Maybe someone should tell her that Glutony is one of the seven deadly sins?

[CGHJ]

American what? Some TV show? Sounds stoopid. Meh.

 

[CGHJ]

I want to know where the hell she finds pants she can fit in?

OK so I do have to admit that that was my first thought when I saw her. That's not a size that's coming off the rack.

 

[looseliam]

There are plenty sail makers around. I'm sure it's within their ability.

 

[Croynan]

The Advocate Magazine Interview

April 06, 2006

Mandisa breaks her silence


By Neal Broverman

Wednesday night was your last night on American Idol. What are your feelings? You must be upset.
I was. I was shocked, and I wasn't ready to go. In hindsight, I look back on it now and it was my time. You can't go wrong with who they've got left. It's going to be a great season this year.


There's been controversy about your comments on the Idol Web site and your appreciation for antigay writer and lecturer Beth Moore. Some took it as an endorsement of the "ex-gay" movement. What do you say to people who were turned off by that?
I just heard about that a couple of days ago. It broke my heart. I live my life by the value system that you treat others the way you want to be treated. I let love be my guide. I absolutely hate no one. When I heard that I was really upset.

Is there a conflict between being religious and being gay?
I know my value system, based on that, that on the word [of the Bible], that it does speak of that. I do know I have no place to judge anybody. I know that at the end of time we all face the judge and his name is not going to be Mandisa, so I cannot place any judgment on anyone.

Would you be comfortable performing or singing at a gay event?
I would not, no.

Would it conflict with your religious beliefs?
Based on what I believe, I'm not an advocate for [being gay], so it's nothing I would take part in.

Do you think that feeling contributed—along with your Web site profile—to some people not voting for you?
It's possible. Honestly, I'm not sure. I've heard a lot of different theories about what could have happened, and all of 'em sound pretty decent to me. So I just know I did my best and I tried to live my life in public the way I do in my personal life. You know, it was just my time and it could have contributed.

Would you change anything if you had the choice?
I wouldn't. I don't have any regrets. It's been an amazing ride for me. I have enjoyed every second, every minute of it. So I am not looking back on it. I enjoyed myself so much, I wouldn't want to change a thing.

Before you sang the Mary, Mary gospel song “Wanna Praise You,” you mentioned that people's various addictions and lifestyles are not as strong as God. Were you speaking of gay people?
No, no. That song was a very personal testimony for me. I've been dealing with an addiction to food for most of my life. I've been living in a lifestyle of pure indulgence, giving in to every single desire that I've had as far as what I've put into my body. So when I was speaking that, I was strictly speaking of how the Lord has helped me to overcome my personal struggle and I was just saying if God can do it for me—and a lot of other people face many different things out there—I was trying to be a testimony that he can do it for anybody.

Do you think gay people can turn straight?
I don't really know. I honestly don't know much about it. I wouldn't be very knowledgeable to speak on that subject.

What are your future plans?
Not sure. There's a lot of possibilities that have opened up for me. So I'm just looking forward to seeing what is next and can't wait to see what's in store.

Thank you, Mandisa. Good luck.
Thank you.

 

[Soilwork]

Well, maybe she can get a gig flogging Jenny Craig now that Kirsty Alley is thin.

She can be the next "BIG Loser".

 

[Soilwork]

OH Geez... now I feel vindicated... she was just caught smuggling drugs....


Apparently, the border guard lifted up her dress and found 60 pounds of Crack.

 

[CaptainJohn]

"Big Loser". . .hehehehe.

Jasun, you "crack" me up.

 

[Oden_grey]

The Christian singer who got her bulbous ass forklifted off American Idol praises those "Ex-Gay" churches and won't perform for Gays, and isn't a "Gay advocate" but insists that she "Loves everyone".

Not as much as she likes Ice Cream and Cookies and Gravy from the looks of it.

SW, You sure know how to call it like it is.

 

[Soilwork]

it's a curse.

but I think that it's one of the reasons I've lived this long.

 

[Corkles]

When are people gonna learn??

Dr. Laura lost her TV show because of us and people still haven't absorbed the fact the we have a lot of power.

I used to like Mandisa,but after I read all the negative things she's had to say about gay people,I'm glad she's gone.

 

[Joshua_me]

If only she could see the ground she's about to fall on...

Josh

 

[Soilwork]

I'm sure she'll leave a crater visible from space....

 

[Corkles]

I'm sure she'll leave a crater visible from space....

Boy J..you really are making up for all that stuff you deleted from your original post aren't ya?

 

[CaptainJohn]

Boy J..you really are making up for all that stuff you deleted from your original post aren't ya?

Keep it comin', baby

 

[SomethingBlue]

As a plus-sized lady myself, I need to say that it isn't cool to make fun of her for her weight. Why make it worse? If her negativity causes more negativity.... Well, it's a nice little mudslide of evil.

Anyone who knows the pain of discrimination (which I assure you, all bigger women do) should support her fellow human beings, not make things worse.

But that doesn't make it okay to poke fun at people's weight. I've never been anything but supportive to the gay community, and it hurts me that these kind of things could be said about me behind my back. Pretty is as pretty does, I remind you...

 

[CaptainJohn]

I assure you, my dear, had she not made hateful and hypocritical statements herself, there would probably not been more than a passing comment here or there about her size. However, with her bible-thumping gay-bashing attitude, she has incurred the wrath of those of us who are just fed up with people like her, and like Soilwork said, her girth makes an easy target.

Pun semi-intended.

 

[Joshua_me]

As a plus-sized lady myself, I need to say that it isn't cool to make fun of her

Sweetie, I can assure you I'm not making fun of her....

Big black women that can sing *rule* my world, let me tell you.

But.

It's her 'duplicity', her 'two-faced-ness' that annoys me.

Plus, did I mention that outfit ?


Joshy

 

[stromberg]

As a plus-sized lady myself, I need to say that it isn't cool to make fun of her for her weight. Why make it worse? If her negativity causes more negativity.... Well, it's a nice little mudslide of evil.

Anyone who knows the pain of discrimination (which I assure you, all bigger women do) should support her fellow human beings, not make things worse.

But that doesn't make it okay to poke fun at people's weight. I've never been anything but supportive to the gay community, and it hurts me that these kind of things could be said about me behind my back. Pretty is as pretty does, I remind you...

Thank you!!! If her size was just an easy target, then why is it getting more attention on this thread than her comments?
We get it, she's fat. Aren't her hypocritical comments the BIG issue here? And I think her ignorance on a subject that she obviously has very little knowledge of but yet speaks publicly about gives more then enough ripping room without going into her weight.

 

[Jory]

Holy crap!

Baby got back!!

. . .and sides. . .

. . .and rear quarter panels. . .

Holy Fuck she's about to eat the microphone then the rest of the audience.........Wow no taste.

 

[Soilwork]

Jasun, you are a liar. You know it and I know it, so let's not get sidetracked by debating that fact since this thread is about Mandisa's hypocrisy and how it is related to your own. Lying is permissible for you, however, since you're wrapped up in such a pretty package and obviously, outward appearance trumps integrity with you and your followers. We'll call them "Jasunites" from now on since it will help other members separate them from the quality posters on this forum.

While I find it kinda funny that the "NowVoyager" persona is STILL being carted out to prove that I'm somehow a total fabrication, it's even funnier that you should point people to a post where I not only admit that NowVoyager wasn't real but I then continue to point people to my podcast where people can see exactly what kind of person that I am... on video. With my BF and my friends and my brother and my motorcycle club.

I guess I wasn't aware of how popular NowVoyager was. I have to learn my own strength.

Well I invite you to strap on your "pair" (probably still new in box) and elaborate on how and why you mislead and entire forum of struggling members under the guise of a closeted teen who finds himself and turns his life around at your advice in a sensational and very well executed fabrication.

Ok.

"NowVoyager" wasn't really "fake" so much as "on time delay". His coming out directly mirrored my own.. from having my porn found by a straight room mate right down to the play-by-play description of my first date with my first boyfriend Charlie and how I told my best college friends. (Oh, but the father and brother part was in real-time and taken word-for-word from a friend's coming out to a family who already knew and were just waiting for him to say something. My own family coming out experience wasn't so grand.)

Why did I do it? For three reasons.

First, I got sick and tired of how every single post in the "Coming out" forum was a "Woe is me" post. Every post was about how awful being gay was and how nobody could come out because their friends and families would disown them and there was no reason to come out. Two guys posted about suicide. I figured if I told people of my own coming out it would be gone in one post, but if I went back and let people see how it unfolded, they'd maybe have a "coming-out role model" and see that it's not as bad as they had expected. (For the record, NowVoyager wasn't a teenager, he was 21). It worked. None of that was made up, really.. it all happened. And lots of people still credit him, and therefore me, with their own finding of themselves, coming out and their much better lives. So there.

Second, I did it because I needed a second persona on here.. every time I say something on here it's as a representative of the company I work for. I didn't want my anti-war and other controversial posts to somehow be linked with Fratmen. I speak for me, not for my employer. I told the powers that be here what I was up to... I just didn't tell them that my alter ego was the second most popular guy on the board.

Third, I was getting stalked by a member here and wanted a brief repreive from him posting a comment after every single one of my posts, PMing me four times a day and starting endless threads about me. That one backfired big-time. He stopped stalking me on the board and began to stalk me in real life.

I don't mind that you called me out on it. I was kinda planning on doing just that, but at the time the NV got found out by the Mods, my little brother went to jail and I lost all interest in posting here, working out, shaving my head and getting up in the morning. By the time I got back, I figured people had forgotten. I was wrong, apparently.

However, It's also kinda telling that in the post you quote from me that I say something about how I actually think fat men are hot, and as far as attacking her, I'm just being mean in the face of meanness.

Yeah, if you take a look at her reasoning for being against gay people (the bible), you can also find reasons to be against fat people, lazy people, eating shrimp and saying the world is round. (I'm not kidding.. go read Leviticus again.. it's a hoot)

I, however, am not a Christian and I'm not bound by those rules. I think fat men can be hot and I dont' have a biblical reason to comdemn them, but being gay, I have every right to play devil's advocate about the whole thing.

Finally, I think it's just kinda mean to say that people who agree with what I say and find a kindred spirit in me are "Jasunites" and aren't "Quality".

I think some of the most quality posts here are from people that I get along with just great, although I also highly respect other posters who constantly call me out. Hey, if I can get into a four-page war of words with a guy like Sixthson and then make peace with him and actually become board buds with him, I don't think I'm all that bad.

And finally... Soilwork isn't a fabrication. Everyone who's met me in real life here has pretty much stated that I'm just the way I portray myself on here.. I'm totally gay acting but I still have guts. I ride a motorcycle and I listen to heavy metal. I tend to stick up for myself in a rather "In-yo-face" kind of way and I constantly tell gay men that they need to BE men and not take shit.

you think I'm totally made up? Go back to that post you refrenced here and then click the link I posted in it, watch my podcast and see that no, I really am just like I say I am.

ok... peace, ok? All this negativity is bringing me down.

Can't we all just get along?

Do I have to create ANOTHER persona that the mods like too?