Obama's Winning Because He's Not White!

[iman]

So silly.

The Iranian Guard IS a terrorist organization that has killed many Americans. Obama, in a remarkable display of political cowardice, which should, in itself, disqualify him from being Commander in Chief, failed to even vote.

Clinton was fully briefed on the NIE by aides like most Senators.

What is wrong with the Patriot Act?

Obama supports giving Drivers Licenses to illegals, Clinton was supporting her Governors policy.

Obama got money from Norman Hsu also.

This all petty stuff. Mrs Clinton has not had the luxury of voting "Present" when tough issues come up.

 

[MystikWizard]

So silly.

The Iranian Guard IS a terrorist organization that has killed many Americans. Obama, in a remarkable display of political cowardice, which should, in itself, disqualify him from being Commander in Chief, failed to even vote.

Clinton was fully briefed on the NIE by aides like most Senators.

What is wrong with the Patriot Act?

Obama supports giving Drivers Licenses to illegals, Clinton was supporting her Governors policy.

Obama got money from Norman Hsu also.

This all petty stuff. Mrs Clinton has not had the luxury of voting "Present" when tough issues come up.

The Iranian Guard is only a problem because of current US Foreign Policy. Americans, nor Iranians would be killed if we weren't into Empire/Nation-building. And it is the Policy that needs to be changed. You failing to acknowledge this, tells me that you support the current Foreign Policy.

Regarding Obama and his support of the Driver's License to Illegals ... I can't say that I agree with him on this one ... but when did he try to double speak and deny this? Hillary was a Yes, I'm for it. Then, no I'm against it ... (after being called out on the Double Speak). Point goes to Obama for not changing his stance, because of Media Pressure.

And with that being said, I need to run.

 

[lancelva]

Voting to label the Iranian Guard a terrorist Group.

If that was such an important vote, why did Obama duck it?

Obama (D-IL), Not Voting

How about not even bothering to read the NIE before casting that vote on Iraq? Great leadership qualities.

She was thoroughly briefed on the NIE--which offers two sides of the argument over whether Iraq did possess WMD. She believed that the best way to determine whether or not Iraq did indeed possess WMD was to send in the inspectors using coercive diplomacy.

But again, giving an anti-war speech at an anti-war rally is not exhibting "great leadership qualities." Neither is removing the speech from your web site after the war becomes unpopular or saying that you are unsure how you would have voted on the war. And if Obama was such a great leader against the war in Iraq and Senator Clinton was not, why are their voting records on Iraq almost exactly the same? If you want to keep bringing up this issue, these are facts that you cannot ignore.

How about voting for the Patriot Act?

It's also interesting that you bring up this issue, because it serves as yet another example of Obama's action different from his talk:

When he was running for the U.S. Senate in 2003, Obama filled out a questionnaire for the Illinois chapter of the National Organization for Women in which he stated his opposition to the president's Patriot Act. "Yes, I would vote to repeal the U.S. Patriot Act," he wrote. "I would consider replacing that shoddy and dangerous law with a new, carefully crafted proposal that addressed in a much more limited fashion the legitimate needs of law enforcement in combating terrorism." In a speech to the American Library Association, he called for the Senate to rewrite the law to keep "Big Brother" from "peering over our shoulder." Yet when the Patriot Act came up for renewal in 2005, Obama compromised and voted alongside 88 other senators to reauthorize the law, even though the new version had only "modest" changes. "The compromise is far from perfect," he said. But it was good enough.

How about not being willing to release her records as First Lady, but arguing for more transparency?

Her records as First Lady are under the purview of the National Archives and Records Administration and are governed by statute. Legally, these records must be sealed for a certain period of time deemed necessary for the NARA to organize and collect the documents for archiving purposes. And the fact that some documents have been withheld longer than planned is not the fault of the President or Senator:

The library released 2,830 pages of documents this week on pardons President Bill Clinton considered for Rich and others during his last months in office. But the library withheld another 1,114 pages that archivists said would disclose confidential discussion of advice the former president received from advisers or would violate someone's personal privacy.

The library's delays in releasing documents have prompted criticism of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband, the former president.

Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for the National Archives, which runs the library, said Friday that the federal agency may have misinterpreted Clinton's instructions in a 2002 letter to the Archives on his presidential records when deciding what pardon documents to release.

"We had been interpreting the easing letter president Clinton wrote in a particular way and were interpreting it very conservatively," Cooper said. "We then discovered in the course of conversations with (Clinton adviser Bruce Lindsey) that the president's desire was to interpret the easing letter less conservatively and more openly. ... It is for that reason there was more material withheld in this pardon material than we would have if we had been reviewing this stuff later."

Cooper said archivists don't have any immediate plans to revisit the pardon records to determine whether additional papers should be made public because doing so would delay the release of other records. The library is expected to release 10,000 pages of Hillary Clinton's schedules as first lady later this month.

"We're serving several masters at the same time. If we do that and look at all of the materials we've released so far, we're not going to get anything new out," Cooper said. "What that means is Mrs. Clinton's schedules would not be out on time and whatever is next in the queue would not be attended to."

Now, if you want to talk about transparency...we are still waiting on Obama to disclose details about his relationship with Tony Rezko. And at the same time he's demanding Senator Clinton to release records of her years as First Lady, he refused to release his State Senate records:

JOHNSTON, IA -- Obama said that he didn't know where his papers from his eight years in the Illinois State House were at a press conference in Johnston, Iowa, this morning after he taped an appearance on Iowa Press.

When asked about why he hadn't released his papers, Obama said that he had only one staff person assigned to him during his years in the senate and simply did not have the resources to keep archival records.

“I don’t have archivists in the state senate," he said. "I don’t have the Barack Obama state senate library available to me. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years."

Obama had been asked the question by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times, who pressed the senator on the question, saying that she wasn’t requesting specific papers. Instead, she just wanted to know where the papers were.

“You know I’m not certain, Lynn," Obama said. "I didn’t have the resources to ensure that all this sutff was archived in some way; it could have been thrown out. I haven’t been in the state senate now for some time. I’m not sure, Lynn. I don’t know."

And I figured I would throw this snippet from the same article in for good measure, especially in light of what we've seen of late:

He added he was still committed to running a campaign that attempted to rise above the back and forth of what he has deemed “textbook” politics from Washington. But the most notable exchange in the press conference came when Obama was about to walk off stage after taking just four questions. Sweet and David Wright from ABC News protested loudly that the Senator was not making himself more available to the media.

“If transparency is a big part of the campaign, why are the availabilities so few and far between and so short?” Wright asked Obama.

Obama ignored his question, but came back to both Sweet and Wright afterward, taking questions on his Illinois state senate records and why he didn’t take more opportunities to attack Clinton. Since Sept. 10, this was the second press conference the campaign has organized that was open to all press. Obama also took questions from New Hampshire reporters after he filed for the presidency there, a tradition organized by the New Hampshire Secretary of State’s office. He has also had two other media availabilities -- one in Iowa and one in South Carolina.

In a town hall in Dover, N.H., several weeks ago, Obama said he that he would hold regular press conferences and “not just call on my four favorite reporters."

How about being for supporting everyone's favorite Governor ... Elliot Spitzer's Plan to provide driver's licenses to illegal immigrants ... BEFORE she was AGAINST it?

She never stated specific support for or against the Governor's plan. Rather, she said that the Governor of New York and other states had to take some action because the federal government had failed to do so:

Well, what Governor Spitzer is trying to do is fill the vacuum left by the failure of this administration to bring about comprehensive immigration reform. We know in New York we have several million at any one time who are in New York illegally. They are undocumented workers. They are driving on our roads. The possibility of them having an accident that harms themselves or others is just a matter of the odds. It's probability.

So what Governor Spitzer is trying to do is to fill the vacuum. I believe we need to get back to comprehensive immigration reform because no state, no matter how well intentioned, can fill this gap. There needs to be federal action on immigration reform.

Obama attacked Senator Clinton for the answer when just two weeks later at the CNN debate, Obama said this about the same issue:

BLITZER: All right. I want to just press you on this point, because it's a logical follow-up, and then I want to go and ask everyone.

On the issue that apparently tripped up Senator Clinton earlier, the issue of driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, I take it, Senator Obama, you support giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

Is that right?

OBAMA: When I was a state senator in Illinois, I voted to require that illegal aliens get trained, get a license, get insurance to protect public safety. That was my intention.

(APPLAUSE)

And -- but I have to make sure that people understand. The problem we have here is not driver's licenses. Undocumented workers do not come here to drive.

(LAUGHTER)

They don't go -- they're not coming here to go to the In-N-Out Burger. That's not the reason they're here. They're here to work. And so instead of being distracting by what has now become a wedge issue, let's focus on actually solving the problem that this administration, the Bush administration, had done nothing about it.

BLITZER: Well, let's go through everybody because I want to be precise. I want to make sure the viewers and those of us who are here fully understand all of your positions on this barring -- avoiding, assuming -- there isn't going to be comprehensive immigration reform.

Do you support or oppose driver's licenses for illegal immigrants?

OBAMA: I am not proposing that that's what we do.

What I'm saying is that we can't...

(LAUGHTER)

No, no, no, no. Look, I have already said, I support the notion that we have to deal with public safety and that driver's licenses at the same level can make that happen.

But what I also know...

BLITZER: All right...

OBAMA: But what I also know, Wolf, is that if we keep on getting distracted by this problem, then we are not solving it.

How about taking known Felon for 10 years ... Norman Hsu's money without even bothering to investigate him, despite repeated warnings that he was a known Felon and was orchestrating a Ponzi Scheme?

As I've pointed out before, Hsu was also a "major fundraiser" for Obama:

Before becoming a major bundler for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, disgraced Democratic donor Norman Hsu helped host a 2005 California event for Barack Obama's political action committee and introduced the senator from Illinois to one of the biggest fundraisers for his presidential bid.

Federal Election Commission records show that Hsu gave $5,000 to Obama's Hopefund PAC in connection with the fundraiser and that people publicly identified with Hsu and his companies gave an additional $19,500 to the PAC in 2005 and 2006.

So what were you saying about the "poor judgment label" again? It is what it is. Why are you "turning your head" to this stuff and "pretending like it never happened"?

 

[NickCole]

You STILL grasping for straws, aren't ya? I just love listening to the delusional I really do, speak the more you say the more it SAYS about you. It is getting more pathetic by the day.

This isn't delusional.

This is what happens when Obama plays the race card:

In the Democratic race, Mississippi voters were strongly polarized by race, even more than in most other states that voted this year. Seven in 10 whites voted for Clinton, while 9 in 10 blacks voted for Obama. Clinton won among both white women, a group she normally carries, and white men, a key swing group in this campaign. Clinton's margin among whites is about even with her largest margin among the group to date, which was in neighboring Alabama. Obama's margin among blacks was his second best showing with the group, after his home state of Illinois. About half of the voters in the Democratic primary were black.

One in four whites said race was important to their votes, and nearly all of them voted for Clinton. Four in 10 blacks said race was important to their votes and nearly all of them voted for Obama.

Maybe you think this is good for America, that somehow dividing people will result in uniting them.

I disagree.

 

[pisces_ken02]

Well if he was white.. he would have won Texas and Ohio

Bitch needs to shut the hell up.

 

[noah617]

A racial divide in Mississippi? Say it aint so! Definately Obama's fault.

 

[NickCole]

A racial divide in Mississippi? Say it aint so! Definately Obama's fault.

Nobody said the racial divide is his fault.

Playing the race card doesn't create a racial divide, it exploits and worsens what already exists.

 

[noah617]

But the same thing happened in Alabama on Super Tuesday and the divide has been a lot less in intervening states.

So I think the severity of todays result is more related to the location than any stoking.

On your overall point I agree that stoking a racial divide is never a good thing but I don't think either side has clean hands on that one.

 

[Lostlover]

Whoever this after thought is needs to take her old decrepit ass and shove it.

Just look at the data about latinos and who they're voting for... now I'm starting to see why women barely got the right to vote with such dumb ass remarks by this prostitute and Hillary.

 

[Lostlover]

Is anyone denying that Obama's race is not a major part of his appeal or a major source of strength in the primaries?

What is hypocritical is the Obama campaign pretending that this is not true. If Obama was Fred Schwartz he would still be a community organizer in Chicago.




Aside from the fact that this has nothing to do with what Ferraro said, the fact is that Clinton was a distinguished attorney and if she had been a male, there is no telling how successful she might have been.

Is anyone surprised you were born in Hitler's decade with such racist comments like this?

People already didn't like Hillary and if they had an alternative they would choose it and they DID.

 

[noah617]

I thought this was interesting as I went through the CNN exit poll:

"Who is Honest and Trustworthy": Neither 14%

"Who Inspires You": Neither 11%

Not the kind of numbers you'd expect lol. Until you see that Republicans made up 13% of the vote. Of them the split was 77% to 23% Clinton.

That could tweek the racial divide numbers a little bit, but not so much that they're still not disturbing.

 

[iman]

Well if he was white.. he would have won Texas and Ohio
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I don't think so, he has no connection to Hispanics and does not connect with Democratic rank and file. The Democratic blue collar workers don't give a shit what color he is or how well spoken he is, they want someone that will help them with their problems.
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Lance- That was a great post. I'm sure the Obama supporters will be thanking you for contributing to their scant knowledge of their candidate. The more I look at the inconsistencies and blanks of Obama's record the more I realize that none of us know anything about this guy, none of us have the faintest idea of what he would do or how he would conduct the Presidency. I guess we are just supposed to HOPE!

 

[noah617]

Another interesting twist:

A Ferraro flashback

"If Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race," she said.

Really. The cite is an April 15, 1988 Washington Post story (byline: Howard Kurtz), available only on Nexis.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/A_Ferraro_flashback.html

 

[khushibagh]

I think it is really rich that Geraldine "Married to the Mob" Ferraro has the temerity to suggest that Obama is getting ahead because he's black. She was hands down the most unqualified person to be nominated for Vice President in recent decades (Dan Quayle included) and the way the feminist lobby browbeat Mondale into nominating a woman no matter how unqualified made the Democratic party a laughingstock. She was an embarrassment then and she's still an embarrassment.

 

[iman]

Is anyone surprised you were born in Hitler's decade with such racist comments like this?

You mean the decade of Churchill, Roosevelt and Ghandi? Maybe you should visit Auschwitz or one of the other Death Camps and you would not throw Hitler's name around so easily and maybe you should have lived through the Civil Rights era and you wouldn't throw the racist word around so glibly.

Sadly, you trivialize momentous events when you use them as epithets or use them to bolster your own self righteousness ---It's just what Falwell and Dobson do ---Aren't you proud?

 

[smelter]

I think it is really rich that Geraldine "Married to the Mob" Ferraro has the temerity to suggest that Obama is getting ahead because he's black. She was hands down the most unqualified person to be nominated for Vice President in recent decades (Dan Quayle included) and the way the feminist lobby browbeat Mondale into nominating a woman no matter how unqualified made the Democratic party a laughingstock. She was an embarrassment then and she's still an embarrassment.

I agree, rather than advance the woman's movement at the time, she actually set it back by giving credence to the false claim that women are not as smart as men.

 

[lancelva]

Congresswoman Ferraro's statements were not appropiate. Senator Clinton repudiated her remarks today and our campaign manager, Maggie Williams, reaffirmed that fact. Congresswoman Ferraro is not a paid adviser (unlike Samantha Power) so that's all the campaign can do. So we've said the comments were out of line and it should end at that. What else can we do? I mean, we are still waiting on Obama to disassociate himself from Donnie McClurkin.

It's worth noting, however, that Tim Russert confronted Obama on the issue of injecting race into the campaign and Obama said this during the January 15th MSNBC debate in Las Vegas:

Tim Russert: In terms of accountability, Senator Obama, Senator Clinton on Sunday told me that the Obama campaign had been pushing this storyline. And, true enough, your press secretary in South Carolina -- four pages of alleged comments made by the Clinton people about the issue of race.

In hindsight, do you regret pushing this story?

Sen. Obama: Well, not only in hindsight, but going forward. I think that, as Hillary said, our supporters, our staff get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say. And it is my responsibility to make sure that we're setting a clear tone in our campaign, and I take that responsibility very seriously, which is why I spoke yesterday and sent a message in case people were not clear that what we want to do is make sure that we focus on the issues.

So he admitted that supporters and even staff get "overzealous" and pledged that he would make issues the focus of this campaign.

But even after Senator Clinton repudiates the Congresswoman's comments, Obama is still trying to push this story, contrary to his pledge.

 

[noah617]

Why can't you just stop at saying what Ferraro said was wrong? Why does it always have to be: "but he did it too!"? I was right with you in that first paragraph until you got to that same talking point that I heard over and over tonight about McClurkin.

 

[smelter]

Your candidate should denounce AND reject her support, not just her remarks.

..... let me think, where have I heard that before .......

 

[snapcat]

How about not even bothering to read the NIE before casting that vote on Iraq? Great leadership qualities.

You mean the one entitled "Authorization to Use Force in Iraq?"