Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

[mikey3000]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

And to take it a step furthef, any guy who is hating on his parents for circumcising him probably has many deeper parental issues than just circumcision.

 

[nycguydowntown]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Personally, I like being circumcised---but I am attracted to both if I am attracted to the person---so I don't REALLY give a shit---but I have had uncut friends--- several actually-- who's foreskin was so tight --sex was painful---be they str or gay--don't know if god planned for sex to be painful for these dudes or not.

 

[bort138]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Circumcised or not, almost all men are happy with their penises because that is the way it has always been and has a huge influence on the way they view what a penis is. Being happy with the choice your parents made either way isn't the point here so people can stop saying that. The issue regarding circumcision is whether parents should be the ones deciding and not the individual who the penis belongs to.

 

[nycguydowntown]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

well if that is the issue then parents should decide---that's what parents do with a baby--make decisions---depending on what they believe is good for their baby and traditions, whether the dad is or not--so I'm fine with that--it's not an earth shattering decision as it's all very subjective---but anyway congrats on your home team and an exciting football game Oh and that quarterback Russell Wilson is freaking adorable wow!

 

[xboxfan34]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Yeah, but how many guys did he nail? Because, really, it's only an issue in the gay community. You don't see any straight men screaming that they're maimed, do you?

Well sexual intercourse is the same. Straight people have anal too.

I'm just saying that someone who would be described as "maimed" and "not a true man" because he's cut managed to nail 42,000 chicks without any problem.

 

[bort138]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Parents should be resposible for making medical choices but only if those choices are necessary to treat an existing problem or condition. Circumcision is an elective procedure with little if any health benefit and is primarily performed for religious, traditional or other reasons altogether. If a procedure is done for any reason other than to treat an immediate medical problem, it should require the consent of the individual or not be performed. Bodily integrity is a human right and needs to be respected.

I really don't see this as the major issue of our day but it seems very unusual how the majority of the world seems to be doing just fine with foreskin yet is very popular still in the US. I don't see the point in subjecting babies to this for such a small payoff.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Parents should be resposible for making medical choices but only if those choices are necessary to treat an existing problem or condition. Circumcision is an elective procedure with little if any health benefit and is primarily performed for religious, traditional or other reasons altogether.

Unfortunately part of the "muddiness" around why this procedure continues to be done somewhat routinely in the U.S. (most people have utterly no idea why it's done anymore, very few parents think about it or do any research about it prior to making a decision) is because most of the "standing" information about it (myths about important health benefits, risk of penile cancer, etc.) are for the most part 50 years out of date and doctors and hospital administrators do not particularly "push" any thought about the topic because it's a several hundred dollar procedure, covered by insurance, which can be done in about 3 minutes of work. It's money in the bank. That's more the reality of it today I think than because most people are doing it out of any firm or even particularly conscious "specific reason" anymore.

 

[xboxfan34]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Parents should be resposible for making medical choices but only if those choices are necessary to treat an existing problem or condition. Circumcision is an elective procedure with little if any health benefit and is primarily performed for religious, traditional or other reasons altogether. If a procedure is done for any reason other than to treat an immediate medical problem, it should require the consent of the individual or not be performed. Bodily integrity is a human right and needs to be respected.

I really don't see this as the major issue of our day but it seems very unusual how the majority of the world seems to be doing just fine with foreskin yet is very popular still in the US. I don't see the point in subjecting babies to this for such a small payoff.

I look at it like this. Ill never have to deal with dick cheese not will I ever have issues with foreskin tighteing making sex painful.

 

[nycguydowntown]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Actually in this country --most of the doctor's , urologists, and experts I've seen talk on the subject--or things I have read--say it's a good idea for medical reasons---for all the health reasons many have talked about on this forum---

 

[xbuzzerx]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Actually in this country

Am I speaking from Belgium or something?

 

[bort138]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

I look at it like this. Ill never have to deal with dick cheese not will I ever have issues with foreskin tighteing making sex painful.

It is true that you don't have to deal with thoses issues but is that enough of a reason to continue circumcision in infants? It's seems quite excessive to surgically remove foreskin to eliminate such minor problems. Adequate hygiene and stretching exercises can fix these problems if they even occur at all.

In medicine, the goal is usually to treat problems once they have been diagnosed with the least invasive option that is necessary and proportional to the severity of the problem and risks involved. Surgical excision as a preventitive measure to eliminate problems or diseases associated with being uncircumcised is inconsistent with how almost every other medical problem is treated. Why does this discrepancy exist?

 

[Jack Springer]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

I was only going for an audience of one.

If quackery doesn't describe your notion of pedophilia, no stupidity ever will.

Your inane pedo comments are so obvious that no one is actually debating you, as it it obvious that logic and obvious facts are pointless. Dragging Obamacare in as a red herring was just more proof that no one is listening to you any longer and that you have to inject your rants into unrelated threads in a desperate attempt to be heard. Sad.



That suggests you have very little education or vocabulary. Pedophilia isn't just some random word thrown out without meaning anytime there is any activity involving a minor and genitals. According to your inexactness, a parent treating diaper rash is a pedophile.

The surgical removal of the foreskin is in a public venue, with the parents looking on, and apparently enshrined in ritual. I have never heard of any pedophile who has worked in such a setting. There is no suggestion that these mohels ever are turned on by infant contact or that sexual arousal is in any way involved.

By your definition, every lifeguard anywhere is a pedophile because he is watching closely children running around in bathing suits with their nipples showing.

How lame. Is it intentional?

You still don't understand that sucking an infant boy's penis is extremely strange behavior. Your comparison illustrations are not equal to sucking an infant's penis.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

You still don't understand that sucking an infant boy's penis is extremely strange behavior. Your comparison illustrations are not equal to sucking an infant's penis.

Anyone still reading this thread, what you see above is what you're missing in CE&P.

 

[Kahaih]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

You still don't understand that sucking an infant boy's penis is extremely strange behavior. Your comparison illustrations are not equal to sucking an infant's penis.

Which is quite peculiar, really, when you look back at the first reply to this thread (post #2) where Dejavudoo, himself, was the first to want to compare the actions of the cocksucker mohel to the 'risky behaviors' of gay men.

from page one, post #2

As this IS a gay website, it would be interesting to know the comparative incidence of these avoidable cases compared to the avoidable cases of hepatitis, gonorrhea, and HIV that result from high risk behaviors.

It would be a valid comparison to see which population suffered more deaths and disabilities per 100,000.

 

[Jack Springer]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Anyone still reading this thread, what you see above is what you're missing in CE&P.

Common sense and morals.

 

[eastofeden]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Common sense and morals.

ROTFLMAO ...I must have missed the comedian in you Jack but that does support my theory that you are a Liberal tying to make conservative Christians look even worse than they already do.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Rabbi Schmuel Kamenetsky says it's permissible to do the sucking with a tube rather than the mouth


http://finkorswim.com/2012/04/03/metzitza-bpeh-version-∞-a-house-divided/

 

[pat grimshaw]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite



This guy has 50 grandchildren but doesn't want to talk.

 

[Alnitak]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

I think this thread has run its course. A discussion of underage penises was a questionable topic for debate on a gay porn forum to begin with, however non-sexual the issue is.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Re: New York Baby Infected With Herpes After Metzitza B'peh Circumcision Rite

Who is supposed to take responsibility for spreading disease?

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/living/immun-clinics.shtml

http://www.cdc.gov


Wiki says the USA has no Chief Rabbi to give guidance to his people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbi#United_States