Now, I realize that not ALL Christians are fucked in the head...

[JasunStrikesBack]

But WTF is this?

Ok.. a buddy sent me this link with "are they fucking serious" written under it.

Apparently in an effort to teach kids about God, they swallowed live goldfish while everyone laughed and cheered. Because nothing says "Jesus" more than killing common house pets. Over this odd display is a sign that says "Instructions before leaving Earth" which sounds to me like this is a suicide cult... and I guess... since they're showing that killing small animals is entertaining... I guess that's the next step.




Am I the only one who's just confused and rather disgusted by this?

 

[Bradude]

WTF does this have to do with Hot Men & Gay Porn?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Nothing... oops.. was supposed to be posted in "hot topics"

Serves me right for having a second coffee.

 

[ronboy]

I'll move it to HT for you Jasun.....

No worries.....

 

[G-Lexington]

I guess the same thing that being forced to put on a diaper and live in a small cage has to do with being gay. Some people take a simple idea to rather bizarre and not-entirely-logical extremes.

Lex

 

[timboy]

i half expected a pic of a priest getting fucked in the arse

 

[Lukeee]

That is cruel and disgusting. I wonder if he got sick from that.

 

[ABoyNamedSue]

Better place the gold fish on the protected species list a lot more or going to be disappearing.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

For example, chefs in the US and Europe throw live lobsters into boiling water, and cooks all over the world do this with live clams. In the Orient, kitties and doggies are thrown alive into cages, 100 at a time, stacked on top of one another, and are taken out of these cages and slaughtered on the spot for diners. In Spain (or is it Greece?), live goats are thrown off balconies for sport. And we have Neanderthal Ted Nugent, who openly brags about hunting for sport.

But do they do this as a form of entertainment for kids at Jesus Camp?

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>But do they do this as a form of entertainment for kids at Jesus Camp?

No, they do it in the name of "gastronomic excellence". I don't know if doing something damned silly (and rather cruel) for your stomach is necessarily any better than doing it for your soul.

"Shallowing live fishes"?

Lex

 

[wastingmymind]

I don't think he is. Read the thread title again.

Actually, he kinda does. Change the word "Christians" to "Blacks" or "Lesbians" or...you get the point.

But that doesn't mean I'm not purely on one side on this matter. It's baffling to see how some of US regard fish having no soul but a fetus does.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I can tell you that as someone who grew up with lots of pet fish that had names... I would have been traumatized beyond words by seeing that.

How anyone could think killing animals, even soulless fish, could be something appropriate to do in front of kids is astonishing.. that it was done at a bible school is... well.. incomprehensible. That they were doing it as a form of entertainment with a "get ready to die" banner over them is just downright creepy as fuck.

 

[G-Lexington]

At the same time, it's perhaps best to know that these "Christians" are prepare-to-die fish-swallowers right up front. Let the parents know what they're up against. "If you're looking to teach your kids to look forward to death, and that swallowing fish is a good Bible lesson, then you've dropped your kids off at the right place!"

Lex

 

[CGHJ]

I'm a heartless bastard I guess...prolly from hanging around marines all day so I see a lot bigger animals than these getting killed for much weaker reasons. Not to mention all the stories about _________ getting _________ in _________ (trust me if I filled in those blanks it would ruin your entire month). But goldfish? I feed live mice to my tarantula, and I used to feed feeder fish to my snakes...you know I lurv u but it's just a fish bro

Besides, it was just a gimmick to get kids on a bus, it's not like it's part of their religion ( a la pentacostal sanke handlers) or something. And the 'instructions before leaving Earth' is just a fun way of getting people ready for what their religion believes the bible says is coming, even though A) the bible is just a bunch of stuff made up by bronze age shepherds and B) it doesn't really say that anyway. Something like 60% of the american population thinks that Jeebuz is coming back in their lifetime, which is a whole other issue and depressing as hell as far as I'm concerned..but not even remotely outside of the mainstream. It's not like these guys are Heaven's Gaters with a big thing of Kool-Aide waiting for them in the back.

My point being, that even though I'm an atheist and I think all religions are inherently silly, on a scale of 1-10 this rates about a 1.5. There's a lot more inappropriate things going on in front of kids than this, that's for damn sure. I'd much rather kids see this than half the shit they see on TV.

Now if they're teaching these kids that the world was created in 7 days 6000 years ago, or that ho-mo-sex-uals or evil, then that would be something that would get my ire up, but I gather that's in a different video.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I'm a heartless bastard I guess...prolly from hanging around marines all day so I see a lot bigger animals than these getting killed for much weaker reasons. Not to mention all the stories about _________ getting _________ in _________ (trust me if I filled in those blanks it would ruin your entire month). But goldfish? I feed live mice to my tarantula, and I used to feed feeder fish to my snakes...you know I lurv u but it's just a fish bro

No, I get that. But don't you think it's fucked up to kill animals of any kind as entertainment for kids at a church?

That's what I'm on about.

I mean, I kill black widow spiders every day... they're around my house. I carry a shotgun up the hill here every day when I set traps for the land squirrels just in case a coyote comes too close to me.

But I wouldn't do it to entertain kids at a church. I mean, what kind of church teaches kids that torturing animals is fun?

 

[nafhoosier]

Why the negativity towards Christianity?

So there's a fucked up Church teaching kids how to skewer animals......I'd be much more afraid of an atheist who doesn't believe in the idea of being punished in the afterlife for his deeds.

P.S. - I know this thread was meant to be a joke

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Why the negativity towards Christianity?

do you really need to ask that on a gay forum?

I'd be much more afraid of an atheist who doesn't believe in the idea of being punished in the afterlife for his deeds.

In my experience, atheists tend to think more about what's "right" and "wrong" and less about doing wrong things and then asking God to forgive them later. I don't know of many wars started in the name of "no god."

P.S. - I know this thread was meant to be a joke

Um...no, it wasn't. I really do think that's the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. It makes me more scared of Christians... makes me think they're sociopathic.

 

[nafhoosier]

do you really need to ask that on a gay forum?

I didn't think this was an anti-Christian forum

I don't associate the anti-gay Christian nuts with the fundamentals of Christianity. How fair is that?

 

[CGHJ]

No, I get that. But don't you think it's fucked up to kill animals of any kind as entertainment for kids at a church?

That's what I'm on about.

I mean, I kill black widow spiders every day... they're around my house. I carry a shotgun up the hill here every day when I set traps for the land squirrels just in case a coyote comes too close to me.

But I wouldn't do it to entertain kids at a church. I mean, what kind of church teaches kids that torturing animals is fun?

If they were electrocuting puppies then sure, but a couple feeder goldfish? It's not like they're stabbing them or smooshing them or anything...I think its sweet that you care about all the little creatures but it just seems pretty minor to me. Something you might take the pastor aside to gently reprimand..."hey, don't you think it would have been more in keeping with God's Word to offer them cookies as a reward for getting people on the bus instead?" Except more animals were probably harmed making the chocolate than were harmed in this video. When you said 'fucked in the head' I thought it was gonna be something serious!

Don't get me wrong though...although I don't think the 'instructions for leaving earth' poster is in any way out of the norm for mainstream christianity...I do totally believe that it's a sad, sad commentary on the current state of mainstream christianity that they are so willing and even excited to believe in Revelations and End-Times Eschatology. In fact, I'll even go so far as to disagree with you that 'not ALL Christians are fucked in the head'. Like I said polls show that a majority of christians do believe that the End-Times are a comin' and soon, and I do think that's totally fucked in the head.

The fish part doesn't register for me nor do I think it's particularly cruel. However I would much rather see these kids getting on a bus to the planetarium.

Wanna get ME totally fired up? Let me see one of those church groups that goes to the science museum and teaches the kids that everything they see is bullshit, and that dinosaurs ate coconuts. Manslaughter case in 3..2...

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

If they were electrocuting puppies then sure, but a couple feeder goldfish? It's not like they're stabbing them or smooshing them or anything...

So eating them alive is a more humane way to kill them?

I think its sweet that you care about all the little creatures but it just seems pretty minor to me.

Oh I don't.. Since my last post I shot a possom that was burrowing up on the hill over the Jake Cruise ranch.

I just think it's odd to eat live animals under a sign that says essentially "get ready to die and meet God" as a form of entertainment. For grade school kids.