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I want a different life. This isolation is crippling me, and I've no power to change.

CG, if you met someone you liked, and you hit it off, and then he says the most amazing thing "No! You're from Small Island Town? My second cousin's good friend comes from there. I haven't been up there since the summer of my 12th birthday, but my cousin wanted to do a road trip later this summer so it's already all arranged..."

And then says "Would you mind if I paid you a visit when I'm there...."

You see where I'm heading; is this town just missing a man? If Mr. Right moved into the village, would you have any reason to go? Or are there many reasons to leave? I'm kind of a fan of small communities myself.
 
1. Do I continue travelling around the country, and try to find other cities that offer similar things?
2. Do I attempt to stay permanently here, and find a rented apartment and some sort of work?
3. Do I return back home, take time out, reflect on my experiences, and consider my options?

Having travelled around the UK quite a bit I would think your only options of finding similar cities to Edinburgh are limited to Glasgow, Manchester and London. I have always liked Edinburgh and know London very well, dont know much about Manchester. From your good experiences of Edinburgh and since you feel at home there I would say limit your gay experiences at this stage to Edinburgh.
The decision you have to make now is whether to go back home, treating this as a holiday, or trying to find other afffordable accommodaton and a job. If I was you I would think your best option at this stage is to return home and think things over. After you have had a few weeks for reflection have another short break in Edinburgh with firmer plans for your future.
Best of luck in what ever road you wish to travel and the best of luck.
 
Hi CG

I apologize if I'm being rude in asking, but how old are you?

Only, you say "I want the company of guys my own age, preferable gay ones. Not for sex (not initially, anyway) but for friendships." and was just wondering what "my own age" was...

I'm in the UK, and I travel 'round quite a lot. I also study the Anglo-Saxon period (just transferred from St. Andrews, actually), so I want to go to some of the Scottish Isles....
 
And then I go online last night, and find all these communities, forums, chatrooms, dating, clubs, etc. But they're all for outgoing, confident people. People who find it easy to communicate, to socialise, to have fun, and most importantly, to be happy. And I feel that I'll never manage to have that life, the sort of life I so desperately want.

I want the company of guys my own age, preferable gay ones. Not for sex (not initially, anyway) but for friendships. I have no friends, I only ever had one proper one my whole life. I want to find a welcoming group of guys who'd support me and guide me through it all, with understanding and patience.

Try not to beat yourself up for not having what you want. Remember that small steps DO amount to chances that can see you happier before you realize it. But chances like those almost always require risks.

People who feel trapped in their lives do seemingly dorky things, like join a square dancing club or volunteer their time. It seems like you want a very specific kind of community around you (you've clearly had a lot of time to build up an idea of what would be nice), but the trouble is, you can't custom-make your friendship circle. Try to meet new people face-to-face, as it's always more satisfying that online and be welcoming to them. People aren't interested in becoming part of your "cast" as much as they in finding someone them organically relate to.

It sounds like your depressed and don't know how to force things into being how you want them. There are plenty of gay or bi or gay friendly people around. You have to be willing to accept that they may not be as "perfect" as the ones you've imagined in your head to see them all around, though.

You will feel more confident when you stop telling yourself you're a failure for not having the right people around to reaffirm your self-worth.
 
So, what's new, ChickenGuy?
 
^ Quite a bit (and thanks for the message of support) (*8*)

I've stayed for over two weeks in Edinburgh now, but the money that I have immediately at hand is running out because of the high costs of hotels, B&B, parking charges, eating out, etc.

So I responded to one of the replies I got from the flatshare ad that my cousin helped me put up online. This was the only one from a gay guy (two gay guys actually) with a spare room going. I finally, after much delay, mustered up the courage to phone him. He told me that I was one day too late. He'd promised the room to someone else. :cry:

But, after an exchange of e-mails the next day, I asked if it was OK to drop in for a visit, just to see his place and get some advice. So after having to put aside my fears about him being a robber, rapist or murderer :rolleyes: and after spending a few minutes literally standing outside his door without the courage to do anything #-o I FINALLY knocked on the door and, of course, he was just an ordinary guy with a lot of good advice and contacts. One of the contacts is for someone who has apartments and rooms to let at variable rates. So, next Monday, I'll be viewing at least a couple of locations.

I was also at the careers advice centre and had a talk with someone there, and I also went to the job centre and looked at some of the vacancies there.

And on the social side, I've chatted to plenty of guys at the events I've gone to so far - it's REALLY helping me with my social skills, all these events (pride parade, drop-in centre, badminton, photography, support group) I'm gradually feeling more comfortable communicating more in groups.

So, I think the next step is to rent an apartment for a month, either by myself or sharing. It's what I want to do - Edinburgh is such a gay-friendly place, and I like going to these groups and clubs, even if I still don't talk as much as most people. I feel like I'm making good progress - all it needs is time. And after a month, who knows?

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I think I could answer the questions a little better if I had an idea of your financial situation.

How could you afford to stay there? Who supports you when you are home? How would you afford to go to another city? Are you well off?

I have, through various circumstances and events over the last decade, acquired quite a large amount of money, all locked up in savings accounts. I'm actually going home (briefly) tomorrow for a few days to sort out my finances. Obviously, if I take up a rented apartment, and since I'm not working, living in a city won't be remotely sustainable, and I'll be making losses approaching £1,000 ($1,500) (*S*)

This is something I need to talk with my dad about, which is why I'm going home for a few days. But actually, neither him nor myself particularly care about the money - we can both see how much happier I am living like this. I will just need to find some sort of work, and also downgrade to something cheaper after a month. That's assuming I stay. It seems increasingly likely.

You see where I'm heading; is this town just missing a man? If Mr. Right moved into the village, would you have any reason to go? Or are there many reasons to leave? I'm kind of a fan of small communities myself.

I suddenly feel like there are other factors to consider - there is simply NOTHING in the way of gay events and activities at home. It is only through me travelling to the city that all these new experiences and opportunities have come to light.

It would no doubt be different if you lived in a city all your life, but I've so very rarely been to cities that it's a very new and exciting change for me.

I apologize if I'm being rude in asking, but how old are you?

I'll be 34 at the end of this month. I realise now that I could NEVER have done this any earlier in my life. And, to be honest, I was beginning to fear that change would never happen. Various factors were responsible - personality disorder, depression, closed community, isolated location. They all combined to keep me mostly in the house for a lot of my life. It was never the case that I couldn't go out - it was just that I preferred to hide away on my own with the television and computer.

For the first time in my life, I'm feeling that that whole era of my life is behind me.

Here's to the future (UU) it's never looked so good. :D
 
I'll come and visit you in Edinburgh when you get sorted out (that is, if you want). There's a train direct from Brum...

Rob
(*8*)
 
Hey Chickenguy. I know what you are feeling because I feel the same way a lot. I'm pretty much a loner and have only a few close friends but throughout the loneliness I am able to be happy. I know you can do the same my friend ;).

I wished I had instructions on how to do this but it's just something that comes naturally to me, I don't know. All I know is that you just have to love and adore yourself where you are and the way you are right now. You need to tell yourself everyday how wonderful and amazing you are ..|. Even if you don't believe that at first.

I'm sure you like to laugh right? Find some movies or TV shows to make you laugh at least once everyday. We can control our happiness because it's inside of us. You just need to make the decision that you are gonna be happy no matter what and you will. Once you do that I think life can be much easier on you. I don't think there is any thing outside of us that can make us happy. It's always our choice ;).
 
That is all wonderful news, CG!

It's so great to see someone who comes for advice, and actually takes that advice and progresses in their life.

You are making so much progress so quickly. I am really so happy for you! (*8*)
 
Great news! You have made great progress since you joined JUB, asking a lot of questions then following the advise you have received. The support of your family and particularly your Dad has of course helped you in achieving your present situation. Best of luck in following your current plans but Edinburgh being rather an expensive place to live does create its own problems. However it is a great city and I am so glad that you have been able to make friends there after your isolated life, go for it ChickenGuy!
 
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