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Hillary says she will help struggling Americans. Why Should We Believe that she would?

jbrown329 said:
Putin was KGB and is still KGB. Don't like SCOTUS? Let's overturn Loving v Virginia, the rest of the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act and EVERY other progressive thing that the court has done.
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Voting Rights ACT and Civil Rights ACT are called act because they are acts passed by Congress not decisions of the court. Remember, the court has killed millions of African American children by the big lie called Roe v Wade.
 
Benvolio said:
Voting Rights ACT and Civil Rights ACT are called act because they are acts passed by Congress not decisions of the court. Remember, the court has killed millions of African American children by the big lie called Roe v Wade.
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SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act.
 
Hankerin1075 said:
My simple statements and assertions have been twisted around like a kite string. Settle down folks. I'm not some elitist up on a pedestal. I'm a full time worker just trying to get a piece of the pie. What I think about wages is very simple and easy to understand. Some jobs are inherently low paying. Duh! Some demand higher pay. This is good and it is normal. When the waitress makes more than a cop or EMT, the world has gone bonkers. If minimum goes up a large amount, what about the people that have worked their asses off to get where they are? They get screwed. Now some kid flipping burgers makes half what you do for putting forth no effort to improve. It's insane.
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The waitresses don't even make the current excuse for minimum wage. Let alone a wage that....nevermind. Pointing things out to you is much like I imagine what pissing into the wind would accomplish. Your ignorance shames you. Bloody depressing.
 
gsdx said:
And what about the ones who aren't so 'good'?
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If it's such a good deal why isn't he advocating for his own paycheck to be two bucks n'change per hour. I assume he considers himself an exquisite cog in the workforce; why, I'm sure he could get well above 2 sumthin' for being so grand when everyone is forced to live from tips!

Y'know, since he wants to judge on 'merit'. And I use the word so loosely it doesn't really apply.
 
gsdx said:
And what about the ones who aren't so 'good'?
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If they aren't able to make enough in tips, I guess they would find another place or another line of work. Not everyone is cut out for that type of work.
 
luckynumbah7 said:
If it's such a good deal why isn't he advocating for his own paycheck to be two bucks n'change per hour. I assume he considers himself an exquisite cog in the workforce; why, I'm sure he could get well above 2 sumthin' for being so grand when everyone is forced to live from tips!

Y'know, since he wants to judge on 'merit'. And I use the word so loosely it doesn't really apply.
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If I didn't want that kind of pay scenario I sure wouldn't be looking for that kind of job.
 
Hankerin1075 said:
If they aren't able to make enough in tips, I guess they would find another place or another line of work. Not everyone is cut out for that type of work.
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And many have very little choice. And if they're not very good at the job, it's very likely they would be fired before they quit. They need the job. They need the money, even if they don't earn a single penny in tips. Just like commission sales, it is little more than legalised slavery.

If you do some homework, you'll see that waiters and waitresses earn an average of $7 to $13 per hour in tips. But, since it's unlikely that you will do your homework, I've done it for you: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/how-much-do-waiters-really-earn-in-tips/385515/
 
gsdx said:
And many have very little choice. And if they're not very good at the job, it's very likely they would be fired before they quit. They need the job. They need the money, even if they don't earn a single penny in tips. Just like commission sales, it is little more than legalised slavery.

If you do some homework, you'll see that waiters and waitresses earn an average of $7 to $13 per hour in tips. But, since it's unlikely that you will do your homework, I've done it for you: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/how-much-do-waiters-really-earn-in-tips/385515/
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According to what you've said, a waitress takes home an average of between 9.50-15.50 per hour. That's not too shabby.
 
^ Maybe for a single person. Not so great for a working mother trying to feed her children, especially if she's paying babysitters or daycare while she's earning tips.
 
gsdx said:
^ Maybe for a single person. Not so great for a working mother trying to feed her children, especially if she's paying babysitters or daycare while she's earning tips.
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Kids sure do make things tight. I'm one of six and I know my parents were pinching pennies into foil to keep us fed at times.
 
Hankerin1075 said:
Do you understand tipping or is that a totally foreign concept? A good waitress will make well above minimum. Use your head.
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Where I'm from there's a minimum wage of around $15 per hour and no taxation on expected tips for wait staff.
A good waiter or waitress here also makes more than the minimum (service is pretty good too).
 
Hankerin1075 said:
If I didn't want that kind of pay scenario I sure wouldn't be looking for that kind of job.
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This absolutely assumes that there is an abundant choice of employment. You may not live somewhere you get much choice about who's hiring - let alone whether there are higher paying options just going begging. You may live somewhere that even getting a second job is going to be a challenge. There are a lot of factors involved than just personal ones.

I'd like to know where you live that 15 dollars an hour is a living wage? Regardless of the hourly rate - you could make 300 dollars an hour and still be fucked if you only got one hour a month - the real wage is aggregate monthly income. What do Denny's waitresses make in a month? Are they allowed enough hours to qualify for benefits?

I'm always surprised when people put all the responsibility on the worker, and none on the employer. Without the waitresses the CEO of Denny's doesn't get his six figure salary.
 
TX-Beau said:
This absolutely assumes that there is an abundant choice of employment. You may not live somewhere you get much choice about who's hiring - let alone whether there are higher paying options just going begging. You may live somewhere that even getting a second job is going to be a challenge. There are a lot of factors involved than just personal ones.

I'd like to know where you live that 15 dollars an hour is a living wage? Regardless of the hourly rate - you could make 300 dollars an hour and still be fucked if you only got one hour a month - the real wage is aggregate monthly income. What do Denny's waitresses make in a month? Are they allowed enough hours to qualify for benefits?

I'm always surprised when people put all the responsibility on the worker, and none on the employer. Without the waitresses the CEO of Denny's doesn't get his six figure salary.
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6 figure salary? It would be a 7 or 10 figure salary.
 
TX-Beau said:
This absolutely assumes that there is an abundant choice of employment. You may not live somewhere you get much choice about who's hiring - let alone whether there are higher paying options just going begging. You may live somewhere that even getting a second job is going to be a challenge. There are a lot of factors involved than just personal ones.

I'd like to know where you live that 15 dollars an hour is a living wage? Regardless of the hourly rate - you could make 300 dollars an hour and still be fucked if you only got one hour a month - the real wage is aggregate monthly income. What do Denny's waitresses make in a month? Are they allowed enough hours to qualify for benefits?

I'm always surprised when people put all the responsibility on the worker, and none on the employer. Without the waitresses the CEO of Denny's doesn't get his six figure salary.
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I absolutely do feel that 15/hr is a livable wage. At least in most of the country. I've lived on a lot less. More is almost always better of course, but not always necessary.

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jbrown329 said:
6 figure salary? It would be a 7 or 10 figure salary.
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This is true.
 
Hankerin1075 said:
I absolutely do feel that 15/hr is a livable wage. At least in most of the country. I've lived on a lot less. More is almost always better of course, but not always necessary.
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OK where is that? What about the rest of that post?
 
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