Healthcare going forward

[KaraBulut]

 

[frankfrank]

And the Republican's embrace of this current path...is nothing but sheer hypocrisy.

Were you expecting anything less from the most hypocritical organization of human beings that has ever existed on this planet?

...but I accepted that the only "reform" they could pass was the Republican one.

Really the first major healthcare bill that purported to cover all or nearly all people, and it took something like SEVENTY YEARS to get something passed. Medicare and Medicaid preceded it by decades, of course, but those programs wee never designed to cover more than "some" people.

 

[rareboy]

So their first effort at BRCA failed last night.

Today it is apparently going to be Repeal only, which is also destined to fail.

And then on Friday, 'Skinny Repeal' gets voted on.

 

[Benvolio]

So their first effort at BRCA failed last night.

Today it is apparently going to be Repeal only, which is also destined to fail.

And then on Friday, 'Skinny Repeal' gets voted on.

Ah, well. I always thought they should let Obamacare fail of its internal flaws before they try to start something new. Or not.

 

[KaraBulut]

This is feeling more and more like the Terri Schiavo episode.

 

[rareboy]

So clean repeal has failed as expected as well now.

So time to get ready for skinny repeal which still looks to kick 15 million off the insurance rolls and jack up the costs of premiums so that billionaires can get a tax break.

There is so much confusion now about what the bill will contain that it is possible it will pass....if only to help gut Medicaid and so that Trump will be able to claim a YUGE victory.

 

[Kulindahr]

That is not my point, although I get it. I'm advocating proactive medical care. We're all in the Big Picture and ER is expensive for everyone.

I would call helping figure out how someone can avoid becoming homeless in order to help the mom "proactive medical care" -- especially as opposed to rudely and coldly insisting "We get your house!"

One of my doctors tried to make this point to the Social Security disability people, that depending on the affliction, how the bureaucrats behave toward them is a medical matter. Even though he'd lost a few patients to suicide due to the actions of the Social Security disability people, they didn't seem to care.

 

[Kulindahr]

I think there's also a group of Republican women senators who really have an interest in the welfare of the citizens they serve. Capito, Collins, and Murkowski have been focused more upon the people who elected them and less upon special interest issues. There's some male Senators (from both parties, but the pressure is on the Republican Senators) from swing states who get that removing healthcare benefits from "the lesser among us" isn't good PR and definitely not the way to get re-elected.

I have a new definition to propose for "too big to fail": any business that it large enough to be able to contribute enough to a politician to sway that politician on issues is too big to fail -- or, rather, it's too big to be allowed to exist.

 

[Kulindahr]

... we have had the Republicans working to preserve our free enterprise economy...

Regardless of repetition, that's still false: the GOP wants corporatist capitalism, which is contrary to a free market.

 

[KaraBulut]

 

[gsdx]

^ Great, and thanks again for that YouPak tip.

 

[KaraBulut]

So far, Boehner has been on the mark with his predictions:

 

[DantheManFL]

Alaska's senators receive 'troubling message' from Trump administration

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's choices on health care could have repercussions for her state

The Alaska Dispatch News reported Wednesday night that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke called Murkowski and fellow Alaskan Sen. Dan Sullivan (R) after Tuesday’s health care vote to let them know her position had put some of their state-specific projects in jeopardy ― particularly those pertaining to energy.

Sullivan told the outlet that Zinke’s phone call carried a “troubling message,” and the interior secretary made it clear to him that the call was in response to Murkowski voting no on the motion to proceed on Tuesday.

http://www.wesh.com/article/alaskas-senators-receive-troubling-message-from-trump-administration/10370214

Doesn't that sound like Extortion?

 

[gsdx]

Doesn't that sound like Extortion?

I read that yesterday, and it sounded to me as much more than bullying. My first thought was 'blackmail', but 'extortion' is a better word.

I can't believe all the things he does don't add up to a blowjob.

Seriously.

 

[DantheManFL]

Very Mafia like, isn't it?

The Center for Western Priorities, self-described as a nonpartisan conservation and advocacy organization, used Mafia film "The Godfather" as a comparison in a condemnation of the reported calls.

“Ryan Zinke is revealing himself as Trump’s hitman. He’s now threatening to hold public lands and energy policy hostage over a health care bill," the center said in a statement. "This is the U.S. government, not the Corleone family. Congress and the administration should discuss America’s energy and lands policy on the merits, without mob-inspired threats from the Department of the Interior and the White House.”

 

[gsdx]

^ Let the memes begin.

 

[ballcaphair]

^ Let the memes begin.

This is worth a couple of tweets at least. I say this with a heavy heart: ^ Let the memes begin.

 

[gsdx]

(I made this one. Feel free to share if you have somewhere to share it.)

 

[Kulindahr]

Well, if he wants to play like the Mafia, he shouldn't be surprised if someone puts out a contract on him.

 

[gsdx]

^ John Gotti thought he was invincible as well, but, in the end, the best lawyers money could buy couldn't keep the Teflon Don out of prison.