My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

[Telstra]

speaking of racism.

this has me busting out laughing.

look out for the newest wave that's about to sweep the world.

http://www.giftemezu.com/2012/08/white-man-turns-black-by-using-melanin.html

http://www.the-coli.com/locker-room/90068-man-inects-himself-melanotan.html

1 person is not enough.
I need for samples.

 

[blackbeltninja]

^^Yes, really.

Humans as Homo sapiens have been around for a couple million years by now; the different races from differing locales have been interacting for the last several thousand of them. Yet the bulk of us are not interracial, even though there is a single unbroken line from Lisbon to very near the Bering Strait and down south to Singapore. Up until the Suez was built, we could include Cape Point in that, and as a result I'd expect the whole of Eurasia to be significantly more homogeneous than it is. Speaks volumes, in my opinion.

I'll concede that it is probably an oversimplified view, not exactly taking things like geography and historical ease of travel into account. So I'd be interested to see it in a thousand years' time.

-d-

 

[xbuzzerx]

^^Yes, really.

Humans as Homo sapiens have been around for a couple million years by now; the different races from differing locales have been interacting for the last several thousand of them. Yet the bulk of us are not interracial, even though there is a single unbroken line from Lisbon to very near the Bering Strait and down south to Singapore. Up until the Suez was built, we could include Cape Point in that, and as a result I'd expect the whole of Eurasia to be significantly more homogeneous than it is. Speaks volumes, in my opinion.

I'll concede that it is probably an oversimplified view, not exactly taking things like geography and historical ease of travel into account. So I'd be interested to see it in a thousand years' time.

-d-

Well if you're looking at it that way, the main problem with your theory is that an overwhelming bulk of people on the planet still, even with the increase in mobility and transportation, don't wind up more than 100 miles from where they were born. You can't point at the continuance of a majority of mono-racial couplings on the planet and say "well, that's just natural preference obviously" when most people on the planet only see people that look like themselves on a day to day basis, and the great majority of them won't ever leave their country or even their region.

 

[Rolyo85]

This is gonna be an unpopular opinion for sure, but I'm predominantly attracted to white and Latino guys. Rarely to Asians, barely ever to black or Indian guys. I don't have any racist upbringing, nor do I suffer from the delusion that I'm superior in any way. I've had sexual experiences with most races, and I've enjoyed them. I did however grow up in a 99% white Eastern European country, where there simply weren't people of color. I didn't see them growing up, except for movies. Didn't go to school with them or have them as friends. Even since coming here to the US, Asians are the only seriously represented minority in the field I'm in. I can't help but think that this has played a major part in my sexual preferences.

 

[xbuzzerx]

This is gonna be an unpopular opinion for sure, but I'm predominantly attracted to white and Latino guys. Rarely to Asians, barely ever to black or Indian guys. I don't have any racist upbringing, nor do I suffer from the delusion that I'm superior in any way. I've had sexual experiences with most races, and I've enjoyed them. I did however grow up in a 99% white Eastern European country, where there simply weren't people of color. I didn't see them growing up, except for movies. Didn't go to school with them or have them as friends. Even since coming here to the US, Asians are the only seriously represented minority in the field I'm in. I can't help but think that this has played a major part in my sexual preferences.

It does, so does the beauty standard. That's why my initial gripe wasn't with the experiment or with the findings it found, but with its conclusion that you go from attraction to presumptions of someone being racist.

We don't come out of the womb with a sexual attraction to anyone. It's shaped over a lifetime of influences of both what we see and what we are told is beautiful, and what isn't. In any society where you mostly see one race and that race is also the one completely predominating in movies, ads, underwear modelling, magazines and everything else... it's going to be the exception, not the rule, that someone will up and say "but I find every single other group I've barely ever seen just as attractive."

 

[borg69unimatrix]

^^Yes, really.

Humans as Homo sapiens have been around for a couple million years by now; the different races from differing locales have been interacting for the last several thousand of them. Yet the bulk of us are not interracial, even though there is a single unbroken line from Lisbon to very near the Bering Strait and down south to Singapore. Up until the Suez was built, we could include Cape Point in that, and as a result I'd expect the whole of Eurasia to be significantly more homogeneous than it is. Speaks volumes, in my opinion.

I'll concede that it is probably an oversimplified view, not exactly taking things like geography and historical ease of travel into account. So I'd be interested to see it in a thousand years' time.

-d-

I find it interesting/humerus how several sci-fi shows portray the future with so much Asian influences. Firefly, Blade Runner, Fifth Element, Matrix... to name a few. Are they really predicted to population explode enough to take over the world that much???

 

[refujiunderground]

i saw something like this on the Oprah show back in day this white guy took something to make his skin dark just to see what is life would be like as black man walking down the street.. he ran back home and stayed inside until the drug wore out cause he couldnt believe how racist people acted towards him.. he said he now knows what is like for black people. with all the racism in the world...

i know what you're talking about. forgot who it was but yeah, racism runs deep. so deep that it's embedded within most people's psyche and they don't realize it because they grow up seeing it and are completely ignorant towards the history behind it. the problem is that some things that we grow up seeing thinking that it's okay isn't okay. for example, the "turkey in the straw" which is a jingle that usually plays when ice cream trucks drive through neighborhoods. "turkey in the straw" is actually some racist shit from back in the jim crow days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_in_the_Straw



sad enough, the history has been changed over time to the point where it's been gone and forgotten. that's something that you won't hear about on black history month which is why it's important to always keep an ear open to be informed. fuck waiting each feburary to know something that you can know any day of the year.

but as far as racism goes in terms of dating, that's a complex thing but i do think that what you're attracted to has somewhat influenced by what you learn is deemed attractive in society. the television and media outlets are proof. eurocentrism is promoted daily. you look in the magazines and look @ the calvin klein ads, the underwear ads, men's health and you see nothing but white people as the models and eurocentrism being promote. shampoo commercials are another huge example. they talk about how "healthy" and "good" hair is supposed to be straight and that hair that is nappy is "bad" where they'll even go far as demonstrate a woman with nappy hair having problems combing her hair. with everything in society basically being themed around white supremacy ideology which puts white people on a damn pedestal all the time, of course, it's going to have an effect where people are going to hold white people on a higher standard than everybody else. you'll have white people feeling themselves thinking that they're the shit or better than black people, asian people, people of latino descent and the whole nine. can you blame them though when society beats it into people's heads? even looking @ this thread, you have some white posters basically discrediting nonwhite posters experiences with racism not realizing that when they do that, they're basically doing something racist in itself. they're basically thinking that because they're white, they're right or their opinion about things holds more value than the nonwhite person. that in itself is laughable. just because they can't relate to racism from a nonwhite person's perspective doesn't mean that it doesn't exists. that in itself is a racist thought. all forms of prejudiced such as sexism, racism, homophobia and etc is learned. the only way to counterattack them is by being educated.

 

[hylas]

That should read "Hylas asked why he could not make more white friends"

yes i got that. im not completely stupid.
i would just like to know where the hell i said anything even coming close to that.

i may find your posts irritating, but ultimately they just reveal what kind of person you are, so thats fine and dandy.
however, if you start putting words in my mouth... thats just low. really, really low. seriously, what the fuck.

 

[Telstra]

1 person is not enough.
I need [STRIKE]for[/STRIKE] more samples.

smelling error

 

[xbuzzerx]

I find it interesting/humerus how several sci-fi shows portray the future with so much Asian influences. Firefly, Blade Runner, Fifth Element, Matrix... to name a few. Are they really predicted to population explode enough to take over the world that much???

Technically Asians are about half the population of the planet.. so it's not that sci fi set in the future predicts Asians will population boom, sci fi set in the future showing lots of Asian influence predicts that the dominance in voice/representation of people of European extraction when they're a minority of the human race will fade out.

 

[Nishin]

1/7 human is Chinese

 

[DigitalFudge]

Gay white men still benefit the privileges of being white (yes I said it, and I don't give a damn),

Where are the lies?

and i'm a bit annoyed right now. i want to eat lunch upstairs in my room all alone. i DON'T want to eat it downstairs where i have to eat and hear my father trying to have bullshit conversations with me. my foods still in the microwave and my mom came home. she doesn't want me to eat upstairs ever since that rat problem we had last year in october. i really don't want to eat downstairs with my parents around especially my father. like i don't feel like listening to him telling me what the fuck is on tv when he knows i'm not watching it. i don't need him giving me play by play, telling me this person, talking to me about what happened 2 days ago and etc. not interested in him basically talking about himself or what he's thinking then at the same time, when i talk to him, he ignores me as if i don't exist. i don't like my father. he's a fucking narcissistic jackass.

This is not one of your "Hi post here if you have feelings" thread. Bye.

Even on JUB, mediocre looking white guys get more attention than black or latin men (this is my own observation!). People can argue all they want, but the truth is the truth.

 

[vulgar_newcomer]

Even on JUB, mediocre looking white guys get more attention than black or latin men (this is my own observation!). People can argue all they want, but the truth is the truth.

Giancarlo you were doing fine until this. Of course its your own observation but what you consider a stellar hot dude I may find very mediocre regardless of race or ethnicity. This may be on a physical level or personality and desires.

How you have the above worded makes me think that there are no mediocre black or Latin guys on JUB but no problem with pointing out there are mediocre white guys. When in fact I would counter there are mediocre guys who don't turn you on from all points on the compass, even broader there are mediocre men & woman everywhere. So my favorite color is green and your's is blue doesn't mean either is mediocre just different to eyes wired to different backgrounds and brains.

I know from reading your post the kind of guys you find hot don't make my noodle bark at the moon. From your frequently posted view points I realize the kind of guy I am or what I like makes you nauseous in the looks dept.
Overall I agree with you however the road is 2 ways and cliches are applied to white guys too within those groups of ethic heritage and color that is always ignored, including their own.

Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear. There are many examples in addition to this. These are not covered only racial topics in the op gay chat room research, how come?

 

[Telstra]

Giancarlo you were doing fine until this. Of course its your own observation but what you consider a stellar hot dude I may find very mediocre regardless of race or ethnicity. This may be on a physical level or personality and desires.

How you have the above worded makes me think that there are no mediocre black or Latin guys on JUB but no problem with pointing out there are mediocre white guys. When in fact I would counter there are mediocre guys who don't turn you on from all points on the compass, even broader there are mediocre men & woman everywhere. So my favorite color is green and your's is blue doesn't mean either is mediocre just different to eyes wired to different backgrounds and brains.

I know from reading your post the kind of guys you find hot don't make my noodle bark at the moon. From your frequently posted view points I realize the kind of guy I am or what I like makes you nauseous in the looks dept.
Overall I agree with you however the road is 2 ways and cliches are applied to white guys too within those groups of ethic heritage and color that is always ignored, including their own.

Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear. There are many examples in addition to this. These are not covered only racial topics in the op gay chat room research, how come?

That is going a bit far.
I don't hate hiv pos guys. I just don't want to get hiv, so the hiv pos guy have to tell before we exchange bodily fluid.

 

[Rolyo85]

Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear.

I don't really know what kind of bigot that makes me, but I would never knowingly date an HIV+ guy. I don't even know if I'll be able to continue a relationship with a guy who got accidentally infected (I mean through an accident, not cheating). I have nothing but compassion for those guys, and I believe that in social environment treating them as having the plague is disgusting. But in terms of romantic and sexual relationships, I just can't do it. The thought of getting infected horrifies me to an extent where I simply don't think it would be possible for me to do anything.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Originally Posted by GiancarloC
Even on JUB, mediocre looking white guys get more attention than black or latin men (this is my own observation!). People can argue all they want, but the truth is the truth.

I think there's a certain sense of "The Grass is Greener" syndrome going on here, and "truth" is subject to the observer.

I am a 'mediocre' white guy, and from my point of view (my own observation!) I've seen lots of black and latin men get WAY more attention then I ever have on here. (Which they should... they were DAMN good lookin' !!!)

 

[pat grimshaw]

I'm curious--who are those mediocre looking white guys?

Logan Lerman and Shia Le Boef

 

[youfiad]

**Scans actively for summary of origional post/unable to find/ proceeds to comment nontheless**

What astonishes me more than anything in the world is how other segregated groups have completely turned their back onthe gay community. If you look at statistics, the African/American, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern populations have been some of the worst offenders, (specifically within the USA).

 

[youfiad]

What do you mean by worst offenders? If we look at Maryland, there was a reason why gay marriage was legalized there... and a lot of that had to do with support from the African American community. Hispanics are far more open and supportive than one may think (in general).

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...os-support-state-recognition-of-gay-marriage/

I have to find a more recent poll but this is a good one. So worst offenders I think not.

Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public). What strikes me as interesting is how, for the longest time, they were much more against it, even though those times were closer to the point in our history where they had to fight for their rights.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public). What strikes me as interesting is how, for the longest time, they were much more against it, even though those times were closer to the point in our history where they had to fight for their rights.

The black and hispanic communities are also traditionally more religious than the general average.

What anti-gay sentiments most have in common in the U.S. is religion, not racial background.