Michael Jackson [merged]

[Runewell]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

Wow. Not only was Michael Jackson a great singer and dancer, he was a terrific and convincing storyteller.

He was actually able to convince many of you that he was so scarred as a child that he never grew up. This "Peter Pan" was asexual and just a kid at heart so outings with young boys and sleep overs with young boys were as innocent as a Disney movie, nevermind the two times when he was accused of child molestation.

Now for some perspective. Let's say hypothetically at the next Academy Awards Brad Pitt is seen with a young girl of 11. At one point the camera flashes over to the pair and what's this? -- she's sitting on his lap. No, she's not family, just a new aquaitance from the Mickey Mouse club that he's been seen with around town.

We later learn that she was invited to a sleepover at his house with some other girls of the same age. Oh, get your minds out of the gutter! There's nothing more special than sharing your bed with a child, he tells us. And he has regular sleep overs anyhow mostly with young, prepubescent girls.

Of course this fictitious description is crazy or is it? The only aspect missing is a finely crafted tale of a lost childhood that many of you would eat up like spoonfed pablum. But even with such a tale of woe, does that make the behavior okay?

I'm sorry, but I hardly find this to be an appropriate analogy. Brad Pitt is a completely healthy man that I don't think has ever shown any signs of instability (publicly, at least--I don't know if he has problems or not). On the other hand, Michael Jackson has been having troubles all his life--ever since he stepped into the spotlight, he's been forced to the top, way above his peers.

In this case, it WOULD be disturbing for Pitt to suddenly say something indicating he'd shared his bed with a child, but then it would be completely unexpected from a man his age who seems to have been pretty stable all his life until now, and who seems to think like you and me. I'm not saying what MJ did was normal, or even okay, but he has been showing symptoms of private distress for years and years. You have to take into account how truly different he was from everyone else.

I'm not saying that what MJ did was normal, or even okay. I am saying don't rush to label him a pedophile or gay, because there are so many different factors that influenced his thought processes. Comparing him to Brad Pitt in some contrived hypothetical instance makes absolutely no sense to me because I still don't see the sexual factor in all of it. In a nutshell--Brad Pitt, yes, disturbing. MJ, yes, disturbing as well, but probably not sexual.

 

[StationToStation]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2009/MAYJUNE.html

192. BLIND GOSSIP 06/28
If you think that the family has been rocked this week, just wait! It’s going to get bad. Here are just a few of the truths that they will deny in the coming weeks: He was a drug addict. He was alcoholic. He was anorexic. He was bald. His children are not biologically related to them. He had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was gay. Why will they deny everything? Because they know there will be a backlash against them for enabling him for years. They had to enable him because they relied on his money. If they admit that they knew these things and didn’t do anything about them, they will never get the kids. And they absolutely want those kids. The Jacksons

 

[Aisle72]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

I love when guys on here try to make fun of someone's looks but won't post a picture of themselves! That speaks volumes. And my nose has to be bigger than Michael's nose. My nose goes up adult men's asses.

This post was started for a reason that give us an chance to talk about the man we liked. Your comments belong on another post you should create. Stay out of here if you going to keep trash talking his memory. It may be freedom of the press but you press your negativity somewhere else.

See if you can make yourself feel better by what you saying somewhere in your field of dreams and let the people that respect him say there goodbyes without prejudice from you.

 

[favcored18]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

This post was started for a reason that give us an chance to talk about the man we liked. Your comments belong on another post you should create. Stay out of here if you going to keep trash talking his memory. It may be freedom of the press but you press your negativity somewhere else.

See if you can make yourself feel better by what you saying somewhere in your field of dreams and let the people that respect him say there goodbyes without prejudice from you.

Wow!!!!.....You Tell em!

 

[bluedragon4]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

This post was started for a reason that give us an chance to talk about the man we liked. Your comments belong on another post you should create. Stay out of here if you going to keep trash talking his memory. It may be freedom of the press but you press your negativity somewhere else.

See if you can make yourself feel better by what you saying somewhere in your field of dreams and let the people that respect him say there goodbyes without prejudice from you.

I can do your request if you do mine. Post your picture.

 

[benram]

Re: how do you feel about michael jackson...

I was shocked & saddened by the news of Michael Jackson's death. In one of his interviews, Michael said that he just wanted to be loved by everyone. Well Michael, you may not have been loved by everyone but I hope you know how many people did love you. Rest in peace brother, no ones criticisim can hurt you now.

 

[G-Lexington]

Re: how do you feel about michael jackson...

I feel he had a lot of talent. He wrote a lot of good songs, and performed them quite well. I really don't know why he didn't learn an instrument, because it's tough to write songs by rote, but apparently he pulled it off - in and of itself, quite impressive.

That said, I think he squandered his talent quite often. Becoming THE GREATEST POP STAR IN THE WORLD EVER seems to have made him unwilling to be anything but. He spent much of the last twenty-some years chasing his tail, trying to reclaim what he once had. It's not that his music become horrible or anything, but it no longer seemed fresh and joyful like it once did. Songs like "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" don't really sound written - they sound like the bubbled up from his very soul, and they're insanely infectious because of that. Later works sounded very clinical, very precise, very fussy...and I think suffered greatly because of that. The few of his tracks that really seemed to tap into him in the later years were paranoid anthems - "Leave Me Alone", "Who Is It", "Give In to Me", "Black and White", "Stranger in Moscow". His music never really got bad, but it certainly wasn't what it once was. It'd be one thing if I thought Michael was following his muse, and recording jazz or techno or whatever-else because that's what he really wanted to do. But I never got that impression. I felt that he was now recording music to GET BACK ON TOP. And that's why so much of it thuds hollow with m.

Personally, he struck me as a lost soul who never really did find that which he sought. Rather than simply enjoying the simple pleasures like a trip to Disneyland, or the memories of a fun sleepover as a child, he attempted to rebuild them all. And of course, what he built was simply an inferior shadow to what was imagined or remembered. Memories are fantastic things, but they're best left memories. Time and money and effort shouldn't be spent on attempting to rebuild them - they should be spent on getting more of them. If there's a cautionary tale in Michael Jackson's life, perhaps that's it.

Lex

 

[godson112]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

Evidently, you don't understand the question. You made an assertion, baldly stating that something did not happen. I asked how you knew what you stated was true.

In no way is the question implying that I believe the contrary is true. It is implying, however, that there is no way possible for you to know what you state is true ... unless, of course, you were, yourself, there. Since you've never stated you were present, and therefore have first-hand knowledge of what happened on the various occasions Jackson is alleged to have "done something" to one or more young men, I will presume you weren't.

I make no presumptions about the case, beyond noting that A alleges that B did something. I have no more way of knowing what went on in that room between those two people than you have of what state did not.

On your other point, it's difficult enough to get adult victims of rape and other forms of sexual assault to testify in an open courtroom, so I don't have a lot of difficulty in comprehending how a parent might wish to spare a child that additional trauma. True, when a child testifies, there generally are fewer persons present than when an adult does so, but it still isn't a one-on-one situation. The child has to say what happened in front of the judge, the members of the jury, the respective lawyers on both sides, parents, and others who would be allowed into the courtroom. There is also the point of the accused also being present.

Maybe I did misunderstand.

But ultimately, if that's the way you see it, what's the point in anyone saying anything about anyone or anything that they don't know about becuase according to you, we can't know.

Which I don't agree with. I do know he was innocent, I didn't need to be there or be a witness. I just know.
It sounds silly, call it intuition, but I just know was innocent. I don't expect you to give a damn or believe me, I sound like a crazy idiot. But I just know it's not true.

^ Well, that's hardly appropriate, newguy, c'mon....



What disturbs me about Michael is what I heard a police chief say about what he found outside of Micheal's bedroom door...



Jackson had sensors installed in the floors in the hallway leading to his bedroom. Everytime someone stepped on them, an alarm would sound in his room telling him someone was approaching.



Hello ?



That pretty much tells me that *something* was going on in there that he didn't want anyone to know about.



Now, whether this was pedophilia or just sex with other men I have no idea, (and neither do any of you, bitches...) But what it says to me is this was a man that grew up in such a glaring, unending spotlight that he felt he had to guard and hide himself and every aspect of his life 24 hours a day.



That HAS to fuck with a person. More so than most of us can imagine.



"The man in the mirror", indeed.

He did once say that his father snuck into their bedroom when he was sleeping as a child wearing a scary mask, and terrified him. He said he had nightmares all his life afterwards. And one of the people he was working with for the rehearsal said recently, that he kept having nightmares recently that somebody as going to kidnap him.

We may never know why he really had them installed, but it seems he was just a generally paranoid or scared person.

 

[scrapple]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

The man wrote Diana Ross' song "Muscles". Case closed.

 

[scottish1]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

As the man? is dead and is unable to answer, the question is a waste of time.

 

[undisclosed1234]

Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

ust because you idolize Elizabeth Taylor does not make you gay. ?

I want you to really think about that sentence.

 

[Spiff]

Re: [merged] Michael Jackson Dies at 50

I wonder if he will be getting another nose job for his showing. He never liked his nose in life. He's really going to be disappointed with it in death.

 

[Srsly]

Re: RIP michael jackson!

bluedragon4, i get the feeling you love attention because this post states REST IN PEACE michael jackson, and you obviously don't agree. STOP COMMENTING on him.

HE influenced millions of people, when he was a child he was in the studios recording or in clubs singing till 3 in the morning, he was robbed of his childhood and he created neverland for himself to finally enjoy a childhood he never got to have, it was also created for terminally ill children to enjoy themselves, who always came with adults from organisations like make a wish foundation, and they had only nice things to say about him. He stated that he let children sleep in the bed while he slept on the floor. why would he even state something like that if he knew his intentions were pure?
only twisted individuals like yourself chose to see the negative side.. i'm sure you're one of those people that gets their kicks out of seeing famous people at their worst, you must've been having a blast 2 years ago when britney was shaving her head..


it's a shame farrah didn't ask to ged rid of all the attention seeking jealous idiots in the world... who knows where YOU'd be now..

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

 

[Jayden]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

I posted this 2 days ago and everyone said it wasnt true!!

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

call me crazy but if there is a thread about ie: opera, I dont look because I have no interest

you?

;-)

girl boom. i'm bored. felt like posting. sue me.

 

[mattad]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

Did anyone ACTUALLY think that old white woman was the father of dem chilrens?

 

[MystikWizard]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

Michael Jackson was obviously Gay. He just pulled a "Ricky Martin" with the kids.

 

[SonOfSlobone]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

Really, "several sources"? Sounds like conclusive proof to me...

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Michael Jackson is not the father

It's stupid, not to mention very disrespectful at this point to keep talking about this any further.

Girl you know some people ejaculate at the chance to be the one to inform the masses that celebrities are normal people. Men raising children that aren't there's is just as common as men NOT raising their children.

Oddly enough I don't see any pictures on the interwebbz of the dermatologist taking the kids out, buying them ice cream, etc... Yeah, he's the father.