Obama Supporters Boo Sheila Jackson Lee in TX

[JackFTwist]

Obama! Obama! Obama!

Heil! Heil! Heil!
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You see here is a perfect example of what Clinton inspires from her supporters - conduct not only outrageous but very approved by the other Clinton supporters, mod included, when did they object, it is Clinton fans who obviously favor of Nazi references, this is what Clinton inspires from her people

shameful

 

[NickCole]

It would be silly indeed, and redundant. However, it's not unexpected that constituents will be upset with their voice being defeated by their representative, who, with one vote, silences them all. And it isn't unexpected that superdelegates will be looked upon with disdain by those who see them as each getting a second and far more superior vote like what SCOTUS had in 2000 that defeated Gore. Considering how many times we have "death to the electoral college" threads around here, and the name of the party, it isn't surprising that a decidedly far worse set-up is going to be criticized, one with a SCOTUS super-decision built-in on purpose, especially when the contest isn't going to get to 2025 by the people.

Oh stop whining like you live in an oppressive totalitarian regime or something.

We're a Democracy and the government belongs to us. If you don't like the way Primaries and Elections are run, do something to change it. But first you ought to learn enough about them --and how other Democracies are run-- to understand what's going on.

You sound a lot like Wright: the big bad MAN is out there oppressing us. Hogwash. Nobody climbs on my back unless I let him.

The fallacy is that you claimed I said that when I did not. Why are you misinterpreting my posts?

I didn't interpret or misinterpret anything you said; I never thought of you or mentioned you. Where does your name appear in my post? It was posted to khushibagh.

 

[NickCole]

And "MRS." Malaprop? Such a misogynistic, sexist comment---would your mother be proud of such a comment? Such... another example of your hypocrisy?

Nothing remotely sexist or misogynistic about it.

Sure my mother would be proud of that comment. She's always been pleased that I'm a well educated guy. She'd get my reference because she's familiar with Sheridan's work.

 

[khushibagh]

The superdelegate category was created for a reason, and it was not to cast another vote going along with the popular vote of one's district or state. I mean that would be really silly -- why even bother with appointing actual people to add redundant votes? Treating party leaders like empty headed go-alongs is a lot more ridiculous than expecting them to make informed independent decisions.
The hypocrisy is not that they're voting for Obama, it's saying (when it benefits Obama) that superdelegates should vote along with their constituency and then not doing that themselves.

You're missing the point. Superdelegates are free to vote however they want but that doesn't mean that (i) they shouldn't take into account how the popular vote went in either their constituency or more generally or (ii) voters have no right to criticize or even vote against party leaders who use their superdelegate status to further a candidate those voters don't support.

The Hillary supporters want to have their cake and eat it too - they expect the superdelegates to overrule their constituents because of their "informed independent" judgment but then they start frothing at the mouth if anyone says that the superdelegates should then be prepared to justify their vote.

Nancy Pelosi got jumped on and threatened because she said that it would be a bad thing for the party if a group of hacks overruled the voters presumably because voters would be hurt and angry. Why is it wrong for Rep. Lee's constituents to be upset at her vote? Maybe she'll convince them that she was doing the right thing or maybe she'll be history, either way ultimately it's the voters' choice.

 

[NickCole]

You're missing the point. Superdelegates are free to vote however they want but that doesn't mean that (i) they shouldn't take into account how the popular vote went in either their constituency or more generally or (ii) voters have no right to criticize or even vote against party leaders who use their superdelegate status to further a candidate those voters don't support.

I don't miss that point.

In fact I agree with it.

The Hillary supporters want to have their cake and eat it too - they expect the superdelegates to overrule their constituents because of their "informed independent" judgment but then they start frothing at the mouth if anyone says that the superdelegates should then be prepared to justify their vote.

I've not seen any Hillary supporter froth at the mouth if someone says a superdelegate should be prepared to justify their vote. Can you show examples of that?

I fully agree superdelegates should be prepared to justify their vote. And Sheila Jackson Lee has done that -- she's explained why she's sticking with Hillary Clinton.

Why is it wrong for Rep. Lee's constituents to be upset at her vote? Maybe she'll convince them that she was doing the right thing or maybe she'll be history, either way ultimately it's the voters' choice.

Disagreeing with it is one thing but that booing was an intimidation thing. Obama's camp and supporters have consistently used intimidation on the Internet, at rallies and caucuses and behind the scenes. When a leader and his followers use intimidation while claiming to be a uniter, that's leading to something very destructive.

 

[JackFTwist]

NickCole, really wouldn't the problem have been solved if "Honest Hillary" and her Mod Squad of Chelsea, Sinbad, and Sheryl Crow had landed in their copter and shot all those blanketeky blank blank Heil yellers?

 

[NickCole]

NickCole, really wouldn't the problem have been solved if "Honest Hillary" and her Mod Squad of Chelsea, Sinbad, and Sheryl Crow had landed in their copter and shot all those blanketeky blank blank Heil yellers?

The problem would be solved if Obama supporters actually engaged in discussion rather than bullying and a "just yell louder" strategy.

Representative Jackson Lee has earned better than that from her constituents.

I looked at that second video after ICO7 asked me to. Her speech was terrific, nothing even remotely negative about Obama. It was positive and powerful and unifying. And yet the African Americans in that audience booed her and booed Maya Angelou. They booed for one reason -- because either you're with Obama or you're undeserving of any respect at all, you must be shouted down, bullied, shut up, banished, no matter how you behave or what you stand for or what you've done with your life. They keep trying to bully Hillary Clinton into closing down her campaign and leaving the race even though half the Democratic voters support her.

Each day it becomes more clear and more disturbing.

 

[JackFTwist]

Representative Jackson Lee has earned better than that from her constituents.

<clip> And yet the African Americans in that audience booed her and booed Maya Angelou. They booed for one reason -...

1. Is it more offensive for people to boo their representative or for a guy from New York tell people in Texas what they ought to do? Both are protected acts in the Constitution.

2. On the tape, one person only boos Maya Angelou. Are we going to go through a think like "Clinton's people did not campaign in Michigan - other than when they did" thing on this?

3. They booed for ONE reason and guess what - you, up in New York, look into the souls and hearts of a crowd of people in Texas and you tell us what they are thinking, right? Are you Karnac the Magnificant? Are you God? Are you Bruce Almighty? What gives you such insightful powers that you know what lies in the heart of strangers 2,000 miles from you? Is that the same authority that you use to tell other people all the time what they should do?

I am really serious - you have some strong superhuman powers to tell others what to think and even more what they are thinking. I think your talents are wasted here. Your ability to tell others what to do and tell us what others are thinking is too amazing for mere posts on a gay porn board. I think you should be head of the UN and serve as the sole juror on every trial in the world, for starters. Then maybe judge the Cannes Film Festival... select the next Ms Brazil... be the sole panelist on every tv talk show... have a nightly act in Vegas... write the Farmer's Almanac...

 

[Centexfarmer]

Centex, I don't buy that at all.

Personally, I don't care whether you accept, or buy my words or experience or not.

I know what I saw, and I know what I experienced.

You are personally disgruntled because after changing your mind several times you picked the wrong candidate in your district and you got voted off your state party position. It is personal to you now. You are angry because you got the boot by the other side since they outnumbered your side.

No, not really. I'm miffed by the tone and rancor in which it happened, and which I experienced these events from Obama supporters.

There was nothing civil, or even remotely logical in the emotive action that those individuals took.

There were a few Obama supporters, African-American I might ad, who openly defended my right to remain there, and defending my 16 years of service to the party, and even THEY were shouted down.

You weren't there, so how could you know?

You are not the only person that ever happened to, I know what it feels like, when I lost my state central spot when the Mondale/UAW folks dumped me because I was for Hart. Since then I have played it as it is - it is politics.

I know what it is like to be a county chair and have a bunch of newcomers show up and try and change the way "we" have always done it. Who says they are wrong? It always disconcerts when "new people" show up to challenge the way us old timers have done it. So you lost on that one, too bad. That's politics, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

You picked the wrong candidate for your district and you lost. I know that before that evening you and the most wonderful local party and then all these ****new***** people showed up and fucked it all up and who are they and where were they when you had the fund raiser in 2005...

too bad centex, it is the nature of the game. I will not get elected to the county executive board next time because last time I supported the guy who won (by one vote...) and is not running again so they will get me back next year.

You think that in 16 years of being a Democratic grass-roots activist that I haven't lost a few battles for being behind the wrong candidate, resolution, or campaign?

I have, and I'm telling you that I've NEVER seen anything like this.

But yes, these obama people you say, the lowest class trash ever, not at all dignified, not restrained, not genteel, not all polite, not like a normal Texas Democrat....

I've never used those words, much less thought them about those that I encountered during my precinct convention.

And what do you personally know of Texas Democratic Politics?

I'd venture to say nothing.

We're loud, we fight like family, we sometimes even beat the shit out of each other, but once the issue is resolved, and a vote is taken, we pick each other up off of the floor, put the furniture back in place, and move on to the next agenda item as if nothing ever happened.

I'm proud to be a Texas Democrat for that very reason. That African-American Democrats, Hispanic Democrats, Men, Woman, Gay, Straight, Christian and Pagan alike, share that quality with the Texas Democratic Party that I know.

Not this group. Not the group that I encountered. Either you're with them, and behind their candidate 100%, or they have no use for you.

oh who do we think we're kidding about restrained Texas Democrats?

Like I said, being from Michigan, what do you know of the internal dynamics of the Texas Democratic Party?

NickCole whines about everything. NickCole and perhaps you think that it is all right for others to do what you approve first. Note in another thread that he approved the booing of Bush. It is ok to boo the president, per NickCole, but not a US representative, because NickCole likes Lee and hates Bush. Sorry, we do not all his insights into things. Of course when a poll favors Hillary, he posts it. When a poll is posted favoring Obama, he complains that a poll means nothing.

When someone attacks Obama, he favors it because Obama needs to be "vetted." Someone attacks Hillary, he is in tears. Obama is a wiump and cannot take it but people are just nasty wasty nasty to Hillary, the meanies. The hypocrasy abounds. That is also the name of the game.

No one executed represenastve Lee, she was not guillitined, her house was not burned down: she was booed, an expression covered by the Bill of Rights. She was booed at a political convention. And some folks are having queen-like fits. Oh get real and grow up.

And, as a Moderator I allowed a comment like this, but some how we're being uneven handed, and showing favoritism.

I allowed these comments from you to NickCole, even though I could make a strong argument with the Mod team that this is a direct personal attack, and therefore a violation of our Rules of Engagement, and the Code of Conduct because I know that NickCole can take care of himself.

He's a man, he can deal with it without the need to nail himself to a cross in every other thread/post.

The owners of this website, want this forum to be as free flowing, and full of exchanges as possible. It's one of the many things that sets CE&P apart from the other forums on this website.

Perhaps my fellow Moderators and I could do a better job "moderating" this forum, but whenever we've tried, it's "we're damned if we do, and we're damned if we dont."

Sorry you lost your spot. I've lost mine before and will lose mine next year. You picked the wrong candidate. Too bad.

See, I don't live in a "right or wrong" world.

My world is governed by the law of "Cause and Effect."

I accept personal responsibility for the events that happened to me, and frankly, it is what it is. There's know way that I could have possibly known that things were going to go the way that they did.

The point of NickCole's thread here, was to point out the fervancy that Obama supporters attempted to shout Representative Sheila Jackson Lee down.

I felt her pain, and responded with my own personal experience.

By the way, I've met Representative Lee on many occasions, and she's a really nice person to know. It would be ashame to loose her as a Representative, and the influence that she's earned in Washington, because she supported the "wrong candidate" too.

Let me say goodbye to everyone now for having the gall to speak to a mod as directly as he spoke to us, but I erred in disagreeing with said mod and was not on the mod's side. A bannable offense if suspension is not enough for being so rude. Goodbye all until the revolution...

I hope the next thread is on how quietly sedate Texas Democrats always act other than those, ah, you know, those, ah.... Obama ones, shall we say.

You're funny.

 

[MystikWizard]

I allowed these comments from you to NickCole, even though I could make a strong argument with the Mod team that this is a direct personal attack, and therefore a violation of our Rules of Engagement, and the Code of Conduct because I know that NickCole can take care of himself.

He's a man, he can deal with it without the need to nail himself to a cross in every other thread/post.

The owners of this website, want this forum to be as free flowing, and full of exchanges as possible. It's one of the many things that sets CE&P apart from the other forums on this website.

Perhaps my fellow Moderators and I could do a better job "moderating" this forum, but whenever we've tried, it's "we're damned if we do, and we're damned if we dont."

I personally like the way the CE&P Forum is moderated. Even though I've seen it posted that other posters avoid this particular Forum like the plague, this is in essence, a Big Boys Forum. Mud is thrown back and forth on a daily basis, but obviously none of us take it to heart, or we wouldn't keep coming back to fight another day. It simply is the tone of the Forum during this Primary Process, things get heated, and then they'll be back to Normal once the Primaries are over.

 

[Centexfarmer]

You see here is a perfect example of what Clinton inspires from her supporters - conduct not only outrageous but very approved by the other Clinton supporters, mod included, when did they object, it is Clinton fans who obviously favor of Nazi references, this is what Clinton inspires from her people

shameful

But yet, you're so hell bent on improving the debate around here, that you make no comment to the Mods or anyone else when your fellow Obama supporter continously makes remarks like this one:

Hillary knows her supporters are stupid and uneducated. She also knows they're voting with their vaginas (the men too).

She's able to smear Obama with impunity because of her stupid and moronic supporters.

I've even been personally accused, in this very thread no doubt, of equating all supporters of Senator Obama of having been "Drinking the Kool-Aid," under all of the definitions provided in Wikipedia.

Doing a Forum Search for the word "Kool-Aid," and it appears quite a bit in CE&P btw, my last use of that term dates all the way back to March 15, 2008 in this thread:

What if superdelegates side with Hillary?

I've never once, anywhere, equated ALL supporters of Senator Obama as being under the influence of "Kool-Aid," under any of those definitions. (Except perhaps, when challenged, to suggest, "if the shoe fits wear it.")

As I've stated previously, NickCole expressed his concerns and reservations in the thread that he created here, followed by comments left by you and Midnight77 in my first post in this thread #28.

If you read my posts in the What if superdelegates thread, you'll see that I mentioned that my best-friend is a supporter of Senator Obama.

Do we paint each other with such broad brush strokes because she voted for Obama, and I voted for Clinton during the Texas primaries?

Do we attempt to "shout each other down," or guilt trip the other for any perceived errors?

Do we call each other names?

Not on your life.

Why?

Because we know and respect each other.

But when I make references to those having drank the "Kool-Aid" amongst Obama supporters, she acknowledges that there is a vocal element that support him that don't give one flying rats ass about the Democratic Party, or it's processes. "They know what they like, and there's something wrong with you if you don't agree."

I also acknowledge, and agree when she says, "There are certain supporters of Hillary Clinton that could never vote for a black man, and are too fearful of what will happen to our country if such a change should ever present itself."

She'll also tell you that I'm not one of those.

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There's no respect in this Forum for opposing views, or support for another person's candidate amongst Democrats here, or Independents for that matter.

We're supposed to be united, and encourage the debate within our party, and within our country because to me it's makes the other a better candidate.

I personally think that Senator Clinton has helped Senator Obama sharpen his campaigning skills, and to prepare him better for the Republican "slime-machine," that he's only remotely getting a taste of, if nothing else.

JackFTwist, you're one of the few members here, and one of the few Obama supporters that I believe I could talk to about our party, the politics taking place behind the scenes, and at the end of the day, if we didn't reach some sort of consensus could at least agree to disagree.

I've seen you struggle with that in some of your posts.

My point is that, we all tend to lose site of the fact that we're all Gay Men posting in a Current Events and Politics Forum in an Adult Gay Porn site.

We're not statistics, or demographics, or any of the other broad generalizations that we get painted over and by regardless of which candidate we support.

If I could find a "one-size" fits all way to Moderate all of that, I would, but I'm not getting much help from either of the parties/members involved.

What's a girl to do?

 

[Centexfarmer]

I personally like the way the CE&P Forum is moderated. Even though I've seen it posted that other posters avoid this particular Forum like the plague, this is in essence, a Big Boys Forum. Mud is thrown back and forth on a daily basis, but obviously none of us take it to heart, or we wouldn't keep coming back to fight another day. It simply is the tone of the Forum during this Primary Process, things get heated, and then they'll be back to Normal once the Primaries are over.

Even if that means that Gay Republicans will then catch as much grief as the Clinton and Obama supporters are giving each other now?

Back when I was first tapped to join the Mod Team, there were only three or four openly Gay Republicans posting in this forum.

All of the other posters here spent every other thread bashing Bush, or the Gay Republicans who apparently supported his agenda/administration.

Careful what you ask for.

 

[seamusnewwest]

Your anecdotal evidence is far from a "fact". The very obvious posts of iman, NickCole, springboksfan, and the Nazi-referencing seamusnewwest is a fact readily available that you can address, if you dare want to talk about where problems lie.

Or, in your own words, "Pot, meet Kettle."

I'm not sure it's fair to lump us all together to get the "pot meets kettle" thing. We haven't all come from the same position or said the same thing. As for my "Heil" reference, I refer specifically to the tactic of shouting down someone who is speaking, and who's turn it is to speak. Now, I can't say what is normal in America or in the Democratic party, but here in Canada, even in the heat of leadership conventions, I have NEVER seen the supporters of one candidate boo or shout down another. It would be considered offensive to free speech and undemocratic to do so, not to mention disrespectful towards the honestly held opinions within the same party. There is a level of decorum and mutual respect that is expected. Also, should such a thing happen, you can bet that the candidate would immediately call on their supporters to show restraint, and not be silent and let it ride. But maybe things are culturally different in America and this booing your own party people is the norm, I wouldn't know. If that's what the Obama people do on the floor of the national convention, then they simply don't deserve the support of the other party members who are treated that way come November. I'm a supporter of the Democratic Party, but I'm not beholden to it no matter what.

I've called for people to unite behind the final candidate, but before you call me a black pot, I haven't called for "unity," because I actually believe in differences and diversity. And I believe they should be respected.

Given that Obama is in the lead, and that his camp has a far greater interest in there being no hard feelings at the end, they are showing extraordinarily little grace or even sense in how they are handling and dealing with those who are in the minority. If Clinton is booed at the national convention, and Obama remains silent about that behaviour, he is not the calibre of man who deserves my support.

You are right about one thing - the Democratic party isn't democratic. They favoured certain states by allowing them, and only them, to vote early. They are refusing to count the votes of the citizens in two other states, or to allow them a new vote, people whose only crime for which they are being disenfranchised is that their leaders rightfully wanted their votes to count just us much as the votes of people in other states in the country. They are pressuring people, "superdelegates," who have been duly elected and who have a right to vote to cast their vote according to a group mentality, and not in accordance with their own democratic conscience. And now, they are employing the tactic of silencing and drowning out the minority voice. Next comes the witchhunts, and the campaign of revenge against those who did not support the Great Leader. I've seen it up close in several countries, and I don't like it. Maybe I am overly framed by those experiences, but I have a contempt for the cult of personality and charismatic campaigns. They invite us to turn off our brains, hold only those opinions that are acceptable to the group, face ostracization or punishment if we actually demand anything of the leader or hold a dissenting point of view. I've seen it in other countries. I'm sad to see it in America. Sorry, but that is how I feel. And I wish you also felt the same way, but I've learned that Obama can do no wrong, and neither can his followers, so no concern or criticism is ever treated as valid.
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[White Eagle]

I lived in Houston for 22 years. I left in 1991 so I was not there when Ms Jackson Lee was elected to her position. But I have known of her long before I left. She is a wonderful person, well liked by her constituents.
I wish I would have searched the KHOU site longer than I did. I used the first link that had a good video of the speech. There are at least 3 links at the TV sta site that had the video on it. This last one (below) is by the reporter who covered the speech. It explains more to what went on at the convention. Ms Jackson Lee has been Representative of Dist 18 for 17 years or more. In her speech she says she has been loyal to Clinton for more than a decade. I wish she had said exactly how long. I feel her loyalty belongs to her constituents. I also still feel that Obama has nothing to do with the actions of his supporters. It was constituents speaking to their Representative. All in all I expect this to be the last term for Ms Jackson Lee.
Have a look-see at this new link. It may stop all this debate of the situation. At least I hope so.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/politics/stories/khou080329_tj_jacksonlee.11d275a3.html

Sheila Jackson Lee at odds with constituents

10:04 AM CDT on Sunday, March 30, 2008

By Wendell Edwards / 11 News

HOUSTON -- On the campus of Texas Southern University was a Democratic Senate District convention unlike the others being held across the state.

Democrats together, but yet still divided over who should be the Democratic presidential nominee.

And never more was that more apparent than when longtime Houston Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee took the stage.

A majority of the crowd showed its support for Barack Obama by shouting his name and booing the congresswoman, letting her know what they thought of her allegiance to Hillary Clinton.

To some, especially Clinton supporters at the convention, the booing came out of nowhere.

"I was a little surprise there was that kind of activity going on,” said Jeffery, who is a Clinton supporter.

But for those backing Obama, they said it sent a clear message to the congresswoman from her constituents.

"For her to standout against the wishes of her district and be a Clinton supporter, I guess pissed off our delegation,” said Obama supporter Phillip.

For years, Sheila Jackson Lee has been a popular politician in the 18th Congressional district; winning re-election overwhelmingly at least five times since 1995. The district is predominately made of up African American voters.

"It is always tough to go into the face of adversity,” she admitted to the chorus of boos she received Saturday.

But could the disfavor from those who support Obama, hurt Jackson Lee?

"We are somewhat in uncharted waters,” said 11 News political expert Bob Stein. “It simply reflects the fact that Lee is in tough position here.

“Her district when 90-percent to 10-percent for Obama.”

For Jackson-Lee though, it is all about keeping her word.

"What would I be if I went back on my word to an individual that I've worked with for more than a decade and sat down talked to me about her vision for America,” said Jackson Lee.

Now, I think the repeat of this is in order.

 

[NickCole]

I lived in Houston for 22 years. I left in 1991 so I was not there when Ms Jackson Lee was elected to her position. But I have known of her long before I left. She is a wonderful person, well liked by her constituents.
I wish I would have searched the KHOU site longer than I did. I used the first link that had a good video of the speech. There are at least 3 links at the TV sta site that had the video on it. This last one (below) is by the reporter who covered the speech. It explains more to what went on at the convention. Ms Jackson Lee has been Representative of Dist 18 for 17 years or more. In her speech she says she has been loyal to Clinton for more than a decade. I wish she had said exactly how long. I feel her loyalty belongs to her constituents.

As a person of integrity, Sheila Jackson Lee's loyalty is to her own principles. And that's what she says: "What would I be if I went back on my word to an individual that I've worked with for more than a decade and sat down talked to me about her vision for America,” said Jackson Lee. She's not doing this for Hillary Clinton, she's doing this because she's a person of good strong character. "What would I be ..." She recognizes that who we are is defined by the integrity of our choices, not by what we say we are.

As Martin Luther King Jr said, we ought to be judged by the content of our character, not the color of our skin. But Obama supporters are judging by the color of the candidate's skin, not the content of their character or the body of their work.

This is something Obama supporters do not get. Principles. Integrity. Honorable behavior versus vague words that make one likable.

This is not the way to a unified nation of diverse people, it's the way to separatist division. There's a reason Obama spent 20 years returning to Wright's sermons and called him Mentor. He was learning. Obama's found a way to wrap it all in a more likable package but it's the same old message. And that separatist message of Us versus Them is what motivated all that booing against Sheila Jackson Lee - this is not new in the annals of human history.

I also still feel that Obama has nothing to do with the actions of his supporters. It was constituents speaking to their Representative.

It was constituents speaking to their Representative AS INSPIRED BY BARACK OBAMA. It's interesting that on one hand Obama supporters say he's inspiring change but when that change happens they don't want the responsibility of it pinned on Obama.

The truth of who we are and what we inspire in others is in the actual behavior and choices that are made, not in what we SAY we are and SAY we inspire.

Have a look-see at this new link. It may stop all this debate of the situation. At least I hope so.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/politics/stories/khou080329_tj_jacksonlee.11d275a3.html

I've seen it before.

Obama is bringing about very bad things -- within the Democratic Party. Trying to imagine the destruction he'll inspire once he and his followers branch out beyond those who were once part of the same family ... well, again, I encourage everyone to read a little history because exactly this kind of movement has come along before. And it is not good for anybody.

 

[White Eagle]

Well I've tried. Nick you have no intention to realize what you are saying. I see division in your words that I don't see elsewhere. Obama had nothing to do with the response Jackson Lee got. Period. That is all I have to say on the subject.

 

[Lostlover]

It's actually quite funny. She jumped on the Hillary bandwagon when it was assumed she'd be the party nominee.

This is her eating her words and being stupid enough to pick sides so early in the race. It's the same thing with Philadelphia's mayor picking Hillary at the beginning (and also being snubbed by Obama).

And finally, I don't necessarily agree with booing Jackson but this is a democracy. That kinda thing is allowed in one.

 

[NickCole]

Well I've tried. Nick you have no intention to realize what you are saying. I see division in your words that I don't see elsewhere. Obama had nothing to do with the response Jackson Lee got. Period. That is all I have to say on the subject.

Obama supporters major claim is that he inspires change.

You say he didn't inspire the response Sheila Jackson Lee got.

So okay, what change has Obama inspired?

 

[NickCole]

I wouldn't feel too sorry for Miss Lee. She once asked NASA to position the Mars Pathfinder to take a picture of the flag Neil Armstrong left. This woman shouldn't be in office.

Even though I agree it's a silly request, that's a ridiculous reason to assert she shouldn't be in office. I mean, considering the endless list of silly things our Representatives ask for.

But anyway, I don't feel sorry for her. She's a woman of integrity and principle; I don't feel sorry for people who stand tall and resist bullying. I admire them.

 

[NickCole]

It's actually quite funny. She jumped on the Hillary bandwagon when it was assumed she'd be the party nominee.

This is her eating her words and being stupid enough to pick sides so early in the race. It's the same thing with Philadelphia's mayor picking Hillary at the beginning (and also being snubbed by Obama).

She could switch, just as Christine "Roz" Samuels did and Sarah Swisher and Rep. John Lewis. Obama's camp has been strong arming superdelegates to switch from their early endorsement of Hillary to Obama for a while now, and some have done it.

Sheila Jackson Lee, along with some others, have refused. She wasn't booed because she endorsed Hillary early on, she was booed because she's not switching.

And finally, I don't necessarily agree with booing Jackson but this is a democracy. That kinda thing is allowed in one.

Nobody said it's not allowed.

The point is this kind of bullying is what Obama inspires when someone of Sheila Jackson Lee's stature refuses to be intimidated into betraying her own principles.