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i need white people's perspective on this

moon smalla ten earth but moon can block out sun lucky it keep movin
ppity Un ans it leglass lands wavin flaggys no do same
_here a flow chart ans ans flowar chart ans 3D cock chart ans size 12 shoe chart_
arrh so sweet ans ya colorin da lines bits

thankyou
 
you're pretty good at pointing out problems....how 'bout some answers?

I'm curious too. If the real problem is "misplaced priorities" how do you (zk) propose addressing those?

Mind you, you've said education isn't the problem...
 
is there a problum?
or only durin comerical breaks
or world cup ans olympics doins a infomericals fa cheese dip pools fa nice folk

educattion a farce ins eyes all universe fa eons

anyway back ta topic

_president now hold baby fa nice snap shot_

rrrrrrrrrrrrr

thankyou
 
I have read nothing but the thread title....


So yes I believe you should both wash it, then shave it.
 
DAMNNNNNN... I go and actually read it and it is serious.


So I will add (seriously) that all things take time to develop. While my experience is very anecdotal, I know many more successful and in my mind average black families. People who seem to be stuck or climbing the same ladder as the other races I know.

Still the problems in the black community are amplified examples of the same issues all over our society. Lack of responsibility or more precisely lacking personal sacrifice has allowed our children to develop ridiculous value systems. When you couple that with a racist courts and corrections system, the overall effect on a smaller percentage of the population is devastating.

So with poor examples in front of you and a system stacked against you, as a kid, then it is almost a requirement that you be extraordinary to simple lift up and survive. I think people are correct to complain freedom and equality hasnt been achieved.
 
This is all very LostLover-esque... and he was a "teacher", which made his stupidity even worse.

I knew you were gonna read me for this one. :( I was at least hoping for an insightful read cuz I'm not being disingenuous I really don't "get it." A small part of me thought you might understand since some of your tastes are outside of mainstream black culture as well.
 
@Karen,

Were you perhaps tipsy when you asked for white peoples' opinions? Weeeeeell, if'n ya weren't, here's mine.

1. you're white? you're soooo not who i thought you were, there's another lucky here who's black and, it's not important i've made a mental note.

2. it seemed like a good idea since most of JUB's more vocal racists have vanished, there was one guy in particular you could count on like the anti-thesis to Kane, even when Sean Bell was discussed he was right there incriminating Sean with "maybe he did this" and absolving the cops with "maybe they did that". anyway it never hurts to get an outsider's perspective.

poverty and utter lack of upward mobility.

this is the kinda causation i didn't want to assume
 
Im not white but can I join? hey..:?

From my distance observation towards black culture: I watched a random movie from BET the other day...a (true story) biography about a young diligent black kid who is smart, love science but alas living in 1960s where school was segregated and blacks were on suicide mission if they decide going to college but he didn't give up his dream. He kept continue whatever obstacle until he became a rich doctor
I remember there's a scene when he was threatened/bullied by his classmate "WHat chu gonna do with this, you wanna get out from the hood boy? You want those crackers brainwashed you to be white?"
I was like :##:
but if art imitates life ...I think that scene reenacted almost daily in black community- why? Because we (regardless of race) feel the lack of progress...it seems black community self destruct themselves because they have too much 'swag'/attitude to the point of worshiping it.
problem is ...if the swag is happen to be negative but they unable to change because they're being stubborn with their ideals.
Having a good education, clean life and hold your temper doesn't mean y'all white-washed.

Correct me if Im wrong but that is what I truly felt about you guys. ^^
 
I remember in my highschool (2004/2005) year, after school over..I made my hm, tv on and I watched either Will&Grace or My wife and kids ^^
^
that looked pleasant and non intimidating ^^ I love that show
maybe if more black family living like that instead they copy horrible reality show
That show is straight but maybe whether you're in gay/straight family, just suck the positive vibe out of it and make it your own ^^
 
1. you're white? you're soooo not who i thought you were, there's another lucky here who's black and, it's not important i've made a mental note.

2. it seemed like a good idea since most of JUB's more vocal racists have vanished, there was one guy in particular you could count on like the anti-thesis to Kane, even when Sean Bell was discussed he was right there incriminating Sean with "maybe he did this" and absolving the cops with "maybe they did that". anyway it never hurts to get an outsider's perspective.



this is the kinda causation i didn't want to assume

Aye, m'white. Irish first name, middle name n'last name - not the cutesy O' or Mc/Mac kind, but the one no one outside o'my hometown can pronounce, which is odd because it's a fairly short name at 6 letters. I expected less mispronounciation in the city, not more. I've heard more comments on my name from white people in the city than I had in the whole of living two towns over from somewhere that was actually on a map.

My whole theory on your question boils down to shitty outside treatment, internalized crap and that kids look around and go "how the fuck am I gonna get outta this? ....I can't." In my experience, few people have the energy to put in twice as much effort as their neighbor just to reach mediocrity.
 
Well, since the general assumption about me right now is that I'm against Medicaid for poor people, let me explain a couple things.

My siblings and I grew up in another part of the world where the difference between poverty and just above the poverty level meant the difference between having just barely enough to eat and not having anything to eat at all for days. When we were little, most of the time we'd have nothing but rice and salt to eat. Every once in a while, our parents would tell us to keep sleeping throughout the day because there wasn't anything to eat at all.

So, having rice and salt was just barely good enough to keep us going. If I was someone standing on the outside and seeing 70% of a group of people consistently having just barely good enough to survive for another day and I point it out saying there's something wrong here, am I against providing food for these people at all? Of course not. Just barely good enough is what we should have as a safety net, not something that people should be "used to".

That's how I see medicaid. It's a just barely good enough healthcare and should be viewed as a safety net system, not something that people should use for life. When I pointed out these statistics, it was not my intention to deny people medicaid. In fact, I celebrated when my home state decided to expand medicaid as part of the Obamacare package. If anything, we ought to increase the quality of medicaid.

It's not that I mind people using medicaid as a safety net. It's that I see something seriously wrong when 70% of births given in an entire group of people use medicaid. Again, it's a safety net program. It's like using your parking brake every single time you want to brake on the highway. What's worse, if 7 out of 10 cars on the highway use parking brake to slow down on the highway.

Why am I hammering these points? Because for decades we've been repeating the same lines as reasons to why the poverty level among black people is so disproportionately high. The high numbers of children born without fathers, the high incarceration rates, the gangsta looks in black pop culture, the insanely popular rap artists whose careers are to demean women and promote violence, etc. I think all of those things are related.

But god forbids if I say anything about it.

Anyway, I've said all I can. If you think continuing to use the exact same lines as the last several decades that have proven to not work at all, then by all means go ahead. Or people within the black community can begin admitting that there is something seriously wrong that isn't being addressed by pretty much anybody, probably out of fear of being labeled as a racist.
 
I remember in my highschool (2004/2005) year, after school over..I made my hm, tv on and I watched either Will&Grace or My wife and kids ^^
^
that looked pleasant and non intimidating ^^ I love that show
maybe if more black family living like that instead they copy horrible reality show
That show is straight but maybe in whether you're gay/straight family, just suck the positive vibe out of it and make it your own ^^


That might help, but I remember watching the Cosby show and Fresh Prince and while I liked 'em, I also thought they were rich as hell and what they did for work wasn't remotely possible for anyone I knew, black or white. If something is too far removed from an individual's reality it isn't considered an option. I don't think the core of the problem is people imitating television.
 
Having a good education, clean life and hold your temper doesn't mean y'all white-washed.

Unfortunately that's exactly what it means in some circles. Every culture has an anti-authority, anti-education, anti-establishment clause.
 
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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_05.pdf
Your stats look at teenage pregnancies. We've been talking about chronic single-mom-ism.
 
I grew up on a res..............don't try telling me what goes on there.

you're pretty good at pointing out problems....how 'bout some answers?

Because he can only point out the problems in a simple fashion and doesn't even have a clue to how complicated the issue is. Repeating the same stats over and over blaming it on the love for the movie Scarface and the Godfather.

Take the figure of unemployment. Never does he bring up that technology is taking out more and more jobs because the human element is gone. Not just the jobs themselves .
If you file a online application for a 10 bill a hr job at Home Depot and have a record your application is trashed. There is no human element to give you a interview and a chance (you have no chance) the technology has weeded you out already,... wiped you out. I certainly have some mistakes in my background and would get the same shredder as a young black man with some criminal record if I applied for the job too.
For many jobs the same technology that passed you for no criminal record knocks you out for a bad credit rating, another strike where you will never get a human interview for a job. A low wage dead end job in many cases.
Technology is color blind and a felony on your record makes you unemployable in 2014 for a lot of jobs who use the net for job applications. Just one tiny detail that zombie doesn't even throw into his rant.
It is making extremely hard for a great many men to find work with a tainted background. Everyone needs to survive and its hopeless when a shit load of things keep wrecking you.
 
Well, since the general assumption about me right now is that I'm against Medicaid for poor people, let me explain a couple things.

My siblings and I grew up in another part of the world where the difference between poverty and just above the poverty level meant the difference between having just barely enough to eat and not having anything to eat at all for days. When we were little, most of the time we'd have nothing but rice and salt to eat. Every once in a while, our parents would tell us to keep sleeping throughout the day because there wasn't anything to eat at all.

So, having rice and salt was just barely good enough to keep us going. If I was someone standing on the outside and seeing 70% of a group of people consistently having just barely good enough to survive for another day and I point it out saying there's something wrong here, am I against providing food for these people at all? Of course not. Just barely good enough is what we should have as a safety net, not something that people should be "used to".

That's how I see medicaid. It's a just barely good enough healthcare and should be viewed as a safety net system, not something that people should use for life. When I pointed out these statistics, it was not my intention to deny people medicaid. In fact, I celebrated when my home state decided to expand medicaid as part of the Obamacare package. If anything, we ought to increase the quality of medicaid.

It's not that I mind people using medicaid as a safety net. It's that I see something seriously wrong when 70% of births given in an entire group of people use medicaid. Again, it's a safety net program. It's like using your parking brake every single time you want to brake on the highway. What's worse, if 7 out of 10 cars on the highway use parking brake to slow down on the highway.

Why am I hammering these points? Because for decades we've been repeating the same lines as reasons to why the poverty level among black people is so disproportionately high. The high numbers of children born without fathers, the high incarceration rates, the gangsta looks in black pop culture, the insanely popular rap artists whose careers are to demean women and promote violence, etc. I think all of those things are related.

But god forbids if I say anything about it.

Anyway, I've said all I can. If you think continuing to use the exact same lines as the last several decades that have proven to not work at all, then by all means go ahead. Or people within the black community can begin admitting that there is something seriously wrong that isn't being addressed by pretty much anybody, probably out of fear of being labeled as a racist.

if a problem ten no community

darkages still here ya nose
world ova fail is all ova
-ans alls tem professions high train folk got be so worry gonna get _
ya fired but has nice day

anyway

sure a folk figa it ans move next step
_stop watch_
in

thankyou
 
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