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Occupy Wall Street

JayHawk said:
Right. But they are not arguing it from the standpoint of the earth's finite resources. They are arguing from the stance of 'i aint got none'. That is a far cry from the resources of this place are dwindling and we need to find ways to conserve as a human race before the curtain falls on ocean levels, on energy resources, and on food.
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There's little point in arguing any of that when the solutions, if any, will be controlled by the same 1% running the show. First you have to know off the uncrowned oligarchs.
 
Okay apparently nobody is following this anymore.... shrug.

i expected supporters to be happy over the ground stood and won in portland. They still occupy the park although they are a vestige of what was before.

Two key things I noted in this report from Time:

Outreach workers scoured the camp and helped a good portion of the occupy homeless to go find a temporary home elsewhere.

Police officer was wounded by a thrown projectile.

Now overall this is a resounding victory and the Police in Oakland can take a lesson in working with people to achieve similar goals. The mayor still intends to remove the remaining encampment. Yet the peoples voice was heard.

Occupy Portland Protesters Defy Eviction Order

It would appear that the Portland Police are smarter than both you or I Kuli. They are playing a patience game and letting the camp sort out for themselves who is not wanted.
 
Cops in riot gear are clearing the parks right now.

Still, a victory. :D
 
Yes it was a victory for Occupy in many ways IMHO.

None of us need a situation like Kent State to shake the country out of it's melancholy state of hopelessness.

We do need to massively change what is occurring in our country and with peaceful continuous pressure that change will occur.

Through the people. Now that is change you can believe in.
 
I mentioned this video on the hot topics thread, but in case anybody missed it there, it's worth watching:



At the end, protesters here last night peacefully countering a line of police in riot gear, and the police responding, peacefully.
 
My movement is currently in the process of transitioning to a democratic body of organized working groups of outreach and activism. This is what the Occupy Wall Street movement may need to transition to as it grows outside of the foundational notion of camping as a physical presence.
 
Just_Believe18 said:
My movement is currently in the process of transitioning to a democratic body of organized working groups of outreach and activism. This is what the Occupy Wall Street movement may need to transition to as it grows outside of the foundational notion of camping as a physical presence.
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This. The Occupy Cincinnati offered that potential and that is where it needs to go. Shape the system for what you want.
 
JayHawk said:
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This. The Occupy Cincinnati offered that potential and that is where it needs to go. Shape the system for what you want.
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And perhaps the idea may even take root.

It seems a bit silly to "occupy" if you are already an American citizen living in the country. You already occupy. How you occupy is really the meat of the matter...
 
The silly occupations offer visibility, and lots of it. Without them, I doubt there would be a movement that could undergo transition.

I'm a supporter of making the issues highly visible.
 
The GAs consensus process seems pretty inefficient, but I hope we're able to crank out a couple solid proposals. The problems at the encampments may have distracted from that process.

This is a juncture. It's like learning to walk without crutches. After only 39 days, it's a real hurdle.

The Occupation was a powerful symbol to sustain us, and now that it's gone it will take even more effort.

But I do think OWS should be flattered by the constant admonishments that it distill and evolve. It means people are paying attention and may even support parts of the movement.
 
A song written for Mr Obama's summit in Hawaii

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Why would a meeting of APEC be interested in our intra-national democratic process? Most of those countries simply jail or kill their protesters. The others are exact copies of our democracy.
 
zoltanspawn said:
The GAs consensus process seems pretty inefficient, but I hope we're able to crank out a couple solid proposals. The problems at the encampments may have distracted from that process.

This is a juncture. It's like learning to walk without crutches. After only 39 days, it's a real hurdle.

The Occupation was a powerful symbol to sustain us, and now that it's gone it will take even more effort.

But I do think OWS should be flattered by the constant admonishments that it distill and evolve. It means people are paying attention and may even support parts of the movement.
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And I agree. But why are the protestors using the methodology that's half a century old?

They need to switch their thinking up a bit. Right now they're sitting targets for ridicule and criticism. In this sound bite age, visibility is offered up to the people who control the media. What the majority of the world sees is seen through a filter of corporate owned media bias.

They've done some good things utilizing facebook to become organized. But they are missing opportunities to escalate the movement.
 
There's obviously a re-inventing the wheel criticism to be made about the consensus process, and I find it frustrating, too. But OWS is a grassroots, bottom up movement. It's just plain old going to take time and be somewhat irritating to form a more streamlined process...Were we more similar to a neo-conservative organization, leadership and followership wouldn't be nearly as difficult. :lol:

I have no interest in being part of an OWS that panders to the kind of visibility the corporate owned media provides. If they want to pay attention to OWS, nice. If they don't, then social media will just have to suffice.
 
zoltanspawn said:
There's obviously a re-inventing the wheel criticism to be made about the consensus process, and I find it frustrating, too. But OWS is a grassroots, bottom up movement. It's just plain old going to take time and be somewhat irritating to form a more streamlined process...Were we more similar to a neo-conservative organization, leadership and followership wouldn't be nearly as difficult. :lol:

I have no interest in being part of an OWS that panders to the kind of visibility the corporate owned media provides. If they want to pay attention to OWS, nice. If they don't, then social media will just have to suffice.
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Did someone suggest you should? BTW, the social media are corporate owned as well. Is it now a pick and choose type situation where this corp. is "good" and that corp. is "bad"?

As consumers we get to "vote" with our wallets, but anyway you slice that pie it's our money leaving our hands and resting in the vaults of the 1% If you pull away from the "bad" corp. and invest into the "good" corp., how long is it going to take before the greed sets in and the two become indistinguishable from one another? Would it be fair to say that OWS is about ending "mass consumption"? And is that something that is really wanted?
 
fetaby said:
Did someone suggest you should? BTW, the social media are corporate owned as well. Is it now a pick and choose type situation where this corp. is "good" and that corp. is "bad"?

As consumers we get to "vote" with our wallets, but anyway you slice that pie it's our money leaving our hands and resting in the vaults of the 1% If you pull away from the "bad" corp. and invest into the "good" corp., how long is it going to take before the greed sets in and the two become indistinguishable from one another? Would it be fair to say that OWS is about ending "mass consumption"? And is that something that is really wanted?
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Your post sounded very much like a suggestion to pander to the corporate media. If you can make your post clearer to me on that count I'll happily listen. What do you think are the missed opportunities?

Of course it's a pick and choose type situation where some corporations are good and some are bad. There are millions of corporations after all. As a very elementary example, I'm a shareholder in a small corporation. I happen to think it's a good one. Social media may be corporate owned, but it gives voice to thousands. It's better than a monolithic narrative. The kind of corporation I'm especially picking and choosing against is the kind that enjoys undue influence on the political sphere through monopolistic size, economic privelege and absurd protections of personal free speech.

Is OWS about ending mass consumption? I don't know. Put on a conehead and get to a GA and ask.
 
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