Healthcare going forward

[Benvolio]

Social security doesn't care what your political party is, and it doesn't rely on other taxpayers. And despite the lies from both parties, it isn't broke -- it is at present the best-funded function of the federal government.

Nevertheless, the people who pay more into SS and have savings are required to pay income taxes on the benefits, and pay more for Medicare because democrats, supported mostly by the minorities, and being Marxists, see Social Security and Medicare as another chance to impose equality, benefiting democrats at the expense of Republicans.

 

[KaraBulut]

Damn, the quota has gone up again!

They're running a buy-one-get-one-free special.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Isn't it ironic that the same people who want to continuing aborting babies by the tens of millions also want to pay others to have them?

Isn't it ironic that you claim to care about these aborted babies but don't give a shit about them when they are actually living?

 

[Benvolio]

Isn't it ironic that you claim to care about these aborted babies but don't give a shit about them when they are actually living?

No, you are incorrect in thinking that only communists and socialists care for people. We do not have to choose between killing babies and supporting their families on welfare, generation after generation. There is a lot of room between your extremes.

 

[rareboy]

I suggest that we add more dollars to Healthcare and make it the best anywhere. ObamaCare is dead - the Republicans will do much better!

Okay,

So let me get this straight.

At the same time that the GOP and the WhiteHouse are proposing plans that would literally gut healthcare for tens of millions in the US, Trump actually has the temerity or utter cluelessness to tweet this out?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/868979531641741313

 

[ballcaphair]

Okay,

So let me get this straight.

At the same time that the GOP and the WhiteHouse are proposing plans that would literally gut healthcare for tens of millions in the US, Trump actually has the temerity or utter cluelessness to tweet this out?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/868979531641741313

Clueless is exact. I am glad to see him use the term Republicans. Republicans are no longer Conservatives. I personally hate it, as a Conservative, when people equate them.

 

[Kulindahr]

Nevertheless, the people who pay more into SS and have savings are required to pay income taxes on the benefits, and pay more for Medicare because democrats, supported mostly by the minorities, and being Marxists, see Social Security and Medicare as another chance to impose equality, benefiting democrats at the expense of Republicans.

Taxes on Social Security come thanks to the GOP, who voted for them and then Ronald Reagan signed them into law.

And again, Social Security doesn't care about your party, only about your income.

 

[Kulindahr]

Okay,

So let me get this straight.

At the same time that the GOP and the WhiteHouse are proposing plans that would literally gut healthcare for tens of millions in the US, Trump actually has the temerity or utter cluelessness to tweet this out?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/868979531641741313

The crazy thing is that he could be right if the GOP would just wake up and be conservatives again: put a 0.1% tax on financial transactions, retroactive to the start of the year, and shortly after Trump's (first) term ends the national debt would be paid off. WIthout all those billions going to interest payments, adding more dollars to health care would be easy.

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Clueless is exact. I am glad to see him use the term Republicans. Republicans are no longer Conservatives. I personally hate it, as a Conservative, when people equate them.

And Republicans are no longer republicans.

 

[ballcaphair]

The crazy thing is that he could be right if the GOP would just wake up and be conservatives again: put a 0.1% tax on financial transactions, retroactive to the start of the year, and shortly after Trump's (first) term ends the national debt would be paid off. WIthout all those billions going to interest payments, adding more dollars to health care would be easy.

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And Republicans are no longer republicans.

How true! In my heart I think both parties are the swamp and mr trump really doesn't represent either. He also does not represent his faithful base. The whole spectral has been costly. Now there is this sideshow that confounds nearly everyone. I do not think we are getting our money's worth. "The ship of state is sinking; save congressmen and lobbyists first!"

 

[KaraBulut]

Mylan at it again...

EpiPen maker blasted for paying top exec $98 million
Mylan's EpiPen price hikes made it the face of corporate greed last summer. Now, the drug maker is lavishing a top exec with an eye-popping pay package.

Despite the EpiPen scandal and a slumping stock price, Mylan (MYL) rewarded chairman and former CEO Robert Coury with $98 million for 2016.

 

[rareboy]

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=ee4fbaf06461d43f0871e46e5b5304e4&oe=59E7DE95

 

[Stardreamer]

So now this is an interesting twist, Trump is asking the Senate to swing the Healthcare bill back towards the left? If he came out actually pushing the bill to be what he promised that would be fantastic but the Right will hate it.

But he made clear that the Senate needs to pass a bill that Republicans are able to more easily defend and is not viewed as an attack on Americans from low-income households, as the House bill has been portrayed by critics, the sources said. He also advocated more robust tax credits for people who buy insurance on the individual market, a move that would increase the bill’s cost.

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), who is pushing the Senate to slow the repeal of Medicaid expansion, indicated Trump is concerned about the people who are enrolled in the program for low-income Americans.

“He talked about the need to take care of people,” Portman said of the president.

Trump knocks House health care bill as too harsh

 

[KaraBulut]

So now this is an interesting twist, Trump is asking the Senate to swing the Healthcare bill back towards the left? If he came out actually pushing the bill to be what he promised that would be fantastic but the Right will hate it.

That's mostly PR coming from the White House Press Office. They leaked that Trump met with the Senate and said that the House bill was "too mean". Other than that, his talk with the Senators was his usual empty tripe using meaningless words like "great" and "terrific". There's no indication that he's learned anything about the healthcare system in the US since he had his little celebration after the House passed the AHCA.

There's little that the Senate could do that would make the bill "more right", so "more left" seems the only logical conclusion. Susan Collins (a former State insurance regulator) seems to be the only subject matter in the group of 13 Republicans who are writing the bill.

The bill will be whatever Mitch McConnell wants it to be and he's determined to get it written (behind closed doors in Republican-only meetings) and passed (with only Republican votes probably) before the July 4th recess.

 

[Sausy]

At best, a slightly improved "mean" health care system. But move too generously and watch the wrath of the "Freedom Caucus" come down on it because it would essentially be a weakened form of what they repealed... "Obamacare Lite".

 

[smokeshadow]

Conservatives in the Senate are trying to pass a Health Care bill that very few outside a select circle of Senators have even read. . .no discussion or debates from qualified experts, no input from the medical community nor the medical professional organizations and associations, no input or outrage from liberals and it has been cobbled together in less time than it took the entire Congress to originally read the ACA. . .it will gut the pre-existing conditions provisions provided by the ACA, people over 50 will see their premiums soar and women's health coverages will take a hit

http://americablog.com/2017/06/next-week-republicans-will-gut-work-health-insurance.html

 

[gsdx]

I can't remember a government so blatantly and deviously underhanded as this one. What happened to Trump's promise to give the government back to the people? So far, he's done all he can to lock them out and keep them in the dark. This is NOT a government for the people (except for those who can afford to play golf all day).

 

[Kulindahr]

Conservatives in the Senate are trying to pass a Health Care bill that very few outside a select circle of Senators have even read. . .no discussion or debates from qualified experts, no input from the medical community nor the medical professional organizations and associations, no input or outrage from liberals and it has been cobbled together in less time than it took the entire Congress to originally read the ACA. . .it will gut the pre-existing conditions provisions provided by the ACA, people over 50 will see their premiums soar and women's health coverages will take a hit

http://americablog.com/2017/06/next-week-republicans-will-gut-work-health-insurance.html

I wonder if any of them realize that there are people starting to look at them as being possible subjects for a "Second Amendment remedy". I'm seeing hints of that on a couple of blogs where some former Trump supporters are VERY angry because they didn't vote for him to have the GOP sell them out to the wealthy.

 

[Kulindahr]

I can't remember a government so blatantly and deviously underhanded as this one. What happened to Trump's promise to give the government back to the people? So far, he's done all he can to lock them out and keep them in the dark. This is NOT a government for the people (except for those who can afford to play golf all day).

Part of it is that he pays so little attention to what's happening that the GOP in Congress has no regard at all for what he may actually want; they see him as a rubber-stamper for whatever they can get away with.

 

[Sausy]

It's amazing(in the "not good at all" way) that the Senate version, while a little less nasty in scope at first may actually be long term far worse and cut even deeper than the Trump described "mean" House version. As much flak as Democrats got for the ACA, it was fairly well produced in terms of how much info was publicly available... this Republican effort has been nearly completely kept out of any public review. Not a big Nancy Pelosi fan at all but when she got lambasted by Republicans for allegedly saying that they had to pass the ACA legislation first to know what was in it, in truth they completely misrepresented the context and it was nowhere as sinister or callous. Passing the ACA was a veritable example of sunshine on the legislative process compared to this whole GOP debacle being pushed through in just about complete secrecy.

What it is really is a huge tax cut for wealthier Americans as more burdens and strains are put on those who would have a much harder time keeping afloat if there was a major family health crisis. It isn't just Trump but the entire set of priorities for the GOP that is at war with the interests of the vast majority of Americans, and particularly the most vulnerable.

 

[Benvolio]

Wow! I am amazed at you psychic ability. No one has read it but you know all about it. LOL,LOL. Like most legislation, it requires compromise so at this point there is no specific bill. Wait and see.