Michael Jackson [merged]

[bluedragon4]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

You BD4 are being quoted because you are an asshole. He did more good than what you may have heard was bad.

It was not what you believe but what he di to keep his sanity. He tried to much to please everyone else except himself.

Plus, your nose looks like it is about to fall off. You best call MAACO for the rear end collision you keep causing !!!

I love when guys on here try to make fun of someone's looks but won't post a picture of themselves! That speaks volumes. And my nose has to be bigger than Michael's nose. My nose goes up adult men's asses.

 

[Apollo]

Re: [merged] Michael Jackson Dies at 50

He was just on CNN... Pimping his record company

That was the interview. The CNN guy interviewed the father, and he could care less Michael was dead. So fucking sad.

 

[Runewell]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

I agree with those who say he was asexual. Really, nothing about MJ's demeanor or actions ever indicated to me that he even had a CONCEPT of sexuality. Sure, he invited lots of little boys to his house/bedroom, but I remain unconvinced that anything he did with those children was even remotely sexual. The main reason is because this man didn't think or function like most adults. He was a BIG KID, and he showed that to us on a daily basis. He was eccentric and odd, no doubt, but I think all the rest of us applied sexuality to instances where there was none, and couldn't be any. Really, he was a performer, he sang about sex, but in his personal life, I find it hard to believe he ever had sex with anyone. He just didn't seem to have the emotional capacity for it.

 

[LittleDove]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

Not to mention that the kid knew exactly what Michael Jackson's dick looked like. That was the reason the detectives took a picture of it and why Michael suddenly became extremely nervous and freaked out and had to give them hush money. How in gay hell would that kid know what MJ's dick looked like unless MJ was trying to have sex with him?

Akum's razor....simplest explanation is usually true.

Again, not quite factual.

Jackson's private parts fit the description the boy gave of them, but there was nothing -- such as an individual scar, distinguishing mark -- in the description which could only have been Jackson, and could only have been known from seeing him nude.

There are possibly innocent explanations of why one person would know what another looked like nude. For instance, my 3 year old nephew once reduced a dinner table to near hysterics by telling his great-grandmother -- my grandmother -- that I was circumcised and he was not, and explaining the difference to her ... which he'd learnt earlier that day when I'd taken him into the pool, what with changing, showering after, and what not. That being said, it should also be noted that one of the things the police looked at in the strip-search of Jackson was his anus, to see whether it matched the boy's description of same -- and I have a hard time imagining a logically innocent context for that particular bit of knowledge being acquired.

One final point has to do with the timing of the settlement. While there were pre-trial settlement negotiations going on, Jackson did not settle until, before the case went to trial, the Chandlers' lawyer asked the court to order that forensic accountants be appointed to ascertain the exact state of Jackson's finances ... at which point Jackson settled almost instantly, and for more money than had been initially asked.

As an incidental note, when the forensic accountants actually did get their hands on Jackson's books, at the time of the later incident, the one with the trial which resulted in his acquittal, it was discovered that, at that point in time, Jackson's expenditures were exceeding his income by roughly $40 million a year. His income was roughly $20 million per year, and he was spending $60 million, to spell it out.

 

[MaxMouse]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

I think he might have been asexual? just my assumption..

 

[Telstra]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

going to court is a waste of people's time.
The conclusion is no one gets hard.

If anyone gets hurt or harm, where are the victims?
How are they as adults? Have they been damaged ???????????????

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

Oh, honey, there ain't no such animal. Wake up and smell the coffee, will you?

Wow? What studies have you performed? This is a simplistic and ignorant statement concerning sexuality. This statement is interesting to me as the social sciences are beginning to acknowledge asexuality. From an objective perspective, how would could one possibly not consider asexuality real as there are so many variations within human sexuality.

Sexuality is such a complex issue, in general, anyway. If we are to understand it in its entirety, it will not be understood anytime soon. Remember, it was such a long time before homosexuality was acknowledged, let alone understood as simply an alternative in sexuality. While I am addressing you, I am addressing any other person like you who cannot or does not want to grasp the idea of asexuality.

Back to the topic.

 

[godson112]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

I'm totatlly freaked out by you guys who says he is gay.

Gawd, no wonder a lot of straights think were perverts who want to have sex with their kids.

Here's a guy who was seen primarily in public with young boys and thought sharing his bed with kids was so deelightful. And then many JUBBERS are quick to admit, "Oh, that just means he was gay."

Thanks a lot guys, but it seems like we should be distancing ourselves from him instead of saying he was on OUR team.

The way he shared his bed with children was no different than the way a parent lets their children sleep in their bed when they have nightmares.

Unless you were a child and he abused you, then where's your justification...apart from the very public trial, which, if I remember correctly, he was acquitted for.

And so what he paid them off? I'd probably do the same just to get them out of my hair. If they really were abused and the stories are true, then the parents are the real monsters for taking the money instead of fighting for him to go to jail. Ergo, he was innocent because I don't think any loving parent would accept money over justice for their children.

 

[LittleDove]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

The way he shared his bed with children was no different than the way a parent lets their children sleep in their bed when they have nightmares.

You know this how?

Ergo, he was innocent because I don't think any loving parent would accept money over justice for their children.

No parent would ever consider sparing their child the trauma of having to testify?

 

[godson112]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

You know this how?



No parent would ever consider sparing their child the trauma of having to testify?

And how do you know he did? From the children saying so? Why are they so more believeable than Michael? Isn't it funny how it all came out after he admitted her let them sleep in his bed? I know there was the 1993 case, but ignoring that for a second, why did they wait to bring him to court until AFTER he'd told the world he let them share his bed? Because people would believe them over him, obviously. Money grabbing swines is what they were. I know my mother would rather see a paedophile sentence to life in prison than taking millions in cash. I know my friends mothers would too.
I adamantly believe that all they wanted was money, and congratulations to them, they got it. They got it by taking advantage of an innocent and generous man.


And I hope they feel terrible.

 

[MystikWizard]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

I think so -- long hair, lip stick, nose contouring, plastic surgery, purposeful soft voice, eye liner and children by artificial insemination don't exactly scream heterosexual.

I also remember during one biography about him that someone said when Michael met Diana Ross he started walking, talking and acting like her. Gays love to emulate divas.

Very true. And I think that's sad.

Anyway, yes I firmly believe that Jackson was Gay.

 

[ibill1]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

I love when guys on here try to make fun of someone's looks but won't post a picture of themselves! That speaks volumes. And my nose has to be bigger than Michael's nose. My nose goes up adult men's asses.

That's funny, and hot, disturbing; but hot none the less.

 

[LittleDove]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

And how do you know he did? From the children saying so? Why are they so more believeable than Michael? Isn't it funny how it all came out after he admitted her let them sleep in his bed? I know there was the 1993 case, but ignoring that for a second, why did they wait to bring him to court until AFTER he'd told the world he let them share his bed? Because people would believe them over him, obviously. Money grabbing swines is what they were. I know my mother would rather see a paedophile sentence to life in prison than taking millions in cash. I know my friends mothers would too.
I adamantly believe that all they wanted was money, and congratulations to them, they got it. They got it by taking advantage of an innocent and generous man.

Evidently, you don't understand the question. You made an assertion, baldly stating that something did not happen. I asked how you knew what you stated was true.

In no way is the question implying that I believe the contrary is true. It is implying, however, that there is no way possible for you to know what you state is true ... unless, of course, you were, yourself, there. Since you've never stated you were present, and therefore have first-hand knowledge of what happened on the various occasions Jackson is alleged to have "done something" to one or more young men, I will presume you weren't.

I make no presumptions about the case, beyond noting that A alleges that B did something. I have no more way of knowing what went on in that room between those two people than you have of what state did not.

On your other point, it's difficult enough to get adult victims of rape and other forms of sexual assault to testify in an open courtroom, so I don't have a lot of difficulty in comprehending how a parent might wish to spare a child that additional trauma. True, when a child testifies, there generally are fewer persons present than when an adult does so, but it still isn't a one-on-one situation. The child has to say what happened in front of the judge, the members of the jury, the respective lawyers on both sides, parents, and others who would be allowed into the courtroom. There is also the point of the accused also being present.

 

[Footballjock9002]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

Its sad!!!

 

[bigass]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

Michael Jackson was fond of children but not in the way people think. He never had a childhood, and he hasn't really developed properly since then. I don't get what's so hard to understand.

There's a new home video going around with him playing a water gun and balloon fight with Macauley Culkin and Janet and you can see he truly still believes he's a kid. Even the way he talks and forms his sentences, Michael seems very childlike. I think that because he never developed mentally, he still relates to children more than adults and that is why he always had them at his house.

I really do think that the sleepovers were just like regular kid sleepovers. The documentary he had a couple years ago when he said it so openly that he let them stay in his bed should tell people that nothing was going on. Why would he say that if something was really going on? He was just being honest and I just dont think he identifies with being an adult. Any child asked about other children sleeping over and giving the same answer, nobody would say anything.

The bigger question is why these children's parents let them sleepover in the first place? They were just opportunists in my eyes.

The biggest tragedy of everything is how messed how his life was, his father completely ruined his life. Michael said in a 2002 interview that his father called him "big nose" when he was a child and the fact that he mentioned that made me believe that this was the reason for his nose job. Joe fucked him up psychologically and although I HATE giving people the victim card....Michael Jackson is a fucking victim and all the accusations against him only further led to that.

I agree with you.

 

[josher]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

I'm surprised no one has referenced the Daily Mail (a British tabloid newspaper) article which was linked on towleroad.com yesterday.

The author claims to have worked with the Jackson team for 5 years and makes quite a lot of assertions about MJ's personal life.

One of them is that not only was MJ gay, but pretty promiscuous. He claims to have interviewed at least two of his lovers and to have pictures of one of them with MJ.

I think the material comes from a book he's written about MJ. Of course he could be making it all up or at least exaggerating what he knows. And the British tabloids have been known to publish a lot of unproven stories.

But the article was very interesting.

 

[Jersey Domino]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

Does it really matter? No one will ever know the truth. Only Micheal can tell us. And he isn't speaking anytime soon.

Cosign.

I think people should just let the man rest in peace. Even In death the guy can't be left alone.

 

[Joshua_me]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

And to prove he was a black man he had kids, out of wedlock, with a fat, white, blond woman.

^ Well, that's hardly appropriate, newguy, c'mon....

What disturbs me about Michael is what I heard a police chief say about what he found outside of Micheal's bedroom door...

Jackson had sensors installed in the floors in the hallway leading to his bedroom. Everytime someone stepped on them, an alarm would sound in his room telling him someone was approaching.

Hello ?

That pretty much tells me that *something* was going on in there that he didn't want anyone to know about.

Now, whether this was pedophilia or just sex with other men I have no idea, (and neither do any of you, bitches...) But what it says to me is this was a man that grew up in such a glaring, unending spotlight that he felt he had to guard and hide himself and every aspect of his life 24 hours a day.

That HAS to fuck with a person. More so than most of us can imagine.

"The man in the mirror", indeed.

 

[VenomGGXX]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

This thread is sickening. He was wierd, he acted feminine sometimes, but he was not gay. Lisa Marie even said it and she admitted to sleeping with him. Just because you idolize Elizabeth Taylor does not make you gay. He did not touch those boys in that way and a court even proved it. He was tried, he could have went to jail, and now he is dead. What more do you want?

 

[Telstra]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

This thread is sickening. He was wierd, he acted feminine sometimes, but he was not gay. Lisa Marie even said it and she admitted to sleeping with him. Just because you idolize Elizabeth Taylor does not make you gay. He did not touch those boys in that way and a court even proved it. He was tried, he could have went to jail, and now he is dead. What more do you want?

fem = gay

i think he was gay BUT i don't think he was a pedo.
If he was a pedo, where are his damaged "victims" now.