Political correctness versus Mathematics; will liberals win?

[Mariatenebre]

Would Arabs be considered white? Isn't from that culture where mathematics developed?

Conservative activists tend to get their panties all twisted in a bunch over political correctness but a lot of things developed first in Asia or empires of color like Egypt that aren't exactly Caucasian looking in the classic European sense... all this proves is that some on the left can be ignoramuses too.

No Mathematics did not develop with Arabs. Babylonians for instance were the ones who invented algebra

 

[ballcaphair]

Just a general observation... The more we evolve, the more colors we become.

 

[Benvolio]

It is clearly fabrication.

On Racism and White Privilege (Teaching Tolerance)​

Your article “On Racism and White Privilege” averlooks that Backs are only 15% of the population and decreasing. Of course hotels provide shampoo for all. Are blacks unable to use the same? No doubt shampoo companies sell smapoo intended to be sold to blacks, and perhaps other brands for Asian, Hispanics etc. Who knew that they cannot use generic shampoo?
Of course bandits are not back. The majority are still white. Are there no colored band aids? Drug stores have many cosmetics products for blacks.
Most of his complaints are really just a function of numbers.
The fact is that the development of our country has indeed been overwhelmingly by whites. Partly because until recently blacks were excluded by discriminatiin from most professions and employment, while significant numbers of Hispanics and Asians is recent. We should not distort history by an affirmative action allocation of credit. What the author is suggesting is racism. The diminishment of actual contributions by some and exaggeration of that of others is racism.
We teach English Literature because ours is an English speaking country. Schools cannot teach Spanish literature, or Chinese, or Japanese, because most students speak only English. Most schools do include some black literature.
Yes, one of the problems of special privileges like affirmative action is that people will assume that success results from the special benefit. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Benvolio]

Of course band aids are available for darker skin. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-match-their-skin_us_56155977e4b0fad1591a6845

 

[Benvolio]

The article “On Racism and White Orivilege” is so trivial that it confirm that the purpose of the white privilege movement is to divide our country ever more, teach young people to see privilege, prejudice and racism where no exists. Seriously, is it white privilege for having generic shampoo, band aids, and shaving products in separate aisles in the store? Is it oppression and racism for stores to locate specialty items for blacks together? Should children be taught that it is racism and privilege?
The black crime problem is more complex, but the author complains the he was stopped by the police. It clearly does not support the usual claim of racial profiling of minorities. Isn’t the clear reason that, based on experience and probability, the police actually did believe that a lone white male cruising a black neighborhood was likely to be looking to buy drugs? Why else? All complaints of police focus on blacks overlook that crime really, really is higher in black neighborhoods. A full third of black men spend time in the penitentiary. It is no surprise that the police are hated in such communities.

 

[Kulindahr]

Most of his complaints are really just a function of numbers.
The fact is that the development of our country has indeed been overwhelmingly by whites. Partly because until recently blacks were excluded by discriminatiin from most professions and employment, while significant numbers of Hispanics and Asians is recent. We should not distort history by an affirmative action allocation of credit. What the author is suggesting is racism. The diminishment of actual contributions by some and exaggeration of that of others is racism.

But our current approach to teaching history is still somewhat distorted because it still leaves out major contributions made by non-whites. It isn't as bad as it was a few decades ago, but it needs some more work. The problem is when people want to tip over the other way, making efforts to dig up someone of every ethnic group just to say "They contributed, too!" rather than sticking to actual major contributions.

 

[opinterph]

Of course bandits are not back.

I see a similarity between the Teaching Tolerance link I posted and the work of Professor Gutierrez. It has a lot to do with awareness.


My interest in this thread is to better understand why your introduction of the Campus Reform article is also embellished with lies that not only detract from the underlying opportunity for a reasonable discussion, but also arguably cause harm to Campus Reform. (I wonder how that publication would feel about the way you introduced the topic here – while citing it as the source.)

 

[Benvolio]

I see a similarity between the Teaching Tolerance link I posted and the work of Professor Gutierrez. It has a lot to do with awareness.


My interest in this thread is to better understand why your introduction of the Campus Report article is also embellished with lies that not only detract from the underlying opportunity for a reasonable discussion, but also arguably cause harm to Campus Report. (I wonder how that publication would feel about the way you introduced the topic here – while citing it as the source.)

They were not lies, they were opinions; You want to see the Gutierrez scheme in isolation. It clearly is part of the larger attack on whites, alleged “white privilege” and white culture. The shows in her article as she takes it for granted that her readers agree with her that white culture i.e. “whiteness” is a bad thing, to be resisted. I started the threat to discuss the larger agenda. And like it or not the entire anti-whiteness movement stems from the historic fact that minorities largely vote democrat, while whites tend to vote Republican demonizing and marginalizing whites serves the political purpose of inflaming minorities, including new arrivals against whites and Republicans.

 

[Benvolio]

Where is this leading? 50% of millennials think they would prefer socialism or communism. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/millennials-communism-sounds-pretty-chill-2017-11-01
Communism is a totalitarian form of socialism/liberalism. Are we not moving in that direction?

 

[opinterph]

They were not lies, they were opinions

the very best America and the West have to offer.

Where is this leading?

ay, there's the rub! ...

 

[Kulindahr]

No Mathematics did not develop with Arabs. Babylonians for instance were the ones who invented algebra

Yes; the Arabs advanced algebra to a higher level, but they hardly invented it.

 

[Kulindahr]

Where is this leading? 50% of millennials think they would prefer socialism or communism. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/millennials-communism-sounds-pretty-chill-2017-11-01
Communism is a totalitarian form of socialism/liberalism. Are we not moving in that direction?

Did you bother to read that? Here's the important line:

"The survey, which was conducted by research and data firm YouGov, found that millennials are the least knowledgable generation on the subject, with 71% failing to identify the proper definition of communism."

They're like people who hate "Obamacare" but when told what's in the ACA think it's great.

 

[Benvolio]

Did you bother to read that? Here's the important line:

"The survey, which was conducted by research and data firm YouGov, found that millennials are the least knowledgable generation on the subject, with 71% failing to identify the proper definition of communism."

They're like people who hate "Obamacare" but when told what's in the ACA think it's great.

The point is, they will be willing to vote for socialist/communist leanig candidates. Understanding is not a prerequisite. Socialism is never a knowledgeable choice; it is an emotional reaction born of envy and resentment.

 

[opinterph]

demonizing and marginalizing whites

That is exactly what you are doing.​

 

[Kulindahr]

Socialism is never a knowledgeable choice; it is an emotional reaction born of envy and resentment.

Socialism is as much a "knowledgeable choice" as is capitalism. The history of the U.S. demonstrates that both are healthy elements within limits.

Or do you really think that all the wealthy and well-off people in Europe who support socialist programs in their countries are doing so out of "envy and resentment"?

 

[Kulindahr]

That is exactly what you are doing.​

Oh, he only demonizes whites who are willing to recognize that "all men are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights".

 

[opinterph]

And like it or not the entire anti-whiteness movement stems from the historic fact that minorities largely vote democrat, while whites tend to vote Republican

No, it stems from the late Bob Whitaker.

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism (The Federalist; May 2016)​

 

[Benvolio]

No, it stems from the late Bob Whitaker.

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism (The Federalist; May 2016)​

The article does support the divisiveness of anti-white movement. My point is that there is a partisan political purpose and effect to the divisiveness.

 

[opinterph]

My point is that there is a partisan political purpose and effect to the divisiveness.

And my point is that your promotion of the “Anti-White” mantra violates this forum’s Policy Regarding Racial or Ethnic Nationalism.

POLICY REGARDING RACIAL OR ETHNIC NATIONALISM​

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white privilege.

Notice that it is racist and decidedly anti-white. It is not attacking white racism, but is a racist attack on white accomplishment.

I think it is fair to regard it as a racist attack on white accomplishment in the area of mathematics

It is also fair to regard it as part of the overall acedemic movement arracking "whiteness" and "white privilege", which can only be regarded as a racist attack on whites.

demonizing whites and white culture and working to destroy the white majority

the anti-white campaign, including anti-white 'privilege" and anti whiteness in general are aimed at demonizing whites

a much larger attack on "'whitness" and whites

the larger movement against whiteness and "white privilege"

You want to see the Gutierrez scheme in isolation. It clearly is part of the larger attack on whites, alleged “white privilege” and white culture.

 

[Benvolio]

I disagree. As your article says: " What started as irony turned into an actual belief that white people, specifically white men, are more dangerous and immoral than any other people. Loosely backed up by historical inequities and disparities in mass shootings, this position has begun to take a serious foothold."
It is a major turning point in US and Western History, and we are not allowed to discuss it on the Current Events and Politics channel? My posts have been defensive and not an attack on other cultures or people. Are you not joining in the attack on whites "as more dangerous and immoral than ANY other people."?