**Official Final Debate Thread**

[josher]

Obama also won the CBS snap poll.

The panels of Independants on CBS, CNN and Fox all had majorities for Obama.

All this just reported by MSNBC.

Edit: I have no idea where that banana came from. It was supposed to be an exclamation point.

 

[Lostlover]

I feel the EXACT same way about Obama. And his wife looks like the Grinch.

Funny, people think he nailed the AYERS/ACORN question, but he didn't exactly tell the whole truth, and also failed to answer why he was in Ayers' living room launching his campaign. He did nothing but his usual dodging and same rehearsed answers. He didn't clear a DAMN thing up.

On the flipside, I think it was a draw on who won. McCain had his ups, as well as Obama. I absolutely loved when McCain said "I Am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against him, you should've ran in 2004". Other than that, none of them really impressed me. I guess it'll come down to standing there with my ballot, and going over in my head which *I* think would be best fit. On one hand, I agree mostly with Obama's policies, however I really don't like him. He's a smug, ungrateful asshole. On the other hand, I agree with specific things McCain wants to fix/change, that Obama doesn't feel is an issue. But, he's old, feeble, and homophobic to an extent. Hmm...

What CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC say is facts! If they say Obama won, then DAMMIT, he won!! Duh!

What did you think about Hillary's outfit tonight?

 

[MystikWizard]

What did you think about Hillary's outfit tonight?

Ahhh, I thought it was very ... Autumnish.

What do you think, Lost?

 

[Lostlover]

Ahhh, I thought it was very ... Autumnish.

What do you think, Lost?

Umm, well the Turquoise reminds me of the Southwest so it reminded me of something close to home.

Her new hair style was dynamite. F-A-B-U-L-O-U-S.

 

[Kulindahr]

I couldn't catch the debate live -- anyone got a link to a recording?

 

[josher]

^^It will air on C-SPAN in 22 minutes (i.e., at Midnight.)

 

[Supernature]

Dear God...those extended close ups were not doing McCain any favors. It was excruciating watching him manically blink, fidget, grimace, wink, & smirk. Again, it was hard to follow what he was saying half the time. I think things go off the rails whenever he says "I know how to ....". It always seems to presage a flood of banal generalities.

A somewhat bland debate, but Obama won it, IMHO.

 

[Lostlover]

my favorite part was when McCain said, "No fine?!" he was so shocked lol. Priceless. I laughed for like five minutes.

My favorite part was when McCain called Obama "Senator Government" and when McCain rolled his eyes and huffed and puffed around the 53rd minute when Obama was talking.

 

[Kulindahr]

C-SPAN has it archived -- not very convenient screen size, but at least it's there.

Now I can catch up with y'all.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

I feel the EXACT same way about Obama. And his wife looks like the Grinch.

Funny, people think he nailed the AYERS/ACORN question, but he didn't exactly tell the whole truth, and also failed to answer why he was in Ayers' living room launching his campaign. He did nothing but his usual dodging and same rehearsed answers. He didn't clear a DAMN thing up.

On the flipside, I think it was a draw on who won. McCain had his ups, as well as Obama. I absolutely loved when McCain said "I Am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against him, you should've ran in 2004". Other than that, none of them really impressed me. I guess it'll come down to standing there with my ballot, and going over in my head which *I* think would be best fit. On one hand, I agree mostly with Obama's policies, however I really don't like him. He's a smug, ungrateful asshole. On the other hand, I agree with specific things McCain wants to fix/change, that Obama doesn't feel is an issue. But, he's old, feeble, and homophobic to an extent. Hmm...

What CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC say is facts! If they say Obama won, then DAMMIT, he won!! Duh!

What makes Obama an asshole and why don't u like him.. hes black?
and please tell me how he is ungrateful.

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

McCain won the debate. CNN Democratric contributers are even saying this.

Joe the plumber won it for McCain tonight.

I REALLY want this guy SMACKED.

I feel offended when you make up shit from your ass about the American Hero "Sarah Palin" You started a thread and said.. "While you all sit debating Sarah's LATEST Hair Style..."

It made me feel you were saying gays are stupid and all they do is sit and talk about beauty and divas and have no clue about national issues. Thats quite offensive. This is why you are a troll or a heterosexual religious person just barging in here and wanting to stir up a commotion!

 

[MystikWizard]

What makes Obama an asshole and why don't u like him.. hes black?

No, he was a former Hillary supporter. I think it's bitterness more than anything.

Fortunately, the bitterness seems to be winding down, as it is getting down to crunch time.

I REALLY want this guy SMACKED.

I feel offended when you make up shit from your ass about the American Hero "Sarah Palin" You started a thread and said.. "While you all sit debating Sarah's LATEST Hair Style..."

It made me feel you were saying gays are stupid and all they do is sit and talk about beauty and divas and have no clue about national issues. Thats quite offensive. This is why you are a troll or a heterosexual religious person just barging in here and wanting to stir up a commotion!

He's a troll. It's what he does for attention. Just put him on Ignore.

 

[MystikWizard]

Yea i caught the big eye roll heh He's a strange man. Very curious indeed. His temper is plain as day along with his impatience and obvious disagreement. Obama won hands down of course, but McCain did have his strong points in the first 20 minutes.

It seems to be the consensus that McCain did the best in the beginning and began to fizzle out as the debate went on.

Many people however do feel he won the debate tonight. But either way, it won't be a Game Changer.

Neocon Bill Kristol even said on Fox that "McCain has failed to convince the public that he is going to be different in any significant way then President Bush ... so why vote for him?"

 

[JOUPER]

My favorite part was when McCain called Obama "Senator Government" and when McCain rolled his eyes and huffed and puffed around the 53rd minute when Obama was talking.

"Senator Government" was your favorite part and your an Obama supporter?

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

"Senator Government" was your favorite part and your an Obama supporter?

I think he meant it was his favorite part in a humorous way. I also don't think he meant that literally. Its the same way when we say.. "Oh that's my song.." and then change 45's and go.. "Oh thats my song!" Know what I mean?

 

[JOUPER]

I think he meant it was his favorite part in a humorous way. I also don't think he meant that literally. Its the same way when we say.. "Oh that's my song.." and then change 45's and go.. "Oh thats my song!" Know what I mean?

Personally I feel "Senator Government",hit the nail on the head. I hope all you Obama supporters pay for your mistake of voting for this radical, it's just sad that the rest of us will have to pay the price. Sad,very sad

 

[smelter]

Maybe its just me but I have a hard time feeling sorry for a plumber who makes $250,000 a year. There is only one thing you need to know to be a plumber ..... water and shit flow downhill.

 

[Kulindahr]

OMG -- McCain claims he's repudiated out-of-bounds remarks by Republicans -- but he's the one making them!!!

 

[KrisHawkXXX]

Personally I feel "Senator Government",hit the nail on the head. I hope all you Obama supporters pay for your mistake of voting for this radical, it's just sad that the rest of us will have to pay the price. Sad,very sad

If anything hes a blessing to the nation. You are a victim of ignorant propaganda.

 

[MCsNo1Fn]

The Senator Government fuck up WAS hilarious. I laughed a good few minutes with that one. It just happened at the perfect moment in the debate, regardless of who's side you're on.

What did you think about Hillary's outfit tonight?

I didn't see Hillary.

What makes Obama an asshole and why don't u like him.. hes black?
and please tell me how he is ungrateful.

Why would that even be the FIRST choice of why I may not like a candidate? And yet you say this to someone else:

I REALLY want this guy SMACKED.

I feel offended when you make up shit from your ass

It is offensive to me that because I dislike someone, it of course has to do with race first and foremost. As if gays have the audacity to be racist. That's like Jews wanting to nuke Israel. So NO, it is NOT because he is black.

And I didn't mean ungrateful, I meant arrogant. That was a mistake in words on my behalf. I do not like him because he has a holier than thou attitude. I don't like how he dodges around everything having to do with his past and not being forthcoming about it. If you truly have nothing to hide, TELL US EVERYTHING. But instead, he circles the airport. I also think he is doing so much to get votes from all races, background, groups, etc, that he's becoming this "too good to be true" candidate. And that doesn't sit well with me because I do not believe he will follow through. He's doing whatever he can, saying whatever he can, to ensure your vote, and I don't think he's sincere. I don't think he will follow through. That's me being skeptical, but, I think as with any candidate, you should be. I also didn't appreciate the fact that he didn't even address any attacks made about McCain, but McCain was expected to apologize to Obama for any remarks his campaign and or rally members made. Obama completely skipped around the stepping stone and talked about something that didn't even have to do with the question. You can't whine about the opposite bringing up VALID background judgements and expect them to apologize or whatnot, and then not even address that your supporters and campaign are doing the SAME thing. 100% of McCain's ads are negative? So are yours, but you deny it. I've never seen a positive one from EITHER candidate that has aired here in FL.

The more I read into John McCain, the more I'm turned away from his ticket as well. Sarah Palin, while I love her personality and wit, seems to be more and more unqualified to me as even being a Vice President. It goes to show that the common man can be sucked into a persona, regardless of their stand on any one issue. Once I smacked myself back into reality, I started researching more about McCain and Obama's records and backgrounds. I like and dislike certain parts of each. The more my family, who are all registered Republicans, talk about McCain, the more it made me sway towards the ticket. At this point, they both have certain issues I agree and disagree with. The difficult part is, deciding which is more important to me, and to the country's interest. And at this point, it's still a toss for me.

No, he was a former Hillary supporter. I think it's bitterness more than anything.

As much as I have personally denied it, and as much as others who are voting for McCain because Obama is the candidate, I admit that was the major part of it, and any other Hillary-turned-McCain supporter who denies it, is in denial in fear the Obama Klan will come after them and pelt them with Sarah Palin Is A Cunt t-shirts.

Eventually, you have to remove yourself from all of the side-lining crap that fills campaign ads, news programs, and yes, even forum threads and REALLY look at the issues. I failed to do that extensively before I opened my mouth. I'm not saying I was uneducated on any of the issues and where the candidates stood, but instead, I cared more about defending the few McCain supporters being whipped by the overwhelming amount of Obama supporters, that I never dug deeper into who I was voting for, and why.

(end of rant. my bad)