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How To Tell bf Not All Blacks Are ignorant?

Madonna said:
Disadvantaged? I only talk of disadvantaged blacks? Another ILLITERATE person! HAVE YOU NOT READ my topics in entertainment?!!! I posted I love Leona Lewis's cd and when her next single in the USA will be released. Last year i posted all my donna summer records in a photo. I have been for Obama all the way since the beginning of his campaign.
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WTF...are you serious? Did you really just say this To FabGhetto? Wow.

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gwassideur said:
I have to call bullshit on this too.

Although i will mention that it is totally futile to discuss race issues in any context. You will always land in one of three positions; either you are proactively anti-racism in which case you are labeled politically correct, or you admit that you just dont care in which case they'll call you blind/ignorant, and finally the definitive faux-pas, say anything negative about minority issues or a minority member, in which case you're branded a racist.

I simply wouldn't touch this subject with a ten foot pole.
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Odd, you left out one category, people who are actually racist.:roll:

There's nothing futile about such discussions, depending on the context. People with doctorates have been having these same discussions for decades and somehow they didn't turn to stone.

No discussion is futile if you're open-minded, honest, AND actually know what you're talking about.
 
Unlike someone else who recently started a thread in his typical manner and then fu-barred it up and revealed his usual colors, I tend to believe that Madonna is always sincere. I believe he's highly ignorant--in the unaware and not very savvy sense. And perhaps in a disturbed, could-use-a-good-counselor sort of way because of his upbringing. This is not said in judgment--I actually feel for you, Madonna. I don't believe you do this to people on purpose, like the other poster I mentioned, nor out of malice.

But at some point you have to stop arguing your point and really listen to people. Don't blame your miscommunications on others or on JUB being negative, like another poster who never takes responsibility for the shit storms he causes. Be accountable for what you say on here by listening to what people have to teach you about it. Prove that your heart really is in the right place, and learn from the wisdom people here have.

Now, your boyfriend is already racist. If these were the only black people he had ever known, he would perhaps be a little justified in his ignorance (not his loathing, just his ignorance). But he works with good people who are not like those he finds annoying, and instead of looking to them as being representative of their ethnic group, he's choosing instead to focus only on the negative examples. That indicates that he's predisposed to believe the worst even though he's surrounded by better. If you truly care about people and how they are treated/perceived, then you will seriously consider getting rid of a relationship where your lover does not respect people.

You also need to admit to yourself your own racist leanings. Yes, you do have them. I too hate it when I get someone on the phone for customer service who does not speak very clear English. The difference is I don't get frustrated by what nationality/color/religion they are--I just wish their English was better because I have trouble hearing/making out what they're saying. You rant and rail not just at how they are hard to understand, but you drag in their ethnicity. That's a prejudice--and you need to recognize it. Otherwise, your rant about your boyfriend comes off highly hypocritical.

I feel a little protective of you, Madonna, because I truly do think you're trying to get it. But you're also trying everyone's patience as you do so. My advice, again, is to really listen to what people here have to tell you. If you can grow from that, you'll find yourself wiser and more ready to have relationships that are real and deep in their understanding of and respect for others.
 
Killjoke said:
Unlike someone else who recently started a thread in his typical manner and then fu-barred it up and revealed his usual colors, I tend to believe that Madonna is always sincere. I believe he's highly ignorant--in the unaware and not very savvy sense. And perhaps in a disturbed, could-use-a-good-counselor sort of way because of his upbringing. This is not said in judgment--I actually feel for you, Madonna. I don't believe you do this to people on purpose, like the other poster I mentioned, nor out of malice.

But at some point you have to stop arguing your point and really listen to people. Don't blame your miscommunications on others or on JUB being negative, like another poster who never takes responsibility for the shit storms he causes. Be accountable for what you say on here by listening to what people have to teach you about it. Prove that your heart really is in the right place, and learn from the wisdom people here have.

Now, your boyfriend is already racist. If these were the only black people he had ever known, he would perhaps be a little justified in his ignorance (not his loathing, just his ignorance). But he works with good people who are not like those he finds annoying, and instead of looking to them as being representative of their ethnic group, he's choosing to instead focus only on the negative examples. That indicates that he's predisposed to believe the worst even though he's surrounded by better. If you truly care about people and how they are treated/perceived, then you will seriously consider getting rid of a relationship where your lover does not respect people.

You also need to admit to yourself your own racist leanings. Yes, you do have them. I too hate it when I get someone on the phone for customer service who does not speak very clear English. The difference is I don't get frustrated by what nationality/color/religion they are--I just wish their English was better because I have trouble hearing/making out what they're saying. You rant and rail not just at how they are hard to understand, but you drag in their ethnicity. That's a prejudice--and you need to recognize it. Otherwise, your rant about your boyfriend comes off highly hypocritical.

I feel a little protective of you, Madonna, because I truly do think you're trying to get it. But you're also trying everyone's patience as you do so. My advise, again, is to really listen to what people here have to tell you. If you can grow from that, you'll find yourself wiser and more ready to have relationships that are real and deep in their understanding of and respect for others.
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thank you (*8*)
 
i have to say for him to have branded fabulouslyghetto with being illiterate? ive lost all interest in the post we're clearly dealing with a fool
 
I didn't say I didnt love him. The racial thing is not a big thing to me.. it was just starting off as a simple conversation that got WAY blown out of proportion. Obviously bidude says im a joke but I have made ALOT of many different kinds of topics about music, supernatural, and politics. People only WANT TO SEE the posts of mine they see as negative.

I said my bf had negative feelings towards the black race because of his experiences. He sees them and is not an asshole but he makes jokes when we're at home. He's still a good person and I'm not gonna dump him because of one flaw. Yea we all dump our bfs because they can't have one flaw. Sounds like Bidude711 is trying to start shit. "Madonna is a joke" is trying to aggravate me or insult me. I am not gonna let that effect me cuz i'm the bigger person. Seriously. If he had a statement to make... he can always make a private message.

Look at all my past threads most of them are about different things.. you only see and remember the topics you deem "Negative." and keep holding them against me. Why not the positive ones?
 
OK ! A Positive post about you Madonna :)

You do have a nice ass ,and I would not at all fucking you !!
 
Re: Hot To Tell bf Not All Blacks Are ignorant?

Madonna said:
I really don't want my bf to become racist seeing as how his family is down south.. and how my biological dad is a member of the KKK and part of that "Sons of confederate veterans" organization.
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Madonna said:
No I said how his family from down south is racist.. again ur putting fucking words in my mouth maybe if you took a literacy test you could actually read RIGHT for once.
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No. You put your own words in your own mouth. I repeat:

I really don't want my bf to become racist seeing as how his family is down south..
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Your words say that his family is racist because they are "down south" and your bf would become racist if he was "down south" with them.

Your words seem to say one thing (or, at least, you keep telling us they do), but the meaning behind them always say the opposite.
 
GOSH MADONNA, U HAVE TO TRY A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING FOWARD YOUR OWN FEELINGS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE WHILE HIDING BEHIND BEING NON-RACIST, THIS IS JUST A JOB BADLY DONE MY MAN.

FIRST YOU MAKE UP SOME STORY ABOUT A BOYFRIEND WHO WORKS WITH BLACK PEOPLE SO WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND HOW "THE BOYFRIEND" FEELS ABOUT HIS COLLEGUES

He works in an office that is mostly black. He's told me stressful work stories about how most of his employees are really lazy, and have attitudes all day long.

THEN THE INSTANCES OF HOW YOU UNDERSTAND OR AGREE WITH 'YOUR BOYFRIEND'S" PERCEPTION OF BLACK PEOPLE, THEIR ARGUMENTS, THEIR POLITICS AND HOW THEY MANAGE TO PROGRESS IN THEIR CAREERS

  • From what I know the cook county government offices are generally slow and alot doesn't get done as fast as it should.
  • He can't complain to his boss because the boss is black and hired his family to come work. When it comes to government jobs its not what you know... its WHO you know to get the job and doing political favors.
  • I told Joe to just confront his co-workers but he said they will give him an attitude and call him "White Boy" and call him racist to get away with the shit they do.
  • The way I see it.. if he becomes racist its because of how these people are acting.
  • He does have some co-workers that are black which are a big difference but those are the minority in the office he works in.
THE FIRST STUPID CULTURE STEREOTYPE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE COMES OUT

They borrow his stapler and he gets it back and its all greasy from whatever food they were eating.

THEN A BLATANT ADMISSION OF HOW CORRECT YOU FEEL YOUR "BOYFRIEND" IS AS YOU HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND, COATED AGAIN IN ANOTHER OF YOUR ANNOYING STUPID STEREOTYPES ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE

I have visited his office and someone was actually painting their long nails and one was on her phone talking really loudly looking like she spent more of her paycheck on her hair and nails then anything else.


THEN YOUR IDEA OF THERE SOMEWHERE BEING A "GOOD AFRICAN" WHO WOULD MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS (WHATEVER THEY ARE) VS THE UNCULTURED BLACK AMERICANS


This isn't true African culture (HOW THE FUCK WUD YOU KNOW WHAT "TRUE"AFRICAN CULTURE IS).. this is culture developed by a select few blacks growing up in America.

AND THEN THIS PRICELESS SCIENTIFIC WEIGH-IN OF HOW WHITE AMERICA LANDED ITSELF IN THE MESS ITS IN WITH THE BLACKS


My theory is the after-effects of the confederate war and the Jim crow laws trying to keep blacks from not having as much as whites out of fear.

THEN THE LAST ADJUSTMENTS OF THE SHEEP SKIN YOU ARE WEARING OVER YOUR TRUE SELF AFTER YOU ARE SATISFIED YOUR POINT IS ACROSS AND HOPING YOU HAVE RUFFLED ENUFF FEATHERS TO GET RIGOROUS RESPONSE

  • I really don't want my bf to become racist seeing as how his family is down south.. and how my biological dad is a member of the KKK and part of that "Sons of confederate veterans" organization.
  • I am trying to help him see people as equal and convinced him to vote for Obama and come with me and other friends to burn a confederate flag to put on youtube. (It was something I saw being done by the NAACP speaking out against racism and white supremacists)
  • How can I explain to my bf that ignorance such as theirs does not come from their skin but from how they were raised? How Can I convince him that not all blacks are like that?[/quote]
My apologies for the caps, I needed as much contrast as possible from this fool.
 
^^^Mmmm...gyoza & lumpia...mmmm
*makes his sister make some and send them*


Most of the gay men that I know are into sports. Mostly basketball and football, so that's another stereotype you seem to have there, Madonna. And if gay men DIDN'T like sports, there wouldn't be a forum on here.
 
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