Kevin Bacon Wants To See More Male Nudity In Hollywood

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

REALLY?! They're acting as though they aired a hardcore porno on TV! Did they ignore the entire premise of the movie and then only focus on that scene, which is accurate to what actually happened?

Also, look at this... FOX Denver shows a penis on TV, and the reaction is amazing...

it a mooooooooovieeeeeee fa peanuts

anyway

_PENIS_
poilte penis
" dat okay ten "
Patriotic penis
" ooh medal fa ya "
OWWWWW

tinku

 

[paulmodibe1920]

Hooray for Kevin Bacon. Hollywood will never do the male nudity thing until we demand that they do it. I would suggest that we start a change.org petition in support of it.

 

[SaskGuy]

I can see the US headlines now: "Gay men want to infiltrate our glorious, innocent media with their porn and agenda and turn our youth gay"...
And a whole bunch of straight guys getting livid because they don't want the media to be full of porn... which translates to not wanting to see nude men. Nude women is encouraged though.

You ever browse any porn site that caters to both gays and straights? For example, on Pornhub, there's nothing to click on to get to the gay section, you have to add "/gayporn" to the URL! And even then it keeps switching back to the straight section. Even then, there's straight porn scattered all over the gay search results. Imagine what straight people would do if they ever had to put up with that!
A simple button, or what Xtube does with the pop-up asking what you like would be nice. Xtube has the right idea, but a lot of the time on most sites, they've made the gay section as hard to find as they can, so straight guys can't accidentally see it.

 

[MorrisseyX]

The simple fact is that a lot more people want to see naked women (and will pay to be able to do so) than those who want to see naked men.

It's not homophobia. It's a simple fact, and it's been a fact since silent movies ruled the Earth.

No straight men want female nudity the 50 shades movie was a joke Dakota Johnson was nude yet Jamie Dornan only flashed his butt that is bullshit. We have a right to see cock in films.

 

[johaninsc]

...You ever browse any porn site that caters to both gays and straights? For example, on Pornhub, there's nothing to click on to get to the gay section, you have to add "/gayporn" to the URL! .

sometimes I'll type in "/gayporn" after the URL, but they do have something to click on...just below the search box at the top you'll see the word "categories"...click on that, and gay porn will be in the 3rd box on the 2nd row

 

[equalityboy81]

I can see the US headlines now: "Gay men want to infiltrate our glorious, innocent media with their porn and agenda and turn our youth gay"...
And a whole bunch of straight guys getting livid because they don't want the media to be full of porn... which translates to not wanting to see nude men. Nude women is encouraged though.

You ever browse any porn site that caters to both gays and straights? For example, on Pornhub, there's nothing to click on to get to the gay section, you have to add "/gayporn" to the URL! And even then it keeps switching back to the straight section. Even then, there's straight porn scattered all over the gay search results. Imagine what straight people would do if they ever had to put up with that!
A simple button, or what Xtube does with the pop-up asking what you like would be nice. Xtube has the right idea, but a lot of the time on most sites, they've made the gay section as hard to find as they can, so straight guys can't accidentally see it.

Speaking of XTube it seems like they won't allow you to uncheck all the female stuff until you have gone through a few steps which doesn't take that long but it sort of insulting towards straight women and gay men. I'm not sure how to explain it by typing it down but just clear your cookies, go to XTube which is by default set to the sex: male who is interested in female and change it to MALE who likes MALE. You have to go through the male who is interested in male AND female (the bisexual setting) before you can change the settings to male who likes only male. I assume XTube wants to make sure that there is no way a straight male can be traumatized by seeing even one dick. It's kind of sexist, gender discriminatory, and heterosexist/heteronormative for XTube to have a default setting of straight male who is only interested in women. Why not just leave all the fields blank from the beginning that way anyone entering can select whether they are male, female, or other and what sex/gender or sexes/genders they are interested in? It's really that simple! It seems they favor straight guys over gay men and straight women. Straight women and gay men have to select and de-select things while straight guys don't have to do anything but click go. Society in general tends to over all favor cis-gender heterosexual men over women of all sexual orientations, trans-people, and gay/bi men. That is changing slowly but surely across the U.S. to accommodate people who are not in the majority.

 

[equalityboy81]

It's funny how Xtube and other porn sites have no consideration that gay men may be offended by seeing pornographic images of women but they do everything possible to make sure a straight man never has to see another man's penis. So I believe that society, if not homophobic, is at least on the heterosexist/heteronormative, male-dominated society side.

 

[equalityboy81]

Hooray for Kevin Bacon. Hollywood will never do the male nudity thing until we demand that they do it. I would suggest that we start a change.org petition in support of it.

That's what I've been saying all along. No change will happen unless we discuss, debate, and raise hell about the inequalities, and lack of diversity in this world and DEMAND change. Gay people didn't get all the rights we have now that we didn't have before by just sitting back, saying nothing, and stating "that's just the way things are."

 

[equalityboy81]

See, to me that just illustrates the horror of the Holocaust. How could anyone even think of deriving anything sexual from that?

In the U.S. they bitch about anything showing male nudity even when it is within context, horror-oriented, or totally non-sexual.

 

[gsdx]

So I believe that society, if not homophobic, is at least on the heterosexist/heteronormative, male-dominated society side.

I don't think you will ever, ever understand that not wanting to see naked men does not equal homophobia. I don't get turned on by naked females, so I don't look at them. Does that make me a misogynist? A lot of women don't get turned on by naked males, so they don't look at them. Does that make them lesbians?

Most men grow up seeing other naked men, especially in high school and later in gyms and lockerrooms. Seeing it on the screen means nothing to them, but they probably wouldn't fork out the money to buy a ticket to see it.

You've got homophobia on the brain and you make it appear where it really doesn't. Your argument is wrong in so many ways.

 

[equalityboy81]

I don't think you will ever, ever understand that not wanting to see naked men does not equal homophobia. I don't get turned on by naked females, so I don't look at them. Does that make me a misogynist? A lot of women don't get turned on by naked males, so they don't look at them. Does that make them lesbians?

Most men grow up seeing other naked men, especially in high school and later in gyms and lockerrooms. Seeing it on the screen means nothing to them, but they probably wouldn't fork out the money to buy a ticket to see it.

You've got homophobia on the brain and you make it appear where it really doesn't. Your argument is wrong in so many ways.

I was talking about XTube and other porn video site settings though in my last few posts. I was just talking it being equal. Many porn sites that cater to gay and straight don't seem to care whether heterosexual sex and naked women offends gays but they'll certain go out on a limb to protect those poor straight boys from being blinded by seeing a penis. As a gay person I am indifferent to straight porn with the exception of seeing a hot guy. I don't get grossed out by seeing women the way straight guys supposedly do about seeing another man. I wonder why that is? Why am I not "repulsed" by the nude female being a gay man but a straight man is repulsed by another man that has the same body parts he does? I can understand indifference but not repulsion. I'm not offended by straight porn but they shouldn't assume all other gay men won't be if they feel straight men will be offended by gay porn. Porn sites should give us all the same courtesy regardless of gender, gender identity/expression, and sexual orientation.

I agree with what you saying about forking out money to see a film but if it is a good film I don't think male nudity in it would be a factor to not see it either if the plot is good.

You thinking I'm wrong is your opinion of course and I respect that you disagree with some of my views.

What you said about women not getting turned on by naked men I have a theory about that. It has been scientifically proven that men are more visually sexually stimulated than women. That is why men view porn more than women. I often wonder if gay men view porn more than straight men. I wonder if gay men are a higher percentage of users on XTube and other porn sites. I've heard the number one subscriber of Playgirl is gay men.

 

[paulmodibe1920]

I am have trouble understanding all of the endless discussion, Please no disrespect is intended. It would seem to be a simple matter of artistic freedom of expression by the authors, writers, actors, directors, and/or producers. But it is not.

Movie have been shot for decades in a "European" manner and then cut to "American standard (censored) and then later deleted scenes appear on the internet. Nine times out of ten the deleted scenes are male nudity.

Worst are the countless times that the movies are cut yet again for TV, cut again going from VHS to DVD. One of the most notable one is Lawn Dogs with Sam Rockwell. It took me 7 sevens to find an uncut original version of the film. There are five or six versions of this excellent movie.

A European friend recently e-mailed me that even the Gone Girl nude scene with Ben Affleck is longer and full as he turns in the shower with a fuller view of his penis.

I do not know the answers but it comes down to bowing down to the conservative political and religious elements in the country and the greed of the industry who are afraid of every political and religious wind that blows.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I do not know the answers but it comes down to bowing down to the conservative political and religious elements in the country and the greed of the industry who are afraid of every political and religious wind that blows.

huaman apeess a regualr

anyway

tinku

 

[equalityboy81]

I am have trouble understanding all of the endless discussion, Please no disrespect is intended. It would seem to be a simple matter of artistic freedom of expression by the authors, writers, actors, directors, and/or producers. But it is not.

Movie have been shot for decades in a "European" manner and then cut to "American standard (censored) and then later deleted scenes appear on the internet. Nine times out of ten the deleted scenes are male nudity.

Worst are the countless times that the movies are cut yet again for TV, cut again going from VHS to DVD. One of the most notable one is Lawn Dogs with Sam Rockwell. It took me 7 sevens to find an uncut original version of the film. There are five or six versions of this excellent movie.

A European friend recently e-mailed me that even the Gone Girl nude scene with Ben Affleck is longer and full as he turns in the shower with a fuller view of his penis.

I do not know the answers but it comes down to bowing down to the conservative political and religious elements in the country and the greed of the industry who are afraid of every political and religious wind that blows.

I am so proud of you for calling out this type of censorship. I can tell you numerous examples of movies that this has happened to. The Green Mile on DVD and even VHS releases is different than the theatrical version for the theatrical version and its releases had rear nudity of Sam Rockwell getting a sponge bath in his cell and Doug Hutchison's rear nudity while being changed into a gown in the sanitarium. As a boy, I also recall there being nudity in the original R-Rated version of Top Gun, it was men from the rear toweling off in a locker room while some clothed man was talking to a clothed James Tolkan, it was at least two men; their butts. That scene was cut for some reason from future VHS and DVD releases.

One VHS release of Alligator had shown the rookie cop Kelly's pubes and butt while he was changing, talking to, and meeting David Madison for the first time in the police station locker room. Later VHS and all DVD releases exclude this scene. I lost the VHS with that scene.

I did think that Ben Affleck's butt was kind of short, darkened, and censored in Gone Girl.

Some on here what to say there is no homophobic motives whatsoever when it comes to censoring male nudity in the U.S. If it isn't homophobic or even anti-male nudity then why do you never, ever see the same type of censorship used against female nudity or female nude scenes cut, cropped, blurred, darkened, changed, or deleted completely?

Some people, including some gay people, are conformists. Again, I'm glad people like you, myself, Kevin Bacon, and others are calling U.S.A. and its Hollywood out on this.

The opposite of sexual attraction to a certain sex (male or female) is not repulsion, but indifference. If one is repulsed then that represents a more serious problem or psychological issue.

I'm not saying that the majority of Americans are homophobes but whoever is behind the censorship and cutting of male nude scenes that already existed in previous releases must be homophobic to some degree.

If male nudity was okay in movies then why not now and why is it that no female scenes are treated the way male ones are? Female nudity is easy as hell to find in many movies.

 

[equalityboy81]

I believe in movies at least being released in their theatrical version. I think cutting scenes from the original theatrical release or cropping anything out is downright unacceptable and censorship. It's no different than taking chapters or words out of classic literature. As a male and a gay man I find that offensive.

 

[paulmodibe1920]

equalityboy: Thank you for your thoughtful and informative responses. I have worked in Hollywood, theatre, and TV for near 40 years in the field of still photography on sets for promotional stills, etc. Later, I have worked as a video cameraman. There is little if any objection to artistic expression including nudity on the production end of the industry. It starts with the money people who unabashedly interfere with the final edit, and circulation of the final product. Fear of the lost of future funding of movies is a powerful incentive to respond positively to the desires of the money people.

Again thanks.

 

[Latimer]

Other than in porn, I generally find nudity in movies a distraction--the viewer is drawn out of the scene and the character portrayed and thinks, that's Kevin Bacon naked. If I remember correctly Bacon make a hugely entertaining and very trashy mystery/thriller with Matt Dillon in which he appeared naked. I've heard that the original climax as filmed revealed that he and Dillon were lovers, but the scene was cut.

If I want to see naked men on film, I'd rather watch porn, and do.

 

[figjam]

Other than in porn, I generally find nudity in movies a distraction--the viewer is drawn out of the scene and the character portrayed and thinks, that's Kevin Bacon naked. If I remember correctly Bacon make a hugely entertaining and very trashy mystery/thriller with Matt Dillon in which he appeared naked. I've heard that the original climax as filmed revealed that he and Dillon were lovers, but the scene was cut.

If I want to see naked men on film, I'd rather watch porn, and do.

No - that is a celebrity thing. Watching French and German Cinema you will see when nudity is used correctly. Not to shock, but part of the story.

 

[figjam]

USA and UK is to obsessed about nudity.

 

[paulmodibe1920]

Other than in porn, I generally find nudity in movies a distraction--the viewer is drawn out of the scene and the character portrayed and thinks, that's Kevin Bacon naked. If I remember correctly Bacon make a hugely entertaining and very trashy mystery/thriller with Matt Dillon in which he appeared naked. I've heard that the original climax as filmed revealed that he and Dillon were lovers, but the scene was cut.

If I want to see naked men on film, I'd rather watch porn, and do.

"with Matt Dillon in which he appeared naked. I've heard that the original climax as filmed revealed that he and Dillon were lovers, but the scene was cut." This scene was included in the version showed in the Netherlands, according to friends of mine.