Hypocritical Democrats - The Call to Violence

[Zu-Mendel]

International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

Base salary $294,285 in 2010.

$368,000, including bonuses and disbursements.

[CNS News]​

Now who was it just a few months ago who were claiming that salaries like that doesn't qualify one as a 'rich' American?

 

[chuck10x]

Bob, is it appropriate for the man introducing the POTUS to call political opponents "Sons of bitches?"

But I'm not surprised that Obama's lapdog Jay Carney refused to condemn Hoffa's vitriolic remarks. Obama will always be on his knees for the Union Thugs. He needs their money and their votes.

Would it be more polite to call them "Bastards"?
What else would you call a group that would do away S.S., MEDICARE, MEDICAID, Welfare, minimum wage,Unions, ETC.

The Democrats need a thug to fire up the people -To balance out the Republican Tea Party.

 

[chance1]

International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa Jr.

Base salary $294,285 in 2010.

$368,000, including bonuses and disbursements.

[CNS News]​

hmmm

reported income is decent - not what i would consider rich

based on his namesake though i imagine there could be more where that came from

just saying

the labor movement - how much money do they spend supporting candidates/officials who suck their balls?

they're just as bad as congress

 

[Gatorguy]

This thread is a microcosm of the political problem we are witnessing in the usa. If the same vitriolic and profane rhetoric by Hoffa was giving before a republican presidential event the roles of the posters here would be reversed. The left would be outrage and the right would be deflecting. There can be no consensus on an obvious issue. The obvious issue is this was not a proper way to introduce the POTUS, it demeans the office.

Well said. It's such a simple point. I don't see why so many see it as some sign of weakness to admit it was inappropriate. I don't see why their immediate response is to immediately bring up irrelevant people as if that somehow justifies unseemly behavior.

 

[Centexfarmer]

hmmm

reported income is decent - not what i would consider rich

based on his namesake though i imagine there could be more where that came from

just saying

the labor movement - how much money do they spend supporting candidates/officials who suck their balls?

they're just as bad as congress

Compared to the amount of money that Republicans take in from Corporate Donors so that they can take it up the ass?

It'd like to see those comparative figures myself.

Here they are:

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 by ranking.

The Top Political Actions Committees and who get's their money.

So yes, Unions Thugs (as laikaNYC calls them) give the lions share of their campaign contributions to Democrats, while Corporate Fucking America (my term, both literally and figuratively) give the lion's share of their contributions to to Republicans.

As to the topic of this thread I have two opinions:

1. I think that it shows a lack of class to use profanity in a crowd where children might be present, and it shows a lack of respect to the office of the President to be used when introducing the President.
2. Whenever FOX NEWS gets their tits tweaked over something like this, you can bet that we're missing a real news story somewhere.

As to my opinion of this thread?

Ad hominem attacks, either toward the subject matter, or each other never addresses the real meat of a topic.

I'm just saying.

 

[palemale]

as regular moderate folks - non union folks - are paying the bills for the money grubbing Hoffa-ites

who don't want labor supported but rather their pockets lined

Chance, baby, what on earth are you talking about?

 

[maxpowr9]

Chance, baby, what on earth are you talking about?

He doesn't realize that CEOs do the same exact thing and get away with it too.

 

[palemale]

I'll give you credit for making a stab at it. Laika wouldn't, naturally. I guess he agrees with me that the Republicans have nothing to run on. Of course, you mostly say nothing substantive, and nothing you propose has ever created a healthy, stable economy, but at least you tried.

1. Reduce the business tax rate. Corporations in the USA pay one the highest rates in the world.

Nothing new here, Republicans love to reward their corporate cronies and benefactors. In a recent poll of small businesses, less than a quarter identified government regulation and taxes as a top issue. The top issues were access to capital and economic uncertainty. https://bschool.pepperdine.edu/newsroom/index.php/2011/09/study-small-business/

2. Eliminate almost all exemptions from the tax code.

Republicans are vehemently opposed to eliminating the most appalling exemption of all, the tax breaks for oil companies.

3. Revamp the health care bill. It did nothing to control costs and will eventually suffocate the country with debt.

Revamp it how? Specific policies, remember?

4. Go back to a previous budget year ... say, 2008. No more auto increases every year.

This doesn't even make sense, unless what you are proposing is just one, huge cut in the budget. Are you suggesting going back to the exact budget as 2008? The Republicans aren't. This would restore lots of cuts to social programs that have happened in recent years.

5. Erase most of the executive orders that created the mountain of new regulations since Obama became President.

Which ones? Be specific. This wasn't supposed to be a simple bash Obama exercise.

6. Pass a budget -- the Senate refuses to look at the budget passed by the House. Democrats have not passed a budget for 2 years.

And what are you proposing would be in the budget? The only thing the Republicans seem to be for is the Ryan budget. Good grief.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Chance, baby, what on earth are you talking about?

I read his comment and my first thought was how "organized labor" really isn't helping the American worker anymore.

Anymore than the Corporate CEO's are sharing the wealth.

I continue to support Organized Labor because they're the only bulwark that American "blue-collar" workers have, whether they're members of a Union or not, against the tyranny of Corporation America.

Corporations fund the Republicans to do their bidding, and Unions fund the Republicans to protect the American Worker.

But to decry them as Union Thugs, as laikaNYC did in one of his now usual ad hominem responses, is just irresponsible.

We are fighting a war in this country, Corporate Greed against our American Democracy.

Money decides our elections now, not votes.

Does anyone remember this old joke?

The person who dies with the most toys wins!

It's true, and the "toys" are our elected representatives.

But to decry the words of one man, or represents a single labor movement as indicative of the problems in our country needs to pay more attention.

And that especially goes for our media!

 

[chance1]

Chance, baby, what on earth are you talking about?

I think that buying political favors is wrong

That organized labor as represented by miscreants like James Hoffa .....

Has lost it's reason to be - to protect from mistreatment

That unions need to recognize that they have a responsibility to recognize economic realities not just expect more

I don't think that union leaders represent their constituents well

 

[chance1]

He doesn't realize that CEOs do the same exact thing and get away with it too.

Neither should get away with it

The question is about unions and i think their actions as depicted here and the subsequent cock sucking by Biden and other Dems is worth pointing out for what it is

 

[evanrick]

well when corporate america ships your jobs overseas, your vacation time is revoked and your forced to work 80 hours a week dont come crying to labor.

 

[Gatorguy]

I think it's more about the tactics of Labor vs. their goal. I think what they aspire to would be supported by most Americans. It just comes down to their methods and approach which seem to be consistently close to the edge of responsible behavior.

 

[palemale]

I think that buying political favors is wrong

That organized labor as represented by miscreants like James Hoffa .....

Has lost it's reason to be - to protect from mistreatment

That unions need to recognize that they have a responsibility to recognize economic realities not just expect more

I don't think that union leaders represent their constituents well

I'm not a big fan of Hoffa, but what has he done that you object to? What makes you think unions do not recognize economic realities?

 

[Centexfarmer]

The Tea Party is going to have to get use to some backlash from here on out.

They're not going to get much sympathy from America's working class, it's Unions, or Senior Citizens.

All that those who'll be running against them have to do is point to Wisconsin, or to Paul Rand, or any of the other Tea Party "chosen," and their words, their comments, and their proposed legislation, come November 2012 they'll be looking back to the day with fondness of when they were only called "sons of a bitches."

Just after Christmas, and certainly after January 1, 2012 all hell is going to break lose here in America, as the Republican Primaries get into full swing, and an angry electorate could make the Tea Party look like the type of tea party that little girls have, instead of a reference to the original Boston Tea Party.

So they need to start getting use to it.

The war for America's future is on, and the Tea Party already fired the salvo during their first two years in office.

Though I don't support were Hoffa made his comments, the Union Thugs are going to come to this fight with more than Billy Clubs so the little girls with their "tea party" need to be prepared to pull their skirts up over their heads in short order.

Oh, wait they already are with an "SOB" comment.

 

[laikaNYC]

I'll give you credit for making a stab at it. Laika wouldn't, naturally. I guess he agrees with me that the Republicans have nothing to run on. Of course, you mostly say nothing substantive, and nothing you propose has ever created a healthy, stable economy, but at least you tried.

I'm just not interested in your pathetic attempt at baiting.

 

[Centexfarmer]

I'm just not interested in your pathetic attempt at baiting.

Pot meet kettle.

How about responding with something of substance?

Either you've got an answer to his question or you don't.

If you don't then don't take "the bait."

It's simple really.

 

[laikaNYC]

Corporations fund the Republicans to do their bidding, and Unions fund the Republicans to protect the American Worker.

But to decry them as Union Thugs, as laikaNYC did in one of his now usual ad hominem responses, is just irresponsible.

Calling people "sons of bitches" and saying "we need to wipe them out" is thuggish.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Calling people "sons of bitches" and saying "we need to wipe them out" is thuggish.

As opposed to the Tea Party wiping out their jobs, threatening their Social Security and Medicaid, while their homes are being foreclosed, and threatening more harm to Americans through their actions in Congress, and a legislative agenda?

Tissue?

What's not "thuggish" about the Tea Party right about now?

 

[palemale]

I'm just not interested in your pathetic attempt at baiting.

Asking someone about their political views or why they support a particular candidate is hardly baiting. The fact that you claim that Obama has nothing to run on in 2012, yet cannot give a minimal explanation of why you support Republicans or with which of their policies you agree is what is pathetic.