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McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to agree

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The people are upset that we are paying Obama and McCain $160,000 a year to be our Senator.

They see McCain flying to Washington to do his job and saying that he will stay until the job is done.

They see Obama putting the crisis on the back burner while still collecting his full salary.

Obama is putting himself first. McCain is putting American first.

McCain is clearly, to anyone who pays attention, not "putting American (sic) first". He's the leader, by far, of senators who skip votes. If he cared about America, he'd be paying attention to his job all the time, not just occasionally. Due to his record, the plain and simple way to interpret this is that it's a campaign stunt.
 
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You truly believe this?

You really believe that paying Obama $160,000 to run for President is a good idea.

He is being paid to be a US senator. He should do his job.

All three Senators (McCain, Biden & Obama) should be in Washington until the crisis is over.

If not, they are shirking their sworn duty.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

The people are upset that we are paying Obama and McCain $160,000 a year to be our Senator.

They see McCain flying to Washington to do his job and saying that he will stay until the job is done.

They see Obama putting the crisis on the back burner while still collecting his full salary.

Obama is putting himself first. McCain is putting American first.

I wonder why Obama's leading McCain in Illinois by such a large margin.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

You truly believe this?

You really believe that paying Obama $160,000 to run for President is a good idea.

He is being paid to be a US senator. He should do his job.

All three Senators (McCain, Biden & Obama) should be in Washington until the crisis is over.

If not, they are shirking their sworn duty.

That's nice, but how about answering his question?
 
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I agree with you Kul. His unilaterally backing out of the debate strikes me as imperious behavior on McCain's part. He agreed to show up and should do so unless Obama agrees to postpone.

Its not his place to dictate to Obama nor is dictating part of the description for the job he is seeking.

I think McCain might be stuck here as it appears that house republicans will be the sticking point in this deal. If McCain can't bring them along we're left to wonder what kind of leader he is when those in his own party reject his leadership and if he does bring them along then this deal will have his name written all over it. (which is bad for a deal lacking universal appeal.)

He should have looked before he leaped.

It might have something to do with the fact that these house republicans are younger than many of their counterparts, and are not only disenchanted with Bush, but are a segment of conservatives that NEVER liked or trusted McCain. They're unlikely to follow his lead and are rebelling against their party. I saw on the Rachel Maddow show that many of these younger conservatives are beginning to run under a "GOP Party" ticket, as opposed to a "Republican" ticket.

So, I agree with you. McCain parachuted into a virtual firefight.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

All three Senators (McCain, Biden & Obama) should be in Washington until the crisis is over.

This "crisis" could change significantly one way or the other depending on who is elected president. I think that's a pretty important question to get settled right now don't you?
 
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This whole thing is a fake manufactured crisis by the Bush Administration attempting to throw McCain a lifeline. The only problem is Bush has lost all credibility when it comes to "crisis management".

I think it puts McCain at a disadvantage because he is basically over-reacting. That is not something you want to do when bad stuff happens.

I think Obama has demonstrated he is capable of remaining calm when a crisis hits and I would be very surprised if McCain did not show up for the debate.

People could already be joking about McCain "We didnt know if you were going to show up or not"
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

This whole thing is a fake manufactured crisis by the Bush Administration attempting to throw McCain a lifeline.

I'm no fan of Bush but that statement is ridiculously loony.

Yeah, Bush drove several of America's largest and oldest corporations to bankruptcy just to help McCain's polling numbers. :rolleyes:
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

You really believe that paying Obama $160,000 to run for President is a good idea.

He is being paid to be a US senator. He should do his job.

All three Senators (McCain, Biden & Obama) should be in Washington until the crisis is over.

If not, they are shirking their sworn duty.


I agree with this.

Obama, Biden and McCain --and Hillary Clinton when she was running-- are receiving salary and excellent benefits at the expense of taxpayers, and the work they're doing is campaigning, not the People's Work in Congress.

That Obama supporters, in posts responding to the one I've quoted, dismiss this outrageous behavior is a little troubling.
 
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This "crisis" could change significantly one way or the other depending on who is elected president. I think that's a pretty important question to get settled right now don't you?

Right. Obama's and McCain's handling of the crisis could determine the outcome of the election.

McCain is working on the crisis.

Obama is working on his campaign.
 
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This whole thing is a fake manufactured crisis by the Bush Administration attempting to throw McCain a lifeline

It's the evil Karl Rove, working behind the scenes to help Halliburton take over the country. LOL
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

Right. Obama's and McCain's handling of the crisis could determine the outcome of the election.

McCain is working on the crisis.

Obama is working on his campaign.

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And again you have it wrong. The trip to DC by McStoopid is purely political.
 

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Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

Right. Obama's and McCain's handling of the crisis could determine the outcome of the election.

McCain is working on the crisis.

Obama is working on his campaign.

See you aren't one of those people who look at both sides with an open mind and really look into it. I did.. and saw nothing practical with the republican party nor the majority of the kind of people it represents. Were your parents republican and now you're just going by how you grew up?
 
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The group of congresmen working on the bill did not need McPain to come to DC to "help" (more like help his campaign).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26896139/

McCain's "Straight Talk Air" landed at Reagan National Airport just after noon, and his motorcade headed toward the Senate. But even before his charter plane took off from Newark, senior Democrats and Republicans at the Capitol were already announcing that a deal in principle had been reached.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

The group of congresmen working on the bill did not need McPain to come to DC to "help" (more like help his campaign).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26896139/


McCain's "Straight Talk Air" landed at Reagan National Airport just after noon, and his motorcade headed toward the Senate. But even before his charter plane took off from Newark, senior Democrats and Republicans at the Capitol were already announcing that a deal in principle had been reached.



That might actually mean something if a deal had been reached but it had not. In fact it remains a long way from being reached.

I don't know if McCain will or will not have any impact on this process but clearly Democrats and Republicans are far apart in their positions, and McCain is the only one involved at the moment who has helped in reaching bipartisan agreement on significant legislation. Trouble is, right now Democrats want to paint McCain as a spoiler so they're unlikely to allow him to intervene in a productive way. Republicans, for political reasons if nothing else, would be happy to see McCain bring together bipartisan agreement.
 
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The group of congresmen working on the bill did not need McPain to come to DC to "help"

The congressman did a wonderful job without McCain.

That is why the headline on the NYtimes website (a pro Obama news organization) is Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains Unresolved

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/business/26bailout.html?hp

The congressman have failed. It is time for a real leader, John McCain, to step up.

Obama will, most likely, hide on the campaign trail.

Hopefully, McCain will shame him enough so he does his job as a US Senator.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

The congressman did a wonderful job without McCain.

That is why the headline on the NYtimes website (a pro Obama news organization) is Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains Unresolved

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/business/26bailout.html?hp

The congressman have failed. It is time for a real leader, John McCain, to step up.

Obama will, most likely, hide on the campaign trail.

Hopefully, McCain will shame him enough so he does his job as a US Senator.

After reading your link above, I found the congressmen working on the bill DID have an agreement. McPain had no part of it. He isn't part of the group working on the bill.
He will have to act like a Senator like the rest of them and vote on what they come up with.

Mr. Boehner pressed an alternative that involved a smaller role for the government, and Mr. McCain, whose support of the deal is critical if fellow Republicans are to sign on, declined to take a stand.

The talks broke up in angry recriminations, according to accounts provided by a participant and others who were briefed on the session, and were followed by dueling news conferences and interviews rife with partisan finger-pointing.

--snip--

But a top aide to Mr. Boehner said it was Democrats who had done the political posturing. The aide, Kevin Smith, said Republicans revolted, in part, because they were chafing at what they saw as an attempt by Democrats to jam through an agreement on the bailout early Thursday and deny Mr. McCain an opportunity to participate in the agreement.

--snip--

After spending Thursday morning behind closed doors, senior lawmakers from both parties emerged shortly before 1 p.m. in the ornate painted corridors on the first floor of the Capitol to herald their agreement on the broad outlines of a deal.

They said the legislation, which would authorize unprecedented government intervention to buy distressed debt from private firms, would include limits on pay packages for executives of some firms that seek assistance and a mechanism for the government to take an equity stake in some of the firms, so taxpayers have a chance to profit if the bailout plan works.

“I now expect we will indeed have a plan that can pass the House, pass the Senate, be signed by the president, and bring a sense of certainty to this crisis that is still roiling in the markets,” said Robert F. Bennett, Republican of Utah, a member of the banking committee.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

After reading your link above, I found the congressmen working on the bill DID have an agreement. McPain had no part of it. He isn't part of the group working on the bill.
He will have to act like a Senator like the rest of them and vote on what they come up with.



"Senior lawmakers," according to reports, came close to agreement but that's not how legislation is passed. Everyone in Congress has to vote on it, and according to reports rank and file Republicans were very much opposed to the supposed near-agreement.

I don't know why anybody expected this Congress to come to a fast agreement on something so huge that's rife with ideological differences.

Not that I think McCain has helped one bit, but also his presence hasn't hurt. And Obama certainly hasn't helped either.

It's so silly there's almost no point in saying it but it's a real shame that both Obama and McCain care more about winning an election than participating in any substantive way to pulling together bipartisan legislation to address this mess. Afterall, they are both Senators and they each have a lot of power right now within their parties --especially Obama-- because the Parties are invested in winning the White House. If Obama and McCain came together, not to write some worthless joint statement but to make a substantive proposal to Congress, they could actually do something for the American people.
 
Re: McCain wants debate postponed, asks Obama to a

After reading your link above, I found the congressmen working on the bill DID have an agreement. McPain had no part of it. He isn't part of the group working on the bill.
He will have to act like a Senator like the rest of them and vote on what they come up with.

From what I understand, as well ... McCain was pretty silent in the meeting between Bush, Obama, and the others. Apparently he only spoke at the end for a couple minutes not really addressing anything specific.

It should be clearly obvious to all, if it wasn't already, that the Economy, the biggest Issue this election, is simply NOT McCain's forte.
 
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