news of his death (linked BBC News article in the opening post), his personal and legal problems, child sex abuse, and the suggestion proposed by this thread’s creator, LeicsDom, that suicide is an appropriate solution for persons convicted in matters involving child sex abuse.

 

[Telstra]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42880924

Convicted child sex abuse viewer Glee actor has done the decent thing and killed himself

Why only restricted to child sex abuse viewer.
Why not any sex abuse viewer deserve to kill him/her self ?

 

[LeicsDom]

Oh, the thread has come back!

 

[peeonme]

Most people that have sexual desires that run contrary to societal norms find themselves lonely, isolated and afraid.
As is with all of us, they seek out others that share their feelings. The internet has made it possible for people who normally would keep their proclivities hidden to put on a mask of anonymity and express their true feelings to others of the same ilk.

When I started seeing a therapist last year I was warned that if I said anything that meant I could do harm to myself or others that it would be reported. My problem was depression and anger. I found myself being careful as to how I expressed myself so I wouldn't be taken away by the men in white coats.

Now, imagine a person with unwanted sexual desires towards children trying to find help being told on his first visit that if he expressed any thing threatening that he would be 'turned in'. I highly doubt that he would come clean. This doesn't give him a ticket to fulfill his wants, but it should help us understand the horrible burden of being the lowest of the low.

Pure speculation on my part tells me that people with no outlet for these desires and with no support will seek an outlet, the internet makes it all too convenient.

I don't like words such as 'never' and 'can't'. Saying they can't change is based upon what we know now and sets a defeatists attitude for future research for a cure or control of unwanted desires.

In my opinion society should have counseling available to those who have not acted on urges or desires with a guarantee of anonymity. This might actually keep some children from being exploited.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Most people that have sexual desires that run contrary to societal norms find themselves lonely, isolated and afraid.
As is with all of us, they seek out others that share their feelings. The internet has made it possible for people who normally would keep their proclivities hidden to put on a mask of anonymity and express their true feelings to others of the same ilk.

When I started seeing a therapist last year I was warned that if I said anything that meant I could do harm to myself or others that it would be reported. My problem was depression and anger. I found myself being careful as to how I expressed myself so I wouldn't be taken away by the men in white coats.

Now, imagine a person with unwanted sexual desires towards children trying to find help being told on his first visit that if he expressed any thing threatening that he would be 'turned in'. I highly doubt that he would come clean. This doesn't give him a ticket to fulfill his wants, but it should help us understand the horrible burden of being the lowest of the low.

Pure speculation on my part tells me that people with no outlet for these desires and with no support will seek an outlet, the internet makes it all too convenient.

I don't like words such as 'never' and 'can't'. Saying they can't change is based upon what we know now and sets a defeatists attitude for future research for a cure or control of unwanted desires.

In my opinion society should have counseling available to those who have not acted on urges or desires with a guarantee of anonymity. This might actually keep some children from being exploited.

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I'm all for solutions vs condemnation when it comes to people who have proclivities towards kids, I'd be lying if I said you weren't partially right. Which of course leaves a can of worms insomuch as what if they can't be rehabilitated and trusted around kids?

 

[peeonme]

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I'm all for solutions vs condemnation when it comes to people who have proclivities towards kids, I'd be lying if I said you weren't partially right. Which of course leaves a can of worms insomuch as what if they can't be rehabilitated and trusted around kids?

I think that part of the condition for receiving treatment would be the condition that they not work with children.
Another would be an agreement that they would agree to call or contact a case worker if they are in a position where they feel that they might act out.
Along with that an agreement to produce all digital internet devices for inspection upon demand.

If some kind of a system could keep some children from being violated and keep some men out of prison it would be worth the effort.
What we do now does not keep children safe, it punishes those that harm them. After the damage is done.
My whole point is that new avenues need to be explored.

 

[KaraBulut]

I think that part of the condition for receiving treatment would be the condition that they not work with children.

Something to think about...

There isn't a known treatment because the topic is verboten and almost everything about it is illegal. As it is now, if someone were to seek treatment, any mention of sexual activity with minors or possession of underage content is reportable. And that usually results in being listed on the sexual offender registry for a lifetime.

We can't study it, much less treat it.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I think that part of the condition for receiving treatment would be the condition that they not work with children.
Another would be an agreement that they would agree to call or contact a case worker if they are in a position where they feel that they might act out.
Along with that an agreement to produce all digital internet devices for inspection upon demand.

If some kind of a system could keep some children from being violated and keep some men out of prison it would be worth the effort.
What we do now does not keep children safe, it punishes those that harm them. After the damage is done.
My whole point is that new avenues need to be explored.

So this is how the other side handles their problems, sympathy and treatment are stressed over incarceration. Can't wait to tell the homies about this. but also

 

[Telstra]

So child abuse is a choice but
Pedophilia is not a choice according to this. If help or treatment is not offered, it is societie's fault.

 

[Telstra]

Actually while we are stoning the dead into more dead,
could anyone name 1 of Mark Salling's direct victim ?

 

[gsdx]

Actually while we are stoning the dead into more dead,
could anyone name 1 of Mark Salling's direct victim ?

They were children for fuck's sake! Do you want pictures, too?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Actually while we are stoning the dead into more dead,
could anyone name 1 of Mark Salling's direct victim ?

Are you requesting his library of pornographic images of children?

 

[Telstra]

They were children for fuck's sake! Do you want pictures, too?

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Stop stalking ... stalker.

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Are you requesting his library of pornographic images of children?

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[gsdx]

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Stop stalking ... stalker.

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Get serious, mate. You asked us to name one of his victims, and They Are Children!!! How perverted can you get to want to know which little kid was molested so Salling could blow a load looking at him or her?

 

[HoodedRat]

Actually while we are stoning the dead into more dead,
could anyone name 1 of Mark Salling's direct victim ?

Fucking hell ! I swear you get weirder by the day!
They were children you fucking moron!