Occupy Wall Street

[BostonPirate]

It's more than "unfortunate" it's not acceptable. You lose the argument when you become violent. For the record, I'm glad to see that some of the protestors are repudiating the senseless violence. Destroying the property of others does nothing to bring yours back, does it?

it is not right. It is not moral. it is NOT legal.

But they have your attention now, don't they

these kids are playing the conservatives who are in bed with Wall street like a harp.

I wonder what King George thought when he read these words of Jefferson? indignation? disrespected?

Whose side do you think he would be on RIGHT NOW?

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

- Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson

 

[zoltanspawn]

It's more than "unfortunate" it's not acceptable. You lose the argument when you become violent. For the record, I'm glad to see that some of the protestors are repudiating the senseless violence. Destroying the property of others does nothing to bring yours back, does it?

The vast majority of us have demonstrated peacefully. There is only a small minority of vandals attached to OWS.

Did you also notice that OWS members in Oakland volunteered their time to scrub graffiti from the walls as a gesture of good citizenship?

 

[TX-Beau]

It's more than "unfortunate" it's not acceptable. You lose the argument when you become violent. For the record, I'm glad to see that some of the protestors are repudiating the senseless violence. Destroying the property of others does nothing to bring yours back, does it?

Suck. it. up. Life is life, this is not an argument. This is people fed up with people like you. Is that why you hate them so? WHY ARE THEY THERE!

You'll be really happy with clear streets when people aren't pissed on by people you defend.

Honestly, defending the status quo and trying to take the moral high ground.

Blind or greedy Jackaroe, which is it?

 

[TX-Beau]

The vast majority of us have demonstrated peacefully. There is only a small minority of vandals attached to OWS.

Did you also notice that OWS members in Oakland volunteered their time to scrub graffiti from the walls as a gesture of good citizenship?

All he's trying to do is to make us argue about some idiots while trying to plaster everyone as a rapist vandal (probably to justify his distaste for liberty) - so he doesn't have to talk about:

WHY PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS IN THE STREETS.

WHY?

 

[Jack Springer]

You find it necessary to demonize everyone you don't like. By calling her a bitch, I was unsuccessfully trying to mock you. Also, everyone you disagree with has no redeeming qualities. I imagine most posters here really can't take you very seriously. Insulting someone is not the same as a rebuttal.

I didn't call Angela Davis a bitch, I just agreed with you. You called her one or you were call me one -- which is it?

If you're calling me one -- I report you right now.

How many times have you and others called women c***s.

 

[Jack Springer]

You're in rare form -- two lies to open a post.



And this is false, too, just misrepresentation and slander via guilt by association. Two news stations here last night reported that some of the people inciting violence are the same anarchists who like to go from WTO meeting to G8 (or 9 or whatever they are now) destroying things -- they're not part of the movement, they're a disease infesting it.

Just admit that you really don't like people acting or choosing on their own; you want them to be the sheeple cowering before police power -- it would make the discussion more honest.

One poster here has repeatedly said it was not rape when a man was charged with raping a 14yo girl. He blamed the rape on the girl. Said it was all her responsibility. How is that a lie?

We live in a country of laws. Respect the laws, even though you may not agree with all of them.

If you associate yourself with a bank robbery by riding in the get-a-way car and don't report the crime or remove yourself from the scene - you are guilty of the the crime.

We have laws for a reason.

Kuli, it's extremely hard for me to believe that you believe in anarchy. I hope you are just playing the devil's advocate in this discussion.

 

[Jack Springer]

Sourpuss much?

Nope, I'm a pretty happy guy. I like people -- just not fond of those who want to harm others and destroy the USA.

 

[TX-Beau]

So you're a liberal then.

 

[TX-Beau]

We live in a country of laws. Respect the laws, even though you may not agree with all of them...

We live in a country with an ultimate law written by lawbreakers, who told us to watch the laws like a frikkin' hawk lest they be used to oppress us by people telling us to shut the fuck up and respect the law.


"...If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so..."
- Thomas Jefferson

 

[Jack Springer]

We live in a country with an ultimate law written by lawbreakers, who told us to watch the laws like a frikkin' hawk lest they be used to oppress us by people telling us to shut the fuck up and respect the law.


"...If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so..."
- Thomas Jefferson

You make no sense.

 

[TX-Beau]

right backatcha

 

[chrisrobin]

I didn't call Angela Davis a bitch, I just agreed with you. You called her one or you were call me one -- which is it?

If you're calling me one -- I report you right now.

How many times have you and others called women c***s.

Please re-read my post before you turn me in.

 

[jackoroe]

I didn't call Angela Davis a bitch, I just agreed with you. You called her one or you were call me one -- which is it?

If you're calling me one -- I report you right now.

How many times have you and others called women c***s.

Alright let's both of you please stop the purse fight.

 

[White Eagle]

Sourpuss much?

Thanks!!

 

[White Eagle]

Looks like you got your wish - anarchy in Oakland.

It's really hard to take a person like you very serious who believes that rape is OK. I'd suggest some counseling -- lots of it.


Occupy is following the pattern of 60's radicals -- protest, organize a "council" (since there is no organization without leaders), the leaders will be highly educated sons and daughters of wealthy people, move to violence (Oakland, rape, stealing, vandalism has already happened), attack a government institution (that's coming -- wonder what it will be and when), go underground.

However, there is one new ingredient to this mix -- a US President who believes in "the cause".

I'm not sure how it will turn out.

You're not too bright are you. I have never said rape was ok.
What is being reported now is a woman who is saying she got raped. Ok, lets see an arrest or a confirmation by the hospital that she got the rape kit at. Lets see the investigation, the charges, the conviction and the penality.
So far, there is only a woman saying she got raped. I say a possible plant.

 

[White Eagle]

Bullshit. The Tea Party left everyplace they went cleaner then when they found it. There were no riots, no need to tear gas them and they actually bothered to get permits to hold their gatherings.

Excuse me, I misunderstood. Were you there?

 

[White Eagle]

I have an issue with people setting things on fire, breaking windows and vandalizing property that isn't theirs. I have a problem with people denying others an opportunity to earn a living as was done last night in Oakland.

I have a problem with people raping and otherwise assaulting other people and stealing their possessions. And yes, I have problem with people behaving like monkeys in a zoo crapping and pissing all over an otherwise very nice area of NY and other places.

I have a problem in that people who are unfortunate enough to live in proximity to these assemblages of protestors/rioters aren't able to enjoy their rights to quiet enjoyment of their property. To not be harassed and otherwise verbally assaulted by these people.

You have a right to speak your mind. There is no right to engage in the violent activity these people have chosen. If you think America will support their violence, you are sadly mistaken.

As far as the unfortunate people, do they really live next to these protests?
I have a problem with that.
One question, have you ever been involved with a protest in the 60s? Probably not. It was one of the best things I've ever done. Some didn't do much, but others, right on!.

 

[chrisrobin]

Excuse me, I misunderstood. Were you there?

What? You've never heard of omnipresence? You develop it when you vote Republican.

 

[White Eagle]

Bullshit. The Tea Party left everyplace they went cleaner then when they found it. There were no riots, no need to tear gas them and they actually bothered to get permits to hold their gatherings.

Did they have tear gas back then? I doubt it. Pee and poo? probably all over the place. If not, please supply a cite.

 

[White Eagle]

The vast majority of us have demonstrated peacefully. There is only a small minority of vandals attached to OWS.

Did you also notice that OWS members in Oakland volunteered their time to scrub graffiti from the walls as a gesture of good citizenship?

Thank you for this input. In answer to your question? Probably not.
You're doing great!