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This is where we are now. People just randomly shooting at anyone they want to, because they have a gun and they can.

Accidentally knock on the wrong door? Get shot.
Accidentally turn into the wrong driveway? Get shot.
Accidentally try to open a car that looks just like yours? Get shot.
Your kid's basketball goes into a neighbor's backyard and they don't like it? Shoot the dad and the kid.
Think someone is shoplifting? Shoot them?

Every one of these examples have happened in just past 7 days. There are probably more.
And the random shootings will get worse.

It's death spiral. We need more guns to protect us from the guns. Everyone needs a gun because everyone has a gun.
Guns become the answer to everything. You don't like something or someone, shoot them. Soon you will be shot too.
You live by the gun, and you die by the gun.

If more guns made us safer, we'd be the safest nation in the world. But we aren't. More guns have made us just the opposite.
This is not what the Founders intended.

The only way to stop it, is to do something about the actual problem. Do something about all the fucking guns everywhere.
 
cityboy-stl said:
It's death spiral. We need more guns to protect us from the guns.
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Indeed. But what the 'gun pushers' haven't figured out yet is that all of those examples you mentioned - every single one of them - would still have been shot without any chance or possibility of protecting themselves with their own gun.

People, it seems, now have permission to commit cold-blooded murder.
 
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And again, this is where we are. When everyone has a gun, the answer to everything is the gun. It is a death spiral. If you want to call it mental illness, then it's gun psychosis. People are so obsessively fixated on their guns, they refuse to see the damage to themselves and to society their guns cause. They blame everything else but the actual problem. That's the gun psychosis, and unfortunately, a very large percentage of society is afflicted. You cannot solve the problem with more of the problem. It is the classic denial cycle that always escalates to jail, destruction, and death. The way to stop any cycle like this, is to make a conscious decision to put down the object/substance/activity that is fueling the cycle. This free-for-all, unregulated proliferation of guns, has to stop, and the guns put down, before anything changes.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid we are going to see many more incidents of tragic and escalating gun violence with far more death and devastation, before the denial breaks and society as a whole, legislators, and individuals finally accept the reality that the thing fueling all the gun violence, is guns!
 
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Again...just more performance theatre or throwing something at the wall to see if it sticks.

This will fail in court and eventually end up at the SC.

But the real value to the Florida legislature is that it is an immediately appealing act that will keep the right wingers coming to the polls.
 
rareboy said:
Again...just more performance theatre or throwing something at the wall to see if it sticks.

This will fail in court and eventually end up at the SC.

But the real value to the Florida legislature is that it is an immediately appealing act that will keep the right wingers coming to the polls.
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I know you don't believe it, but this not just performance theatre. Even if this specific bill isn't successful in becoming law, they have now successfully planted and cultivated in their supporters minds, the concept that it is acceptable and desirable to refuse medical service to people whom they reject and despise. None of these crap bills are simple one-off attempts just to see what sticks today. It's far deeper, more nefarious and dangerous, and much larger in scope. The bill won't stick on this wall, but the idea for it will stick in people's minds; and that's the point of it. They're laying the groundwork for future support and consent of these kinds of actions, as well as weakening resistance to them, in the time to come. Instill the idea in people's minds, wear down opposition, convince people little-by-little that all this shit is OK to do, and build support for it. It's not about implementing the action now, it's about putting the idea in their followers minds and convincing them to support and condone the action later, when they do have power to implement it.

It's the same as that analogy about putting a frog in cool water and turning up the heat. If you put the frog in hot water, they resist and jump out. If you put the frog in cool water and gradually turn up the heat, they don't notice and let it happen until they're boiled to death. This is what republicans are doing. Little by little, we let them get away with one more thing, until we're all in camps wondering what happened.

It is what the Nazis did. Propagandize hate and build public support for it to minimize opposition. Later, impose small restrictions that escalate little-by-little in intensity and severity. Justify the restrictions with lies, fear, hate, and power, so people don't fight back. When there is no opposition left, open the gas chambers and ovens.

Just because what republicans are doing does not look exactly like 1930s Germany on the exact same time scale, does not mean it is not the same fascist thing!
And republicans damn well know it.
 
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The horde didn't start believing they have a right to bigotry because some politicians told them so, that works the other way around. The horde has lost patience with politicians who know this is a losing strategy and wouldn't do that.

The hatred was always there.

This is nothing new in American politics. We've had a Nazi movement before. several times.

What has changed is that there was progress towards inclusion and tolerance and the horde is terrified of that.
 
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