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Need help before I explode!!

thank you for the reply. im starting to think everything with the girl was BS because at prom he was supposed to sit at her table with others and he changed tables and he was sitting with his back facing her. also he was never planning on going to prom and he didnt ask her to go. she went with another guy and they were seen really close to eachother. he was also talking about how one of our friends was dumb for going out with a younger girl. the girl he "made out" with is the age as the other girl
 
also the guy i like is older than our friend. so why would he make talk about our friend and him doing the same thing? him and i were even talking on aim for 3 hours when we got home....
 
I don't get it! Is there any legitimate reason that you can't just call him up now?!! I'm shy, too; I get it, but this whole thing is getting ridiculous.
 
On a completely unrelated note, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me:

LoveIsNow, where'd your avatar come from? It's really sweet. ;)
 
Eeyore said:
On a completely unrelated note, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me:

LoveIsNow, where'd your avatar come from? It's really sweet. ;)
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I found it on heroichomosex.org, which is a website that advocates frot as opposed to anal sex. I disagree with a lot of what he says about masculinity and gender roles, but I like a lot of his stuff.

I found it in an article about fidelity: http://www.heroichomosex.org/crw/frot/fidelity2.html about a third of the way down the page.

Isn't it sweet? :kiss:
 
LoveIsNow said:
I found it on heroichomosex.org, which is a website that advocates frot as opposed to anal sex. I disagree with a lot of what he says about masculinity and gender roles, but I like a lot of his stuff.

I found it in an article about fidelity: http://www.heroichomosex.org/crw/frot/fidelity2.html about a third of the way down the page.

Isn't it sweet? :kiss:
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Thanks. If it were bigger I would have a new desktop wallpaper.:-)
 
well i have awkward telling him because he was asking me on what he should with girl. he then said hes not sure if he wants to ask her out ane he would when the time was right...
 
I just don't get it. I think the dramma has been starting from you. He seems to be your good friend, so why don't you tell him your feeling in stead of try to solve a huge punch of puzzles and codes? If he ask you if he should ask her out, just ask him why he doesn't ask you out on a real date. Heydude, there's something I've learned from the movie "The Holiday" and I would never forget. You are the leading actor in your life, but now you act like a supporting actor. Do something for yourself.
 
irishinvader said:
Hey,

So this will be the first time I'm responding to this thread but definitely not the first time I've read through it. It is crazy interesting. I have a few possibilities but I'm almost 100% sure that the last one is right.

Theory 1 (not likely) He is straight but is ridiculously comfortable with it and has found a "bromance" (god I hate that word but it works so well) with you. He likes this girl and wants his best buddy to share that with him. Given this scenario, you gotta move on or begin to find flaws with him so you can move on. But you won't be able to do that, will you? Ultimately, you'll end up telling him and ruining what he thought was the perfect friendship. He'll get over it but you probably won't. You'll feel like shit in the short run but OK in the long run. You lose the battle and win the war.

Theory 2 (more likely but still doubtful) He wants you and wants things to progress but is scared, like you I might add, to come out and do something about it. He made out with the girl because he's either bi and hasn't gotten any waiting for your ass and/or wants to make you jealous, which would be working, and solving this problem would mean you would tell him you want him. Or, instead of directly telling him, you could JUST tell him you are gay and see if anything changes between you. If it is case numero uno, I still see him getting past this because of your deep friendship. You win or at least lose the battle less severely because you have a stronger bond and then win the war.

Theory 3 (what I would bet on) You are in love with the idea of him and love telling people about it (two ideas that have been stated on here) but you take it a step further. Trust me, I've been there, for 3 years to be exact. The problem with my situation was the girl (I'm bi) I was in love with lived 1,017 miles from me and I always thought that if I could get the opportunity for a real relationship with her my life would be complete because I loved her. I still love her, but as a friend. But enough about me. You have him right there next to you and you can hang out with him but you won't do anything. Why? Because you actually like being where you are. You like that everything that has gone wrong because it's not YOUR fault. If you don't do anything, it can't be your fault. This is the first area where you are wrong, doing nothing IS your fault! Then you come on this website and tell everyone about this great guy you could get with, but you just can't because everything around you just sucks that much and the world is out to get you. Dude, the world is not out to get you and your man. Your just trying to get other people to believe that so you get attention. But with attention comes people like me who actually want to give you advice that works. They're telling you what to do and you LOVE that attention people are giving you. But because actually using one of their ideas, should they end up not working, losing would be your fault for actually listening to them and you couldn't live your love story anymore, the one where society has it out to get 2 people but they overcome all the adversities. I'm not trying to ruin your fantasy, fantasies are the only real reason for living, but I am telling you to either prove me wrong and fucking kiss the boy already, either losing the battle and winning the war or BOTH, or to move onto another fantasy.

Theory 4 (which I thought of when I was writing this lengthy reply) I'm a freshman in college aka I was just in high school. It is REALLY REALLY early for a prom of any kind. No one will get mad if you admit this isn't true and there is a problem because the only reasons why people reply to this thread is because they love drama, in which case they won't really care if this is all a lie, or because they genuinely care about well being. Go see a psychiatrist and you'll win the battle and war.

To summarize, you win the war given any of the situations I've described here. THE ONLY WAY YOU DON'T WIN IS NOT DOING ANYTHING, proving Theory 3 correct but I'd much rather get proved wrong and see someone happy. I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope I'm wrong with the last two but they seem to fit. Regardless of the scenario, just fucking do SOMETHING and feel better kid. :kiss:
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Wasn’t going to say it, but since it’s been brought up;

Theory 5:

This guy’s crush isn’t gay, and isn’t interested but the OP really, really, really wants him to be, and this thread gives him the opportunity to play out this tragically doomed romance. Therefore, there will be plot twists, and obstacles, angst, confusion, and drama; but never ever, ever, resolution.

I suspect we could tell him to move until the stars fall, and there’d always be something standing in the way of true love.

Given the story so far, perhaps the advice should be to move on, since it’s obvious he’ll never move in.
 
We were talking on IM again today for almost 3 hours just talking about life and he never mentioned anything about the girl. On his Myspace, I'm in his top 3 friends and hes not even myspace friends with this girl. On the girls away message for IM, she says why even bother liking someone if they will never like you back. I was thinking to myself, why would she put this if she "made out" with my crush?? Anyways today him and I went out to eat again and he even waited almost 30 minutes in his car for me to get there. I suggested to him we should go out for breakfast tomorrow at a coffee shop and and agreed. I then said sounds like a plan then and he says "no a date haha." He said he wanted to come over my house tonight and then he said he wants to come over tomorrow morning to chill. yay =)
 
today he was even feeling my chest in public... on IM he told me to kiss him and he said he would get me a dog because i was telling him i wanted one. his greeting on IM was "wats cookin good lookin" he even told me he wanted to tell me something important tomorrow and i asked y he couldnt tell now and he said it was too hard to explain... ugh i cant wait for tomorrow yay!
 
Sooo today was a pretty fantastic day =) and I actually made a little move on me IMO. We were together in a room at school and he told me his chest was sore and then he flexed his chest and asked me to feel it and I actually did =) He responded by saying awwwwwww. I was sitting down at a computer and he tried sitting on my seat while I'm sitting We were both squeezed onto a seat and he was getting all over me trying to get the mouse. Now, every now and then, we wrestle and he still like to tap me on the dick. We hung out all day today. I could only leave my house at like 9 and he was out since almost 8 and he didn't do anything until 9. He drove to my house and told me he was there, but I was not ready yet because I was supposed to meet with him at 945 and waited in his car until I was done getting ready. We had breakfast together and then went shopping. He told me he was pissed he had to work today because he couldn't hang out after school. Also at school, he was pretending to "bite" my arm in a playful way and even got his mouth on my car when I wasn't looking. Yesterday and today, he wrote on a piece of paper he loved me and said today, " I love you bro, your like a brother to me." Lots of times today, he wanted to hang out in my car and always waited for me. He got his fingers and pretending they were ants going down my leg. He was also teasing me a lot today and we had tons of fun. I almost forgot, not once today he mentioned the girl. We went to BK to visit some people and she was there and he didn't even sit near her. He was treating her the same as he was treating the other girls.
 
Also, every time I wanted to show him something on my phone, he would always get really close to me. Seriosly his face was like 1 inch away from mine all the time. He gets very happy when he sees me and loves to be around me. We he was sitting near me in class, he would turn to me, and put his feet on the part of my chair in which I sit down. He simply does the sweetest things to me.
 
One day when we were eating, he said to me he is pissed that some of our friends are trying to separate me and him apart.
 
You two are practically dating already. Look him square in the eyes next time he gets close to you and say "I want you to kiss me" with a dead serious look on your face.
 
I'm sorry if I'm being annoying, but I would like to ask one more question. Are him and I already dating?
1. He told me he ditches his friends, (and the girl he "made out" with to be with me)
2. Bought me a coffee without me knowing.
3. Told one of our friends I'm his boyfriend and he started laughing.
4. Says he would miss school to be there for me.
5. Gives me hugs all the time. Two days in a row, him, me and a teacher were in here room and I was on her computer. As soon as she left the room, he gets close to me and hugs me like a thousand times. He says we should wrestle and invited me to his house to workout.
6. Also after she left, he says, "Oh yea it's only me and you now." he lifted up his shirt.
7. Texts me every now and then asking what I'm doing and ends our conversations with, call me tomorrow, or text me later.
8. Says the song "If you seek amy" by Britney Spears is our song.
9. Always get close to me and is more happy and sweeter when hes by himself with me. He treats me better than some of his other friends.
10. We sit together in one of our classes and the teacher said she wanted to change seats. He wants to continue sitting near me.
11. In class, he was feeling my leg and said , "what I know you like it, I know you want me." Before that he said he wanted me too.
12. Asked me to go to the mall with him (he shops at Express) and I had to fill up my gas tank and he wanted to pay for all of my gas. I had 0 gas left.
So, are we already dating?
 
The thing is, he laughs more than half of the time and I don't know if he means everything as a joke. However, this has been going on for almost 2 months everyday. Would a straight guy do all this to another guy for such a long time?
 
Seriously, man....you gotta just come out with it and have a serious conversation with this guy. That's all it'll take. Then all your questions will be answered and you'll know where things stand either way. Wouldn't you rather finally know for sure instead of all this silly guessing? You're making this WAY more difficult than it actually is. None of us here can tell you anything beyond this....Go.....do it.

Sheesh... ;)
 
I am honestly getting bothered right now. Today he asked me to go to the movies and we went together. Only me and him and he even asked me if I wanted some popcorn that he would get me and him some. So we are watching the movie and he is texting through out the whole movie almost and I think it was to that girl. The girl told him she wasn't going to the movies anymore that she was going to a school play, and he decided to be with me than with her. He says hes bothered that I have an early curfew. I heard him mumble me and him should wrestle after the movie. I bring him to his house and he said he had to change his pants and even asked me if I wanted to come inside because no one was home. Obcourse, his whole family just had to go home when I get there ugh. I was telling him I needed gas and he wanted to pay for it. He was insisting he wanted to pay for my gas, like for the whole tank. After the movie, him and I went to a parking lot to hang out and he showed me his phone. I noticed he has the girl name, "(her name) my love." This killed me. I was immediately put in a bad mood and I noticed messages saying my love. I asked him if he wanted to go out with her and he responded by saying, "I don't know and I'll only go out with her if our friend goes out with the girl he likes." I'm thinking, if you really like her, why wouldn't you just ask her out? He then said he was probably going to talk to her in parking lot, just them too. I was getting crushed on the inside, but I never showed it. I'm just confused because sometimes he shows all of this love for me like I'm his boyfriend, then other times he talks about this girl. I know I should have made a move on him earlier, but should I bother now? I still really like him and I want him. Is the whole story with the girl BS and he just wants to make me jealous? Help me please.
 
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