THAT'S THE PROBLEM! She's against it now because of the way it turned out! That's not a good reason to be against a war that never should have started.
If the Iraq war was a rosy and easy as Bush thought it would be, Clinton would be calling herself a war time president who makes "bold decisions." It's so obvious to people that see through her bullshit. Her two faced-ness is SOOO obvious.
Remember bin Laden?
Ditto. Hillary does what is best for Hillary's political career. Not for the country.
She didn't leave Bill Clinton after the Lewinsky Scandal because that would mean giving up the powers of being First Lady. She voted for the Iraq War because she sensed the country wanted a War. Therefore, even though she was privy to more information than quite obviously the citizens of this country, she went with it ... and has supported the Iraq War ever since. Up until now, of course, when she has a chance at being elected. Then, of course, the tide changes. She's had plenty of time to change her mind on it, but not until recently has she denounced the War ... when she began running a Campaign for President of the United States. Where was she from 2003 on?
And apparently it sits well with her supporters that she voted to label the Iranian Guard a Terrorist Group, as well. For all the Bush bashing from the Hillary supporters, her voting record sure aligns to his goals. Once again, I suppose poor Hillary was duped. But hey, Hillary's a Woman right, gay supporters of Hillary? So, let's give her a Free Pass on this one, too. After all, saying otherwise is no way to treat a woman. Right, NickCole?
Originally Posted by Lostlover
For all the feminist sympathizers here, well, it's just sad. The media likes to portray gays as women and feminine. Well what I've seen here gives credence to such ignorant statements.
LostLover hit the nail on the head. Voters within the Gay Community who are voting based on Gender are giving the Gay Community a horrendous name. Because it is you voters who are falling right into the typical Gay stereotype. What is it that only you Clinton supporters are seeing that the rest of the country ... Republicans AND Democrats ... apparently aren't seeing?
Again, LostLover is correct. Those members in the Gay Community are detached from reality and are living in a Fantasy World with your Feminist Agenda. What would be nice is if those within the Gay Community would actually rise above the stereotype and take the high road by supporting someone with far more character and integrity ... which obviously means nothing to you, since Hillary is a Woman and that is all that apparently matters.
For those that wish to defend Hillary as the nominee and take a stand that this has nothing to do with Gender, then I want you to do a couple of things.
First, take Hillary's political career ... all her past votes, all her fundraising scandals ... everything ... and put it in the body of Chris Dodd, (for example) or any male candidate, for that matter. For all intents and purposes, Hillary is also dropping the last name Clinton, as well ... for this exercise. Now, admit to me that all of the candidates, you would still be looking at this male candidate is still your #1 Candidate for President.
Second, defend all of her questionable votes, and explain them in a convincing manner. Why did Hillary vote for the Iraq War. Why did she vote against the Levin Amendment, if she was so much against the use of Force? Why did she continually vote to fund the War up until she began a run for the Presidency? And why did she vote to label the Iranian Guard a terrorist Group?
Next, I want you to explain with a straight face how Hillary can be a candidate for the Middle Class and how she can portray herself as such ... after taking the most money from Corporate Lobbyists of all the Presidential Candidates on both sides.
Explain to me why it sits well with you that Hillary has taken the most money again, of the Republicans and Democrats, from Defense Contractors ... especially given her past voting record?
Why does it sit well with you that FOX News is holding Fundraisers for Hillary Clinton and why even Conservatives like Ann Coulter say they would vote for Hillary Clinton?
Explain to all of us why Hillary's so-called "Experience" as First Lady should be taken into consideration when we, the voting Republic, still do not know what exactly that "experience" entailed. Furthermore, if you have the knowledge and wish to defend Hillary on the Experience front, tell us all exactly what she accomplished as First Lady, since apparently you are privy to information the rest of us are not.
Start giving legitimate explanations to some of these issues ... then maybe you won't be accused of being Feminist Voters who are voting based on Gender.