Oregon Shooting - Not again!

[R.B.S.]

Anyway there should be more control. And some people seems crazy to me, when they have lots of guns, etc., I dunno... Still, it's up to you.

Sure, I understand that if you are living in a cottage, not in an apartment and on a high floor, the bulglar can just break the window.

But those Russians who live in a cottages constantly, usually have very thick birch fence or dogs.

In Russia burglars very often rob summer-cottages, which some people have (I don't)/ Summer-cottages are not so heavy. But usually burglars rob them not in summer, but in autumnt, then the inhibitants are outside.

 

[R.B.S.]

Oh, it's brick, not birch.

 

[Kulindahr]

Anyway there should be more control. And some people seems crazy to me, when they have lots of guns, etc., I dunno... Still, it's up to you.

Sure, I understand that if you are living in a cottage, not in an apartment and on a high floor, the bulglar can just break the window.

But those Russians who live in a cottages constantly, usually have very thick birch fence or dogs.

In Russia burglars very often rob summer-cottages, which some people have (I don't)/ Summer-cottages are not so heavy. But usually burglars rob them not in summer, but in autumnt, then the inhibitants are outside.

This is why the incidence of crimes against property when no people are present rises when "shall issue" concealed carry laws are passed -- criminals suddenly realize they're safer if there aren't any people around to fight back.

 

[R.B.S.]

Well, again, my point is that burglars usually rob you when you are NOT AT HOME.

So, the gun won't help you. It's better to make better fence and use more corpulent doors, not to use doors with glass or plastic elements.

We have criminal news on TV everyday and the majority of such crimes happen when people are at work or on summer vacation. If you are in the flat the burglars won't rob it. If you ain't there, a gun won't help you.

And a reasonable person should be at home after midnight. Those nightclubs are for the people who want to get drunk and to fight.

So, I don't get this "if you are alone on the street during the night and there are no cops" thing... Just stay at home after midnight and you will be ok.

A peaceful person wants peace. If some persons want to have troubles, it's up to them, but I still believe that guns should be restricted. Definately in MY counrty. It's up to American people themselves, how they solve this problem. I just hope that the voices of those people, who are against guns will be stronger, but certainly it's your choice.

 

[Kulindahr]

And a reasonable person should be at home after midnight. Those nightclubs are for the people who want to get drunk and to fight.

So, I don't get this "if you are alone on the street during the night and there are no cops" thing... Just stay at home after midnight and you will be ok.

You must have real shit night clubs where you are. We have lots that are for dancing and relaxing till the wee hours.

Your ending line basically says to live in fear and hide....

 

[R.B.S.]

Nope. I just don't like nightclubs. Not all of them are so bad. But I think it's more healthy to sleep during the night.

I don't live in fear. I just don't want to mess around with idiots on drugs (marijuana and ecstasy) and alcochol, that are usually visit nightclubs. It's unhealthy.

I can go to the theater instead of that. I suppose, there are a lot of pleasures in this life besides nightclubs.

And anyway, if that Oregon shooter had psycho problems, why his mother was allowed to have such amount of guns? It's idiotical.

 

[Kulindahr]

And anyway, if that Oregon shooter had psycho problems, why his mother was allowed to have such amount of guns? It's idiotical.

Because we don't penalize the innocent because of the actions of others?

 

[R.B.S.]

If a person has psycho problems he or she should not be allowed to:
1) drive a car (a driver should do it or a relative of this person, or a person must use public transport intead).
2) have a gun

in the 2nd case (but certainly not in the first) not only the person ITSELF, but the persons who live in the SAME house or apartment. If police knew that her relatives had psycho problems, why she had an opportunity to buy a gun? I don't understand.

 

[Kulindahr]

Because we don't penalize the innocent because of the actions of others.