Hilary Clinton for President?

[Benvolio]

Hilary is the ideal candidate for she has experience that challenges anything the other party can propose as a candidate. I have no doubt that many Republicans will be voting for Hilary having understood that her experience matters......whereas, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz reveal the many weaknesses implicit in candidates lacking vital experience where it is most needed.

What experience did Obama have? Carter? Clinton? Under our popularity contest, experience is a negative.

 

[Benvolio]

Actually, Hillary seems the more reasonable and predictable of the dem candidates and I would prefer to see her elected over the probable alternatives. And I prefer her as the dem nominee, because she is more vulnerable and less likely to be elected than some.

 

[kallipolis]

What experience did Obama have? Carter? Clinton? Under our popularity contest, experience is a negative.

I am merely addressing your earlier post that castigates Hilary for her apparent lack of experience:

I quote you here:

Democrats prefer a fantasy candidate: a new comer with no history, a nice smile, good looking, good TelePrompTer reader; a blank slate upon which they can project their fond hopes and fantasies.

Hilary does not fit this profile.

 

[TX-Beau]

I am merely addressing your earlier post that castigates Hilary for her apparent lack of experience:

I quote you here:



Hilary does not fit this profile.

Yeah but the actor and the deserter had lots and lots and lots of "experience!"

I can always count on Ben for a good laugh.

 

[kallipolis]

Actually, Hillary seems the more reasonable and predictable of the dem candidates and I would prefer to see her elected over the probable alternatives. And I prefer her as the dem nominee, because she is more vulnerable and less likely to be elected than some.

These attributes make her an attractive, and highly electable candidate...unless, one is biased against her in depth experience....I do not need to print her Curriculum Vitae here.

 

[mightbe]

Hillary is not really the best woman for the job.. she's all the bad of Obama and other Clinton all at once. Warren would've been better, but it seems like Hillary will most likely get the nomination. She'd be formidable president--effective--but maybe not what I would like to see. She lives in the crotches of Wall Street and her foreign policy ideas (from her track record in the Senate) don't strike me as particularly good for the US.

But I'll take Hillary as a consolation prize if it means she'll be nominating SCOTUS justices instead of the loony crowd on the right.

 

[Benvolio]

I am merely addressing your earlier post that castigates Hilary for her apparent lack of experience:

I quote you here:



Hilary does not fit this profile.

Hillary does not fit that profile, and that is, in part, why I am predicting that O'Malley will be the nominee. Her experience provides more negatives than positives. But I do not think that I have ever "castigated" her lack of experience.

 

[kallipolis]

Hillary does not fit that profile, and that is, in part, why I am predicting that O'Malley will be the nominee. Her experience provides more negatives than positives. But I do not think that I have ever "castigated" her lack of experience.

From my reading of her track record, her Curriculum Vitae speaks volumes...that she is in deed, admirably qualified to become the next POTUS.... I appreciate that your interpretation of her political experience is much more focused on what she has yet to achieve....Hilary will fit into the Oval Office with great comfort for her political acumen speaks of a person who is at ease when facing crisis, after crisis...including those of a personal nature instigated by her husband.

 

[Benvolio]

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From my reading of her track record, her Curriculum Vitae speaks volumes...that she is in deed, admirably qualified to become the next POTUS.... I appreciate that your interpretation of her political experience is much more focused on what she has yet to achieve....Hilary will fit into the Oval Office with great comfort for her political acumen speaks of a person who is at ease when facing crisis, after crisis...including those of a personal nature instigated by her husband.

Can you name one actual accomplishment? I don't mean achieving a title or position, but an actual accomplishment?

 

[kallipolis]

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Can you name one actual accomplishment? I don't mean achieving a title or position, but an actual accomplishment?

Her experience as secretary of state, senator, and wife of a former POTUS encourages me to understand that her accomplishments were achieved in those roles....enabling her to assume the role of POTUS with years of political experience under her belt, to stand her in good stead....

Is it necessary to compare her political experience, with Megas Alexandros who conquered Persia?

 

[palemale]

Hillary does not fit that profile, and that is, in part, why I am predicting that O'Malley will be the nominee. Her experience provides more negatives than positives. But I do not think that I have ever "castigated" her lack of experience.

The prospect of an O'Malley presidency must terrify you. He's Irish Catholic, progressive and will taking his marching orders from the Pope and the bishops.

 

[Benvolio]

Her experience as secretary of state, senator, and wife of a former POTUS encourages me to understand that her accomplishments were achieved in those roles....enabling her to assume the role of POTUS with years of political experience under her belt, to stand her in good stead....

Is it necessary to compare her political experience, with Megas Alexandros who conquered Persia?

Titles and positions, but no accomplishments.

 

[Benvolio]

The prospect of an O'Malley presidency must terrify you. He's Irish Catholic, progressive and will taking his marching orders from the Pope and the bishops.

He favors massive immigration as requested by his bishop, even though his own state already has large scale poverty and unemployment. How can more poor people be good for his state or the country?

 

[kallipolis]

Titles and positions, but no accomplishments.

For me her experience is the accomplishment of those who serve in political office...she fits this profile...while appreciating she has a few hurdles to leap including being female, and the wife of a former POTUS....I also recognize that she is has a very aggressive personality that not a few might consider a pre requisite when assuming the office of POTUS....for saintly people need not apply...

 

[opinterph]

… his own state already has large scale poverty and unemployment.

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[Benvolio]

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Thanks. 15% poverty rate for SC..

 

[JayHawk]

All politicians look the other way when it suits them.

Glad to see my POV still quite deftly represented.

Hillary or not Hillary comes down to whatever creature is squeezed out of the sphincter of the republican primary process.

 

[opinterph]

Thanks. 15% poverty rate for SC..

Martin O'Malley is an American politician who served as the 61st Governor of Maryland.

 

[Latimer]

She is the most qualified and the best choice of any candidate in my opinion.

Her marriage is of no interest to me. I haven't a clue as to what she's actually accomplished other than be elected to and sit in the Senate and be appointed and serve as Secretary of State. The titles are impressive, but what did she do in those positions, what is her legacy? Not much as far as I can tell.

She needs to follow Margaret Thatcher's example and learn how to speak effectively in public. I can't stand hearing her voice; I can't stand listening to her speak.

Barack Obama may have had a similarly shallow resume', but at least he knows how to give a speech.

She'll only win if the Republicans put up a worse candidate.

 

[frankfrank]

Actually, Hillary seems the more reasonable and predictable of the dem candidates and I would prefer to see her elected over the probable alternatives. And I prefer her as the dem nominee, because she is more vulnerable and less likely to be elected than some.

With that in mind...

CHENEY/PALIN IN 2016!!

Warren would've been better

Hillary... lives in the crotches of Wall Street

But I'll take Hillary as a consolation prize if it means she'll be nominating SCOTUS justices instead of the loony crowd on the right.

Absolutely I'd take Warren as a strong preference, exceeded only by Bernie Sanders (who is NOT gonna happen).

And, certainly true, she is massively a globalist and corporatist. I'm not sure there's ever been a megacorporation or a multinational that she didn't like. Probably not even Monsanto...

I intensely prefer her probably SCOTUS nominees over any conceivable nominee that any of the Republican ones that are likely to happen even under the most wonderful circumstances. Under ANY Republican SCOTUS nominees, it wouldn't take long at all - only enough time for a new case to work up to the Supreme Court, a few years - for Roe v. Wade to certainly be turned back, and almost as certainly ALL the rights (such as marriage) that we as GLBT people have earned, as well as any other rights we hope to earn in the near future. With the Gerrymandering, I am convinced that GLBT people will not have any national civil rights (via legislation in Washington), of any kind, in the lifetimes of anybody who is currently on JUB.

Because, they say that GLBT is entirely about sex, AIDS, sex, sex, sluttiness, promiscuity, cheating, and even more sex, and nothing else at all, don'cha know.