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[cityboy-stl]

 

[NotHardUp1]

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No, that leaves the illegal refusal of Mitch McConnell to bring a valid nominee before the Senate for a confirmation, and the then administration's failure to create a Constitutional crisis as should have been taken to the then SCOTUS to stop from hijacking the court process.

It was illegal, and the Democrats didn't have the stomach to force it.

The either-or ultimatum got us here. The Democratic Party failed so badly, people chose a felon over it. That's on the Democrats. When they had a majority, they couldn't even pass a health care act that working class Americans could afford -- it was all smoke and mirrors. It's a bit of a sad day when claiming health care was somehow improved when the deductibles ensure no one gets enough help.

The two parties rig the system to choke out any real reform. If the suggestion is that the Democrats will be eaten from within as the GOP has been by MAGA, then no thank you. We don't need extremists in charge in either direction.

 

[NotHardUp1]

A wonderful Easter Heg from the Salt Lake Tribune:

 

[rareboy]

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I think they saw it for what it was. An irreligious taunt. An insult to Islam.

I don't know if there was a time in my memory, where, if the warlords in the US were fighting the same war that the GOP would have been horrified...unless it was a Democrat who wrote the words.

 

[KaraBulut]

...I don't know if there was a time in my memory, where, if the warlords in the US were fighting the same war that the GOP would have been horrified...unless it was a Democrat who wrote the words.

This 2022 Ramirez cartoon can be recycled repeatedly; all one has to do is change the caption to whatever stupid, reckless, ill-informed, self-destructive thing he has done today.

 

[cityboy-stl]

No, that leaves the illegal refusal of Mitch McConnell to bring a valid nominee before the Senate for a confirmation, and the then administration's failure to create a Constitutional crisis as should have been taken to the then SCOTUS to stop from hijacking the court process.

It was illegal, and the Democrats didn't have the stomach to force it.

The either-or ultimatum got us here. The Democratic Party failed so badly, people chose a felon over it. That's on the Democrats. When they had a majority, they couldn't even pass a health care act that working class Americans could afford -- it was all smoke and mirrors. It's a bit of a sad day when claiming health care was somehow improved when the deductibles ensure no one gets enough help.

The two parties rig the system to choke out any real reform. If the suggestion is that the Democrats will be eaten from within as the GOP has been by MAGA, then no thank you. We don't need extremists in charge in either direction.

People apparently do not understand when you vote in the general election for President, you are voting for who gets all of your states electoral college votes. That will not be a third party. Like it or not, it's a binary choice. Only one of two people are going win. Even if neither are your favorite, vote for the one with the potential to do the best job, or cause the least damage, over the next four years. Your favorite is not going to win! That's just how it is. Voting for a third party helps no one win your states electoral college votes and is just a vanity vote. Until there are structural changes in the way elections are run in this country, that's just how it is. So make your vote count in your state's electoral tally. Don't throw it away on a nobody who cannot win and thereby help another fascist monster become President.

Bush won the presidency by 537 votes. 97,488 cast a vote for Ralph Nader that counted for nothing, but effectively, handed us eight years of GW Bush.

 

[fallsguy]

 

[Araucaria]

People apparently do not understand when you vote in the general election for President, you are voting for who gets all of your states electoral college votes. That will not be a third party. Like it or not, it's a binary choice. Only one of two people are going win. Even if neither are your favorite, vote for the one with the potential to do the best job, or cause the least damage, over the next four years. Your favorite is not going to win! That's just how it is. Voting for a third party helps no one win your states electoral college votes and is just a vanity vote. Until there are structural changes in the way elections are run in this country, that's just how it is. So make your vote count in your state's electoral tally. Don't throw it away on a nobody who cannot win and thereby help another fascist monster become President.

Bush won the presidency by 537 votes. 97,488 cast a vote for Ralph Nader that counted for nothing, but effectively, handed us eight years of GW Bush.

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One quote I heard went something like this: Vote with your heart in the primaries, but in the general election vote with your head.

 

[Lecygni274]

 

[rareboy]

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[NotHardUp1]

People apparently do not understand when you vote in the general election for President, you are voting for who gets all of your states electoral college votes. That will not be a third party. Like it or not, it's a binary choice. Only one of two people are going win. Even if neither are your favorite, vote for the one with the potential to do the best job, or cause the least damage, over the next four years. Your favorite is not going to win! That's just how it is. Voting for a third party helps no one win your states electoral college votes and is just a vanity vote. Until there are structural changes in the way elections are run in this country, that's just how it is. So make your vote count in your state's electoral tally. Don't throw it away on a nobody who cannot win and thereby help another fascist monster become President.

Bush won the presidency by 537 votes. 97,488 cast a vote for Ralph Nader that counted for nothing, but effectively, handed us eight years of GW Bush.

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Perfectly understood.

Let me try again.

The DEMOCRATIC PARTY has presented such unpalatable candidates that their POTENTIAL BASE has defected repeatedly in recent presidential elections.

Foisting a dichotomy between bad and worse doesn't result in voters holding their noses and choosing bad over worse. They did that already, several times, with the result that the Congress continued to be ineffectual when either party controlled it.

After enough of these no-win elections, hard left voters either voted 3rd party when one was possible, or they abstained in the presidential ballot, and most likely, in the general election altogether unless a compelling reason on local or state races conjured them to vote.

The big exception is Obama's first election, as many Blacks voted who normally do not, but even that was less a draw going forward, and the same either sat it out or voted GOP in revolt to the lack of change after it was promised. Obama kept the black sites overseas operating. Obama renewed Homeland Security's spying on domestic citizens. Obama had no power in Congress where he had not built up clout as effective Democrat presidents had previoiusly weilded.

If voters do not want Hillary Clinton, whether in pique at her defending Bill, or against dynastic houses taking the Oval Office (Bushes), or felt she was guilty of collusio with big business to sell out workers, or they were angry that the DNC rigged the primaries for he, then they had good enough reason to reject her election. In true reckoning, they ARE saying they would rather the party fail than to keep proffering such damaged goods as the best choice.

The same held true when the DNC couldn't get its shit together to force out Biden early, before he insisted on running again, and then tried to shove Vice President Harris onto the throne when she had never even won primaries in her own right before becoming VP. Add to that her flip-flop on key issues she HAD campaigned on in the 2020 race, and you got a repeat.

I've been an independent since before 2016, so I have no dog in the fight for the Dems, but I've never voted GOP ever. I'm for more substantial change than the lies and half-measures both parties have been giving the working class. And I'd prefer total collapse over a return to mediocre nothingness with grandstanding to block the opposing party. Status quo of do-nothing isn't worthy of supporting. That is not support for GOP. It's anti-crap.

And humor or not, the meme is a false straw-man argument, as NO ONE who voted third party ever thought nothing bad could come of it. We thought principle was worth supporting over winning. And the values we voted for still are. They aren't being delivere by the GOP or the DNC.

 

[Alistair]

 

[cityboy-stl]

Perfectly understood.

Let me try again.

The DEMOCRATIC PARTY has presented such unpalatable candidates that their POTENTIAL BASE has defected repeatedly in recent presidential elections.

Foisting a dichotomy between bad and worse doesn't result in voters holding their noses and choosing bad over worse. They did that already, several times, with the result that the Congress continued to be ineffectual when either party controlled it.

After enough of these no-win elections, hard left voters either voted 3rd party when one was possible, or they abstained in the presidential ballot, and most likely, in the general election altogether unless a compelling reason on local or state races conjured them to vote.

The big exception is Obama's first election, as many Blacks voted who normally do not, but even that was less a draw going forward, and the same either sat it out or voted GOP in revolt to the lack of change after it was promised. Obama kept the black sites overseas operating. Obama renewed Homeland Security's spying on domestic citizens. Obama had no power in Congress where he had not built up clout as effective Democrat presidents had previoiusly weilded.

If voters do not want Hillary Clinton, whether in pique at her defending Bill, or against dynastic houses taking the Oval Office (Bushes), or felt she was guilty of collusio with big business to sell out workers, or they were angry that the DNC rigged the primaries for he, then they had good enough reason to reject her election. In true reckoning, they ARE saying they would rather the party fail than to keep proffering such damaged goods as the best choice.

The same held true when the DNC couldn't get its shit together to force out Biden early, before he insisted on running again, and then tried to shove Vice President Harris onto the throne when she had never even won primaries in her own right before becoming VP. Add to that her flip-flop on key issues she HAD campaigned on in the 2020 race, and you got a repeat.

I've been an independent since before 2016, so I have no dog in the fight for the Dems, but I've never voted GOP ever. I'm for more substantial change than the lies and half-measures both parties have been giving the working class. And I'd prefer total collapse over a return to mediocre nothingness with grandstanding to block the opposing party. Status quo of do-nothing isn't worthy of supporting. That is not support for GOP. It's anti-crap.

And humor or not, the meme is a false straw-man argument, as NO ONE who voted third party ever thought nothing bad could come of it. We thought principle was worth supporting over winning. And the values we voted for still are. They aren't being delivere by the GOP or the DNC.

And you have just validated every reason for why we have a fascist monster in office today. All you're doing is explain why these third party voters have their head up their ass. These third party voters vote out of vengeful spite, malice, and vanity and would rather see the country fail because they didn't get everything they want. We want everything all at once, or we waste our vote and turn country over to Nazis. Yeah, that'll show the DNC. We punished them real good didn't we. We're standing for our ideals! We'd rather see the country collapse than vote for a "Democrat" because they aren't our perfect candidate. Reality be damned. We have principles.

Where are these third parties today? I have not heard one freaking thing from Jill Stein about current events nor from any of these third parties. All they do is run for office in election years and complain about not winning and not getting what they want in between.

This addressed in the book about Lyndon Johnson, Master of the Senate by Robert Caro -

"Liberal politics was fine, but he [LBJ] was tired of all those 'bomb throwers,' those liberals who thought they were smarter and purer than everyone else. They were always yammering about this or that ideal, and meanwhile they never got anything done.

What mattered was getting things done. And getting things done meant understanding the real world and the forces that shaped it, meant understanding what was possible in the world as it existed — not the world of your dreams. He had no patience for those who were more concerned with standing on principle than with making progress. 'What the hell's the point of being pure if it means you never get anything done?' he would ask.

In his view, the true measure of a politician was the ability to achieve concrete results, to bend the world a little closer to one's vision without breaking it. To LBJ, politics was the art of the possible, not the ideal. He believed in incremental progress, in moving the needle forward, even if only slightly. Better to achieve a compromise that brought some change than to stand firm on principles and achieve nothing."

Stop being a bomb thrower and work to get something done and save the country from fascism.

 

[opinterph]

Voting for a third party helps no one win your states electoral college votes and is just a vanity vote.

If you are hoping to gain traction for a third party's influence in elections, it is important to qualify to have your candidate appear on the ballot. In some states, third party candidates must achieve a minimum number of votes in each election in order to qualify to have their candidate appear on the next ballot. Having a candidate on the ballot increases the legitimacy of the party and exposes the electorate to the party's message. Mainstream candidates sometimes moderate their positions if a third party candidate is presenting a message that is resonating with the voters. Voting for your preferred candidate may not win any electoral votes, but that doesn't render it futile.

How Candidates Get on the Presidential Ballot (State Court Report; August 2024)

Ralph Nader that counted for nothing, but effectively, handed us eight years of GW Bush.

With such a small margin of victory, it is easy to point to any number of factors - any one of which - could have changed the outcome. For example, the wrongful purging of minority voters from the rolls in Florida was more than enough to swing the election.

No one could ever determine precisely how many voters who were incorrectly labeled felons were turned away from the polls. But the US Civil Rights Commission launched a major investigation into the 2000 election fiasco, and its acting general counsel, Edward Hailes, did the math the best that he could. If 12,000 voters were wrongly purged from the rolls, and 44 percent of them were African-American, and 90 percent of African-Americans voted for Gore, that meant 4,752 black Gore voters — almost nine times Bush’s margin of victory — could have been prevented from voting. It’s not a stretch to conclude that the purge cost Gore the election.

How the 2000 Election in Florida Led to a New Wave of Voter Disenfranchisement (Moyers; December 2015)

 

[rareboy]

Probably a good basis above for a separate thread?

Meanwhile:

 

[Araucaria]

This morning I saw an old pickup with a bumper sticker that said “Don’t blame me, I voted for Trump.”

THAT aged well.

 

[rareboy]

Not surprised it was an old pickup truck.

Cletus likely won't ever be able to afford a new one...or even repairs on this one now.

 

[Kulindahr]

 

[Kulindahr]

 

[fallsguy]