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Nifty.org - Pedophilia Central?

If such is the case, do you believe the law should extend to this kind of material? I mean, just look over some of these stories. Do you feel Nifty is fostering an environment that would encourage child abuse like this?

I am new to this forum. Nifty.org is awful! I have wanted to end my life over just knowing it is there! I am in psychological treatment over it...why would there be stories about kids? Just knowing it is there makes me want to die!

If you guys know it is there and there is that kind of story on there, how do you deal? I am serious! I feel like this biggest son of a bitch for knowing it is there! I am really in need of help, guys!
 
I am new to this forum. Nifty.org is awful! I have wanted to end my life over just knowing it is there! I am in psychological treatment over it...why would there be stories about kids? Just knowing it is there makes me want to die!

If you guys know it is there and there is that kind of story on there, how do you deal? I am serious! I feel like this biggest son of a bitch for knowing it is there! I am really in need of help, guys!

Yikes

Indeed, you probably need more help than an online forum can give you. What does your psycologist say about your thoughts? Crimes are committed every day, by horrible people. You should not want to die because of that, you did nothing wrong.

Nifty.org has got some awful stories posted, but they are just that. Stories. Whether or not those stories are posted online....the real thing happens every day. The only thing you can do about it is live your life the right way. You can't possibly control everything that happens in the world..
 
soregretful, you feel like ending your life over a website on the internet... and so you dug up a 4-year old thread on a different website?

I think you really are in need of help. I highly recommend that you seek it from a licensed professional. I'm being very serious.
 
If you guys know it is there and there is that kind of story on there, how do you deal?

Back button - pure and simple.

The stories are there, but that doesn't mean I must read them.

I'm more concerned with the children to whom these stories are real in every-day life. Nobody can click the back button for them.
 
soregretful, you feel like ending your life over a website on the internet... and so you dug up a 4-year old thread on a different website?

I think you really are in need of help. I highly recommend that you seek it from a licensed professional. I'm being very serious.

I am seeking help....I just feel like complete shit for even knowing it is there. It is amazing how much support I got in just one night....stay with me guys! Thanks!
 
I am seeking help....I just feel like complete shit for even knowing it is there. It is amazing how much support I got in just one night....stay with me guys! Thanks!

I did look up info dealing specifically with this site. The guilt I feel is just horrible. This is the first one that came up. Believe me, I would never hurt a kid, but reading about them, that was so effing stupid! I didn't realize what I was getting into. It is all I can think about anymore!

I am a teacher...would never want to hurt a kid!
 
Back button - pure and simple.

The stories are there, but that doesn't mean I must read them.

I'm more concerned with the children to whom these stories are real in every-day life. Nobody can click the back button for them.

I wish I hadn't stumbled across them! That is why I feel bad!
 
wow, this is a lively debate. I would have to say that, although these stories are there, they're not really reaching anyone who doesn't want to get them in the first place. I will admit that when I was first looking at nifty at the ripe old age of 12, i often frequented the Adult/Youth and Young Friends sections. I liked reading about people my own age and that's where i found them, when i got to be 14ish i moved on to the High School section as I was now in highschool. I know i shouldn't have been reading them at all anyway, but i did and there's nothing to be done about it now is there? no. Anyway, the point is that I read these "Sick" stories because they were about people like me, my age. The thought of my teacher inticed me: I had some hot teachers. I think that the reason the disclaimers are there before each story are so that you don't have to read about what you don't want to. It's all very simple and should certainly not be banned.

And the disclaimers are misleading...saying they are all over 18 when the stories are clearly not that! I just need a brain wipe! I have seriously had a knife to my chest. I feel so bad for having read them...didn't think it would be about little boys!
 
And the disclaimers are misleading...saying they are all over 18 when the stories are clearly not that! I just need a brain wipe! I have seriously had a knife to my chest. I feel so bad for having read them...didn't think it would be about little boys!

Knife to your chest??

GET HELP NOW.
 
I LOVE Nifty!!! BUT I hate the underage stories, mostly in incest section. First of all, I HATE and NOT turned on by pedo stories!

That being said, have you ever being a TEENAGER under 18??? Have u felt what it's like to get HORNY during your puberty? You want to jack off with your dad's/friend's/bro's porn dvds/mags? You picturing yourself having sex with either your underage classmate or adults???

I'm NOT pro pedofile! But I try to be objective! Most people are outright disgusted when we hear underage sex. But have you ever thought what the TEENAGERS want???

That also being said, there are some teenagers who post underage stories at nifty, I'm sure! They express their underage sexual fantasy. And of course there r also sick gay pedo who write stories about hvng sex with 5yo boy (now that's so WRONG!).

yes, I support if Nifty bans underage story. But before you go hating Nifty, think about how you felt when you're just a horny underage teenager!

Hell, I was 13 yo when I learned how to j/o MYSELF. And a year later, I imagined myself getting sexual with my male math teacher.... Did it mean, I tresspass the law when I was 13 coz I imagined my male teacher f***ed me???
 
And the disclaimers are misleading...saying they are all over 18 when the stories are clearly not that! I just need a brain wipe! I have seriously had a knife to my chest. I feel so bad for having read them...didn't think it would be about little boys!

I contributed a few stories to Nifty and mostly all my youngsters were over 18 in my stories. Now that I'm getting older I am mostly putting guys in their mid to late 20s who experience sexual encounters with older men 40+ years of age.

It might be disgusting and sick to a lot of gay men, but if I'm able to make a few people get hard over my stories then I did my job right. That's why I love writing stories, I may never submit them to JUB anymore due to the lack of interest in my genre but hey can't please everyone...

If you are going to END your life over a website, then you shouldn't be on the Internet PERIOD!
 
I contributed a few stories to Nifty and mostly all my youngsters were over 18 in my stories. Now that I'm getting older I am mostly putting guys in their mid to late 20s who experience sexual encounters with older men 40+ years of age.

It might be disgusting and sick to a lot of gay men, but if I'm able to make a few people get hard over my stories then I did my job right. That's why I love writing stories, I may never submit them to JUB anymore due to the lack of interest in my genre but hey can't please everyone...

I understand what u feel GamerBear. I share your feeling. :cry: I post most my gay erotic stories to Nifty, too. They all pass, EXCEPT one with a blackmail ending which surprised me a lot coz Nifty allows underage but can't approve my blackmail ENDING plot? :mad:

I dont bother to post any to JUB coz most of my stories r about authoritarian/domination. I believe it's labeled as rape/violent here. :grrr: In fact, I just complain about blind censorship at http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7501246&posted=1#post7501246

Back to Nifty, it's still a GREAT website! For those who hates underage, stay away from Incest section. Most underage stories reside there. I dont think it's fair to hate Nifty just because of that matter. Underage stories is just a SMALL portion.

The analogy is like throwing away your entire basket of apples because of several rotten apples. It is idiotic, don't you think ????
 
I understand what u feel GamerBear. I share your feeling. :cry: I post most my gay erotic stories to Nifty, too. They all pass, EXCEPT one with a blackmail ending which surprised me a lot coz Nifty allows underage but can't approve my blackmail ENDING plot? :mad:

I dont bother to post any to JUB coz most of my stories r about authoritarian/domination. I believe it's labeled as rape/violent here. :grrr: In fact, I just complain about blind censorship at http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7501246&posted=1#post7501246

Back to Nifty, it's still a GREAT website! For those who hates underage, stay away from Incest section. Most underage stories reside there. I dont think it's fair to hate Nifty just because of that matter. Underage stories is just a SMALL portion.

The analogy is like throwing away your entire basket of apples because of several rotten apples. It is idiotic, don't you think ????

Well to be honest I don't blame them for rejecting a blackmail plot, cause I've been blackmailed before in real life and I know how sensitive such a situation as blackmail can be. It's not something somebody would get turned on by, or even blackmail is not a fun thing to experience in life period.

I do think that there needs to be a disclaimer on their website not just inside the stories because so many people want to read a story that makes them turned on, but sometimes people FAIL to read the warning at top and they ignore it and venture into reading it to see that the young guy in the story is underage and they get pissed off. It's YOUR fault for not reading closely BUT curiosity killed the cat so I would expect some people to be curious about the story.
 
At the heart of this debate is free speech. It's irrefutably undeniable. I agree that such content is atrocious if not as close to evil as you can get. If we start restricting certain segments of free speech who's to say one day political discourse won't be restricted? We need to think about these things before we just blindly start restricting.
I would much rather have a pedophile get his rocks off by reading than by actually doing. However this problem needs a major overhaul. Why aren't we neutering pedophiles?! Scientists overwhelmingly agree pedophilia is incurable. So let's take steps to curb any offenses.
Of course if I had my way, I'd simply have every convicted pedophile execute and the organs donated. I would extend that same policy to convicted rapists. Of course though society wouldn't stand for such draconian barbaric acts.
 
I am seeking help....I just feel like complete shit for even knowing it is there. It is amazing how much support I got in just one night....stay with me guys! Thanks!

Being haunted by an evil you encountered that you didn't know was there can be a burden. But there's one way that can help counter it -- encountering wholesome material of the same kind.

WRT this issue, I recommend you hop to the JUB story forum, and find a classic called "Watching Brad". It is long, and it deals with a lot more than sex -- in fact sex turns out to be spice, not even essential to the story.

And stick with a good counselor.

At the heart of this debate is free speech. It's irrefutably undeniable. I agree that such content is atrocious if not as close to evil as you can get. If we start restricting certain segments of free speech who's to say one day political discourse won't be restricted? We need to think about these things before we just blindly start restricting.
I would much rather have a pedophile get his rocks off by reading than by actually doing. However this problem needs a major overhaul. Why aren't we neutering pedophiles?! Scientists overwhelmingly agree pedophilia is incurable. So let's take steps to curb any offenses.
Of course if I had my way, I'd simply have every convicted pedophile execute and the organs donated. I would extend that same policy to convicted rapists. Of course though society wouldn't stand for such draconian barbaric acts.

No -- not one person has mentioned the heart of this debate, though a number have alluded to it: the heart is human beings still in their formative years, persons universally recognized as needing aid and guidance in building themselves into whole and strong people.

It's undeniable that Nifty's stories are contributing to the sexual abuse of children -- it's impossible for that to not be the case. That alone should make you want to deal with them the way you propose for other sexual offenders.

They're probably contributing to the safety of a few children, too, by providing a fantasy outlet for a few men who then don't act out. But the web is not the place for that!

As a former educator, however briefly, I had one principle pounded into me: whatever you do, teaches. By allowing this material on the web, we as a society are teaching. So, what is the lesson? That's easy: that it's okay to subject pre-pubescents to sexual activity, for which they are not equipped.

That's a direct contradiction of the lesson those kids need to learn in order to be whole individuals when they grow up -- that they own themselves. The stories teach that underage kids are fair game because adults have power and might makes right. They teach that children are objects which exist for the pleasure of adults who want to abuse them. They teach that children are victims, prey for whoever wants to be a predator.

That is not acceptable -- this material is an offense against the very foundations of morality.


Is some pedophilia acceptable in a story? Perhaps. Here are some plot lines in which it could be:
  • young man was abused as a child and struggles with those demons in order to be free to love
  • young woman who was abused as a child seeks to dispel her inner demons by becoming a private investigator tracking down pedophiles and bringing them to justice
  • father goes to borrow a tool from his neighbor, only to discover that neighbor using his eleven-year old son for sex; the father shoots the neighbor with the nail gun he went to borrow; he goes to trial and the jury finds it justifiable
  • plumber who visits the house regularly begins sexually using the nine-year old twins, a boy and girl; when they learn he is coming again, they plot to arrange an accident with chemicals under the sink; he doesn't die but is turned into a vegetable, barely able to care for himself
  • boy joins the SAS (gotta get the Brits in here) and becomes a highly decorated elite of the elite in special operations, especially urban; during one operation he confronts a child huddled crying in a closet; he is hit by a flashback of himself in a similar place, after being raped by a salesman; he leaves the military and embarks on his own private war to kill pedophiles; after his thirty-ninth kill, he is caught by an Interpol agent, who after a struggle with his conscience allows the hero to make his fortieth kill; instead of being prosecuted, he is recruited to go after an international ring of pedophiles


Those would be acceptable. Anything so much as suggesting approval or glorifying sex with pre-pubescent kids is vile.

I'll add one other plot type that could be acceptable:

man discovers he's a pedophile when he comes within inches of acting out; terrified of being revealed, he avoids going for therapy, but instead embarks on a quest to deal with it himself; in the course of over a decade of struggle, through which he is reduced to poverty, he discovers balance and becomes whole, enough so that he goes on to become very well-to-do, and a mentor to struggling pedophiles, to whom he gives one absolutely inviolable instruction: never, ever associate with anyone young enough you couldn't take him to a bar and have a drink together
 
Well to be honest I don't blame them for rejecting a blackmail plot, cause I've been blackmailed before in real life and I know how sensitive such a situation as blackmail can be. It's not something somebody would get turned on by, or even blackmail is not a fun thing to experience in life period.
Well, it's just an end plot, a few sentences epilogue. And not for erotic purpose. It's like, ok A later gets this and that, the end. Harmless!

The same goes to movies about murders. Who said it's fun to get hacked to pieces? But many people LOVE seeing murder movies, right? But of course if you're nearly get killed, you'll hate movies about murders coz it brings back your traumatic experience.



I do think that there needs to be a disclaimer on their website not just inside the stories because so many people want to read a story that makes them turned on, but sometimes people FAIL to read the warning at top and they ignore it and venture into reading it to see that the young guy in the story is underage and they get pissed off. It's YOUR fault for not reading closely BUT curiosity killed the cat so I would expect some people to be curious about the story.

As Nifty visitors, most underage stories DO have disclaimer saying that it's about underage. Some dont write it but they put the code M/m or M/b. I rarely read misleading disclaimer.
 
Well, it's just an end plot, a few sentences epilogue. And not for erotic purpose. It's like, ok A later gets this and that, the end. Harmless!

The same goes to movies about murders. Who said it's fun to get hacked to pieces? But many people LOVE seeing murder movies, right? But of course if you're nearly get killed, you'll hate movies about murders coz it brings back your traumatic experience.

I would agree, sometimes being kicked in the balls can seem like a turn on while others find it to be ouch. Same goes for things like 9/11, people find it sick and disgusting watching a video of planes crashing into buildings. But for me I didn't see that what I saw were brave Americans risking their lives to save hundreds of people out of a building. I was watching a video of firefighters putting out a mountain fire, people would probably think I enjoy seeing fires, no I enjoy seeing firefighters putting their lives on the line to put out a fire so other people don't lose their homes.

There are so many genres of erotica it's just that some of them get censored because people get offended by it.
 
Once again this thread is brought back from the grave :lol:

Some interesting additional perspectives.
 
I didn't mean about the offended part of underage, I meant the offended part of your blackmail plot. People tend to get offended with any kind situation so they tend to not post certain stories that might contain something in the story that might offend. Like maybe racism in a story.

LOL I thought we're talking about underage and Nifty? :) You can visit my thread http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7501246&posted=1#post7501246 I discuss about censorship in erotica. I don't want mod to think I deliberately pull this thread away from topic.

So what do you think about the underage limit? Have you seen the pix I post above? Nifty has A LOT of 16yo 'boys' stories. Underage too? What do u say?
 
So what do you think about the underage limit? Have you seen the pix I post above? Nifty has A LOT of 16yo 'boys' stories. Underage too? What do u say?

Already been to your thread and commented about it.

Since I don't find guys my age or younger attractive (Due mostly to their immaturity issues) I never really at all took any kind of interest in underage stories.

I avoid all that but sadly they are in the same kind of category with Adult Youth. I tend to usually go with stories where the guy is in his mid 30s and the other in their late 50s.

Should there be a underage category for people who write stories like that, yes there should be one cause it gets mixed in with stories that have no underage guys in it.

But I have much to say but I will not say it cause I would only be opening a can of worms, plus right now I believe I'm the most hated JUB member at the moment so I best not say anything!
 
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