sixthson said:
What you are doing is pretty much the same thing except you haven't gotten to the grown up part. Before passing judgments on things you have not experienced, why not wait until you meet someone you like and get to know one another, slowly becoming intimate. You might be surprised what you will want to try. A hug might lead to a kiss. A kiss might lead to touching his ass which might lead to getting naked. You get the idea? You don't need to jump right into getting rimmed or fucked. There are so many things you can explore before heading into the more hardcore stuff. Also, you have a set image of how you want your romance to be with someone you have never met. Attraction can be a powerful thing and with it comes desire to express it, physically, emotionally, every way.
Those are good points. But I still find it kind of empowering that I don't necessarily need to have sexual intercourse with another person. I find that it takes a lot of pressure off me.
I've never had the feeling that any body parts were disgusting or anything - just very, very erotic.
Just saying.
I find that very hard to believe.
Axalon said:
Ummm...sexual intimacy tends to involve parts that are used in the bathroom: Penises, vaginas, anal sphincters...
Fluids, particulate matter. Urine and feces. Come on.
BostonPirate said:
straight people like anal sex too
just sayin
How many use it as the primary mode of sexual intercourse? Or at least, in the frequency that certain gay men make use of it.
splash_79 said:
I disagree. SGP or CU family?
I am sorry, but I am not convinced that you know enough of love, loving, sex and sexuality yet to make a qualified judgement about where you stand on your own sexuality.
Let alone pass judgement on Dutch gay culture/ community based on your very limited perceptions. Get rid of your preconceptions and start exploring instead of bitching.
SGP or CU? Neither, my parents used to vote 'PvdA'. Anyway, what does the Dutch gay community have to offer me? Saunas? Gay pride parades? Gay bars? None of these appeal to me.
bankside said:
Incidentally, any kind of sexual expression can be intruded upon by unpleasant biological realities. You should see what can come out of a vagina at the wrong time! And sadly, no matter what kind of sexual expression, timing makes a difference. Or perhaps I should say, happily!
Not so the same extent as with anal intercourse. Such an unpleasant biological reality would go beyond the pale in my view.
If thinking about that seems like a distraction that would stop you from enjoying it, then there is still oral sex. The urinary tract (semenary tract?) is ordinarily sterile, and semen itself is inherently compatible with transfer to another person due to its potential in reproduction. From a healthy person, it is fun to obtain, and contact or ingestion is not a problem.
I don't have issues with semen.
So perhaps finding someone healthy is a necessary criteria for enjoying sex? I share that with my guy. We are both free of disease and since we are monogamous, unless one of us is raped or is stabbed by a lunatic with a blood-filled syringe, there is no likely mechanism for either of us to become infected.
I would not be well-disposed to an open relationship either. Where did you meet your guy?
I'm not sure what you mean by roles. Do you mean sexually? We share everything. To me that shared experience is part of getting to know someone I care about.
I meant, what kind of relationship do you guys have? Is one of you more masculine than the other. (In the train of 'opposites attracts'.)
By the way, HIV infection is coming down, though it has stubbornly plateaued. At least in Canadian data:
I think the reason it is not falling further is a return to the mentality of the earlier generation that it can be treated so it is not such a big problem any more. That is ridiculous, but again that risk only affects people with that mentality, or those who choose to sleep with them. Neither I nor my man take that approach.
I just don't like the fact that homosexual men are overrepresented in HIV transmission rates in Western countries. And since I'm only beginning to come to terms with my homosexuality, it's of serious consideration to me.
G-Lexington said:
He was my roommate in college. But back then, he was "straight" and dating, and I was still trying to figure it all out. We got together a few years later. It didn't work out in the long run, but that's OK - I learned a lot.
I see that your current status is 'partnered'. Where did you find your current partner?
WillMc88 said:
Wrong. There is plenty of empirical evidence on the use of prostate massage. Google is your friend.
Also, speaking from experience, it is entirely possible to have an anal orgasm. Orgasms aren't just about sensory feeling, they're about perception. And seeing as how the brain is a vital sexual organ, one can derive pleasure from a host of different stimulation based on how it is perceived.
Btw, you're making arguments against sex, not gay sex.
But what is your definition of an 'anal orgasm'? I've heard these claims before, and they do not tend to correspond with the mental image that one would normally have with the concept of 'anal orgasm'.
stutter032 said:
He broke his leg like a week after and had to leave. But my point is, you don't know until you try it. Even then it might not be enjoyable because of the person your doing it with.
And you didn't have any anal tears? You were already playing with dildos by then?
Oatcookies said:
Some things require more timing beforehand and some things require less. Vaginas sometimes need douching, penises need to be cleaned. Is it inconvenient for some people? Sure. You have to make the choice of "is this time spent preparing worth the outcome of what I am preparing for?".
Tyra Banks? Really? Anyway, the anorectal region is never going to be fully clean. Regardless of the hygiene regimen that you would apply.
Iwantbig said:
So you came on this forum to tell what percentage of us that we are disgusting ?
You want to have a " Gay " relationship with a " man " for the companionship ?
If you could get it " up " for woman you'd be in a relation ship right now ( and better off )?
Is your real problem that you dick dont get hard and you are trying to find a pigeon hole to hide in ?
I have to say that your original post was one of the most fucked up , unimformed pieces of dribble i have ever read !
How about you fuck off , change your name and come back and start off with an honest revelation of your fuckedupness , and leave it at " i'm not into ORAL or ANAL ".
How was it 'uninformed' and/or 'fucked up'? Also, you might want to re-read my original post, if this is really the 'gist' that you got out of it.
Marco Sensual said:
Anybody can guess that you most likely dont like gay pride parades,men in leather,gay clubs,you think fisting is a gay thing,ass are dirty and cant receive a cock inside because you know what comes from there,ect...
Why should gay parades, leather fetishes, clubbing, fisting and anal sex be mandatory parts of the 'gay experience'? Seriously, by the way, 'fisting'? I've seen the videos, and I've seen what it does to the anorectal region. You would need a diaper at age thirty.
If you really think that you will find a gay man who only wants to love you without sex,you will be disappointed.Men who are in relationships expect sex.
In my introductory post I stated that I realized that a relationship would involve more than companionship.
asu1117 said:
He effectively insulted every gay person with his ignorance, which is obviously fueled by self loathing.
What ignorance would that be?
rareboy said:
The one choice you're not going to be able to exercise without aggressive challenge, though, is making repeated threads or even posts about how disgusting you find the idea of homosexuality or the act of homosexual sexual activities.
I didn't have any expectations when I made this thread, I just wanted to vent my spleen and perhaps interact with other gay men.
If it were me, and I wanted to continue to participate in these forums after posting something so unnecessarily provocative and negative directed at the members of the homo community, at this stage, I would probably say that everyone had provided really thought provoking and challenging advice and that I now realize that somewhere along the line, some developmental influence or even my own neuro-chemical imbalances and/or less than optimal state of mental health may have allowed me to slide into an existentially impoverished abyss.
While I appreciate the thought and effort that you put into this post, I would have to cordially decline the invitation.
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Perhaps a good question would be how many accidents you guys have had? (Not that I really want to know.)