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Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

Age and foreskin status ...

  • Under 30 and cut

    Votes: 24 16.9%

  • Under 30 and uncut

    Votes: 21 14.8%

  • 30-50 and cut

    Votes: 36 25.4%

  • 30-50 and uncut

    Votes: 16 11.3%

  • Over 50 and cut

    Votes: 31 21.8%

  • Over 50 and uncut

    Votes: 14 9.9%

  • I can't tell whether I'm cut or uncut

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    142
Re: About Circumcision...

I have been in both worlds. Having been uncut until in my 50's and then getting cut b/c of a very tight foreskin and that wasn't b/c I didn't do my share of jerking off.

Mine shrunk due to diabetis

as for the difference?? uncut was so, so nice.
Now that I am cut, jerking off is not enjoyable for me anymore.
 
Re: About Circumcision...

That's the thing--aside from scenarios in which circumcisions is a medical necessity, circumcisions isn't necessary. I don't think its a parent's choice to physically change something about their child that isn't medical and it's sad that hospitals automatically sign newborns up for the procedure without telling parents. Parents have to actually specify that they don't want their sons circumcised. Ridiculous.

Foreskin does not "just get int he way" and urinary tract infections are NOT significantly more common in men who have foreskins. Doctors who tell parents this are either lying to them or stupid. What IS significant is that at least .2% of all circumcisions result in penile disfigurement. .2 doesn't seem like a lot, but that's 2 in every 1000 boys born.
 
Re: About Circumcision...

I agree with this. My body belongs to me. No one had the right to cut off part of my body without my knowledge and consent and for no good reason.

I met someone once who had no belly button. The reason was they did such a hack job mutilating his penis as a baby that it caused such intense pain that he actually caused a serious hernia from the crying. The hernia repair surgery went far enough into the body wall that the navel had to be removed and the skin sown over. If you'd seen his penis it was severely gouged and mutilated. Mutilated is the appropriate term in this case.

There are more complications and infections caused by circumcision than are prevented by circumcision. It is a barbarity.

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Re: About Circumcision...

^ I agree - circumcision is barbaric, especially to innocent babies. Why not cut of the clitoris of baby girls - that makes just as much sense and is practiced in countries as barbaric (or more so) than the US.
 
Re: About Circumcision...

^No, you have the concepts all mixed up.

Cutting off the clitoris (and in many cases, the outer labia also and stitching the whole lot shut. Often, apparently, the only way to reopen the thing for sexual purposes involves the wedding night and a sharp knife) is an entirely different situation to circumcising a boy. Those "circumcised" girls cannot enjoy sex at all.

Us cut boys actually enjoy it quite a lot, thanks.

The male equivalent of what happens to some girls would involve having your knob lopped off below the head - I'm sure you all realise that is some distance away from a traditional high 'n' tight.

I am not sad I was done as a newborn. However, I suspect I will let my son/s choose for themselves WITHOUT resorting to ridiculously subjective words like "mutilation" and "barbaric" to describe the procedure.

-d-
 
Re: About Circumcision...

Yep!
I'm still uncut. Love it that way.
Good for docking with incoming.
Hmmm. I just realized I never did
that on horseback.
Shep+
 
Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...al-circumcision/2007/08/12/1186857323447.html

From next month, Victoria will be the fourth Australian state to no longer provide circumcisions at public hospitals for non-medical reasons.
From September, circumcisions will be performed in Victoria only where doctors determine there is a need because of concerns over infections or disease.
NSW, Western Australia and Tasmania have already implemented the change.
Victorian Health Minister Daniel Andrews today said there was no medical evidence to support routine circumcision of newborn males.
"In Australia and New Zealand, the circumcision rate has fallen considerably in recent years, and it is estimated that only 10 to 20 per cent of male infants are routinely circumcised," Mr Andrews said.
"Both nationally and overseas, doctors agree there is no medical benefit to routine circumcision, and studies show the complication rate is around five per cent."
Mr Andrews said parents who wish to have their son circumcised for religious reasons could have the procedure done in private hospitals.
About 2,200 circumcisions were carried out in Victorian public hospitals in 2005-6, costing about $2 million.
Mr Andrews said that money could be used to fund more urgent elective surgery procedures.
"It is important to ensure hospital services are prioritised towards treating patients who have a clinical need for surgery to improve their health," he said.
While recent studies of African countries suggested circumcision can reduce the rates of HIV, a report by the World Health Organisation concluded that in countries such as Australia, where HIV rates are low in the general population, limited benefit would result from routine circumcision, according to the Victorian government.
AAP
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Wow. A hospital makes a medical decision based on medicine instead of profit. You can tell they're not in the U.S.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Excellent, genital mutilation performed with no medical reason and without the consent of the patient is nothing more than child abuse.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

How refreshing to hear that. No more publicly funded ritual mutilation. Personally I think it should be left to the adult male to decide if he wants to be circumcised and if so it should be paid for privately. If there is a genuine medical reason for it then all well and good it should be funded by the state in those enlightened countries with a national health service.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Yet another reason to move to Australia.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

trawler69 said:
How refreshing to hear that. No more publicly funded ritual mutilation. Personally I think it should be left to the adult male to decide if he wants to be circumcised and if so it should be paid for privately. If there is a genuine medical reason for it then all well and good it should be funded by the state in those enlightened countries with a national health service.
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if it is done for religious reasons should it also be publically funded? theoretically if a government - such as the U.S. has a Constitution that declares Separation of Church and State - that would be in violation of such laws that existed.​

eM.:(​
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Soilwork said:
Yet another reason to move to Australia.
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Should we begin taking up a collection for the cause?

and oddity i noticed - and correct me if i am in error, which i often am, being a local village idiot - but i notice that most of the c*********ks in your signature appear to be circumcised.

inquiring minds just like to know?

POINT OF ORDER - A QUESTION MAYBE SOMEONE CAN ENLIGHTEN US WITH A REASONABLE RESPONSE -

do you think the issue of circumcision is more of an issue for homosexual males then it is for heterosexual males - and if so why?

eM.:(​
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

/\ No. It is an issue here because we're mostly gay men. I am on a foreskin restoration email list where the majority of the participants are straight and the sentiments are virtually identical.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

cityboy-stl said:
/\ No. It is an issue here because we're mostly gay men. I am on a foreskin restoration email list where the majority of the participants are straight and the sentiments are virtually identical.
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^^behold, it looks like we have a reasonable response here.

small question though, can you give some idea of how large the majority is of those males who are heterosexual? just for clarification purposes. like have they published any numbers to back that position? - pardon the poor pun.

thank you for your comments.​

eM.:(​
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Croynan said:
if it is done for religious reasons should it also be publically funded? theoretically if a government - such as the U.S. has a Constitution that declares Separation of Church and State - that would be in violation of such laws that existed.​

eM.:(​
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If it is done for religious reasons then it should not be funded by the state. The State may declare freedom of religion but that doesn't mean they should have to pay for mutilations that any religion allows. I actually feel that circumcision with no medical reason, of a minor, IE below what ever age of consent the state in the, so called, United States, has seen fit to impose, should be illegal.
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Go, Australia!

Like the guys there weren't hot enough already... ..|
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

Croynan said:
^^behold, it looks like we have a reasonable response here.

small question though, can you give some idea of how large the majority is of those males who are heterosexual? just for clarification purposes. like have they published any numbers to back that position? - pardon the poor pun.

thank you for your comments.​

eM.:(​
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I do not think they have collected those demographics, it is a "mostly" unmoderated email list. I've been receiving the email list for many years and I'm going on the general impression I get from scanning the messages. Many messages refer to "my wife/girlfriend", they talk about sexual difficulties and improvements in a hetero context, there are some women talking about their husbands/boyfriends and the restoring process, some medical people, nurses etc., people talk about psychological issues they experienced, the mechanics of restoring, and of course there's a gay representation as well. There's an age range from teens to 70's. Click here for the signup page but if you sign up be aware there are a lot of emails.

http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/restore/rest.html
 
Re: Circumcision ceases in Public Hospitals in Victoria

cityboy-stl said:
I do not think they have collected those demographics, it is a "mostly" unmoderated email list. I've been receiving the email list for many years and I'm going on the general impression I get from scanning the messages. Many messages refer to "my wife/girlfriend", they talk about sexual difficulties and improvements in a hetero context, there are some women talking about their husbands/boyfriends and the restoring process, some medical people, nurses etc., people talk about psychological issues they experienced, the mechanics of restoring, and of course there's a gay representation as well. There's an age range from teens to 70's. Click here for the signup page but if you sign up be aware there are a lot of emails.

http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/restore/rest.html
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So how do you restore?
do you wait for an uncut dude to join the list and then bid on his 4skin?(!)
 
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