How much do you believe in KARMA?

[kallipolis]

^Mark Twain, on being asked what he thought of heaven and hell, replied, ''I'm not going to tell you ---- for I have friends in both places.'' I could go one better, for I have had experiences in both places; or rather, experiences in both such levels of consciousness.

It is our conscious awareness, or perceptions that create our heaven, or hell as joy, and misery are understood.

When contemplating our actions cause, and effect is our responsibility, and the consequences arising there from.

 

[MMMonsterBoy]

I feel that some people tend to have a simple minded way of thinking concerning karma. People assume if they give a poor person $5, that they'll stumble upon $5 later that day. I do believe in karma because it is a part of nature. In nature, both beautiful things happen all the time...as do disasters. Life hints at the bigger picture all the time, and it may seem like there is no point to a bad experience there usually is...at least so I've discovered. What you put out, you get back. So karma, to me, does not impact just you. It impacts the people around you as well. I am not religious, but I am spiritual so I do believe life is bigger than just me.

 

[giftart]

In India, karma means if you do good in this life, you will be born rich, born handsome, born as a god ... etc depends on what you do.

And if you do bad, you will be born as a snake, a rat, a fly ... etc depends on how bad.
So karma is about the next life.

As a Buddhist, this is what karma is to us. In the afterlife.

 

[HoodedRat]

It is our conscious awareness, or perceptions that create our heaven, or hell as joy, and misery are understood.

Yes, I agree, the concepts of 'heaven' and 'hell' can ocassionally be useful terms to describe certain states of human consciousness.

When contemplating our actions cause, and effect is our responsibility, and the consequences arising there from.

No one else is responsible for our actions.

 

[zoltanspawn]

It's sort of funny to me to be asked, as I think of karma, 'do I believe our deeds have effects?' That's not really a question of belief, but seems rather plain. Yes, our deeds have effects. I also think it's plain that our deeds may make the world a better or a worse place.

On the other hand, I see no reason to include a supernatural component with karma. Nor do I think of the effects of karma as retribution or reward.

 

[barnbuddy]

since karma involves a belief in past lives and reincarnation, not at all

it's just another "justice" fantasy that helps 95% of human population deal with envy.

 

[Lefty]

KARMA????

Isn't that a City in

HELL????

 

[dingue]

i've had this conversation some time ago with some friends....
and my conclusion is i dont believe in karma because that would give the impression you have no controle over your life. ( like some god like creature has controle over you like a robot)
what i do believe in is destiny.
because that still leaves the idea of freedom of choice open and it has the concept of no god like creature has controle over your soul.

its hard to explane without getting into detail....

some people are born for hard living so they can teach you stuff you would never learn.
i never feld sorry for it.
not everybody was born to die a 99 year old millionaire!

 

[freefall]

What if you are in the car accident and you are dead.
Comes around what ?

It can mean that the car accident IS the effect of something you do. We don't know what, could be something you did just seconds before, years before, and (go cliche) lifes before, we never know.
And logically, the effects of one incident can be strong enough to be carried in the future, even after someone dies. Whether the effects are transmitted to someone, whether you believe s/he is the reincarnation of the previous dead one, it's up to you.

But don't forget about the one who caused the accident too. S/he gets the karma effect too...

 

[wonderwort]

Wow , this subject has been debated to the ground. I'm just gonna to add my FINAL anti-Karma rant.

It was very very dangerous for me to hold on my firm beliefs in Karma after I lost my boyfriend. (I've already shared the reason's why in my previous post).

It has been around four years after my boyfriends death since I STOPPED believing in Karma. The day after I stopped believing in Karma was the day I began to heal mentally , spiritually and physically.

After I stopped believing in Karma, I began to live again. Slowly yet surely I was able to laugh and enjoy life again . Joy and happiness began creeping its way into my life.

After I finally stopped believing in Karma, I finally began to feel FREE.

 

[rpflava]

Yes, I do strongly believe that the type of energy a person puts out into the world is the very same they'll eventually receive in return.
Whether it's good or bad, negative or positive....what goes around always comes back around.

I strongly agree!

 

[Telstra]

Wow , this subject has been debated to the ground. I'm just gonna to add my FINAL anti-Karma rant.

It was very very dangerous for me to hold on my firm beliefs in Karma after I lost my boyfriend. (I've already shared the reason's why in my previous post).

It has been around four years after my boyfriends death since I STOPPED believing in Karma. The day after I stopped believing in Karma was the day I began to heal mentally , spiritually and physically.

After I stopped believing in Karma, I began to live again. Slowly yet surely I was able to laugh and enjoy life again . Joy and happiness began creeping its way into my life.

After I finally stopped believing in Karma, I finally began to feel FREE.

What type of Karma did you believe?
Your dead bf born into a .... ?

 

[wonderwort]

What type of Karma did you believe?
Your dead bf born into a .... ?

I believed in Karma in it's most basic form (as I understand it) "good things happen to good people and vice versa".

I never knew re-incarnation was part of the Karma belief.

I dont believe in re-incarnation.

(Btw........I don't know what your intentions are......but the wording is very INSENSITIVE.)

 

[Telstra]

I believed in Karma in it's most basic form (as I understand it) "good things happen to good people and vice versa".

I never knew re-incarnation was part of the Karma belief.

I dont believe in re-incarnation.

(Btw........I don't know what your intentions are......but the wording is very INSENSITIVE.)

I don't have any intentions, that is how i write things.

Anyway, the "basic karma" is from India which states that what ever you do this life,
your next life will be rewarded or punished ...

 

[evanrick]

why did he suicide?

 

[wonderwort]

why did he suicide?

Depression and some other problems.

 

[wonderwort]

One FINAL anti -Karma rant......

I hate the concept of Karma more than anything in the whole entire world.

The concept of Karma made the world's most horrific trauma (losing my boyfriend to suicide) much much worse.

I HATE IT..........I HATE IT..........I HATE IT.

(There is NOTHING in the world worse than losing the love of my life (to suicide) two years after I donated a kidney.)

 

[Lefty]

What is in JUBS KARMA that would let this slanted biased and spirilingly irrelevant

thread exist in Hot Topics. From the start, half the posters have shown an almost total

lack of Karmic Law , fact or fiction. Mods, you have been derelict in your duties

by not having moved it to the Religion Spirituality and Philosophy Forum or giving it

closure and a Mass/Wake. There is a good chance that the other forum may have

some participants with cogent remarks, ideas or opinions...EH

just my karma to think and have a big mouth, in my last cycle I was a mute politician.

 

[Kulindahr]

just my karma to think and have a big mouth, in my last cycle I was a mute politician.

I'm not even going to try to torture my mind trying to imagine what that could have been a punishment for.....

 

[Lefty]

Don't strain Kuli, as part of my Karmic Debt to the Cosmos,

I have to tell how if someone shows confusion.

In the cyle preceding that one I was an indiscriminate, prolific

breeder and a user of illicit organic chemicals. Evidently, while in an

insane testosterone based orgy weekend of organics, wine and orgasms,

my tainted seed progenerated the precursive DNA strains for several

of our CE & P Icons.

Remember my friend, Karma is a part of the wheel of life... simply put

for the neophyte...what goes around...comes around