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Political correctness versus Mathematics; will liberals win?

Benvolio said:
I disagree.
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You do agree that you have systematically encouraged, affirmed, and otherwise promoted the concept of Anti-White racism, proposed the existence of an Anti-White movement by schools and universities (e.g. this thread), suggested that white people and their culture will be diluted and replaced through interracial or intercultural marriage, suggested the existence of an Anti-White agenda, lamented the suppression of whites via excessive regulation (e.g. labor law), and of course promoted the idea that America is being undermined by Political Correctness ?


Benvolio said:
As your article says: " What started as irony turned into an actual belief that white people, specifically white men, are more dangerous and immoral than any other people. Loosely backed up by historical inequities and disparities in mass shootings, this position has begun to take a serious foothold."
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opinterph said:
(From linked article)
This desire to be offensive has given rise to the “alt right.” Supporters of this loosely assembled white nationalist movement understand a playful aspect to its use of slurs. But just as the Left shifted from using anti-white rhetoric as an ironic device to an actual indictment of white culture, so has the alt right come to believe much of its troubling rhetoric.
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opinterph said:
You do agree that you have systematically encouraged, affirmed, and otherwise promoted the concept of Anti-White racism, proposed the existence of an Anti-White movement by schools and universities (e.g. this thread), suggested that white people and their culture will be diluted and replaced through interracial or intercultural marriage, suggested the existence of an Anti-White agenda, lamented the suppression of whites via excessive regulation (e.g. labor law), and of course promoted the idea that America is being undermined by Political Correctness ?
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I am sure that I have never discussed interracial or intercultural marriage. I have discussed the intentional destruction of the white majority by abortion and immigration, as racist. I have not "lamented the suppression of whites via excessive regulation" or labor law. I have objected to the excessive regulation of free enterprise and business, including by the labor laws. Of course I have objected to anti white racism. Are you saying that racism is OK? Yes there clearly is an anti white movement in schools and universities, or as they call it anti "whiteness".
And, yes, the liberals/democrats have an anti white agenda: demonizing whites solidifies the minority voter. Do you seriously doubt those things? They are intuitionally promoting divisiveness to separate minorities from whites; instead of a unified assimilated people they want diversity and multiculturalism; a hodgepodge. Assimilated Americans are likely to vote Republicans.
Frankly, i think you feel uncomfortable discussing these things and for that reason you think you hear me saying things which I have not. You think you are hearing white racism because you are trained to see and deal with it: it fits into your anti white, anti conservative stereotype.
 
It is unfortunate when a thread runs way off the rails, assuming a trajectory and scope that no one could have foreseen. We have all been there. The article in question is part of a research project around paradigms for the education of mathematics teachers. Ms. Gutierrez is clearly coming from the perspective of minority activism. However, to refocus this discussion, her thesis is not at all unreasonable. Basically, mathematics is the Golden Ticket to Successville. Successville is disproportionately a Whites-only enclave. Ergo, why are only Whites getting a ticket, and why is it so fucking important? What's wrong with this picture? To perceive this argument as an attack on White Culture with much larger implications is proving her point. What makes this discourse on the political implications of mathematics education such a threat to White Culture. Science is objective. Race, color, language, religion...are all irrelevant. The discussion point here is not Math per se. It is how it is approached and taught and what that means to Society. Math educators need to be aware of the political and socioeconomic significance of their discipline. Secretary DeVos is in the process of undermining and dismantling public education. Analogous to our EPA that is charged to destroy the environment, so too, the Department of Education under this Administration is an oxymoron. The rationale for this is to further limit access to education for the poor, minorities and working classes. Hence, education in our nation is very politicized. Reducing access to public education is the Global Warming of our social fabric. In this context, Ms. Gutierrez position is not only significant, but undeniable.
 
Benvolio said:
demonizing whites solidifies the minority voter.
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It also solidifies white nationalists. (Persons need not be non-white to be labeled anti-white.)

You appear to be promoting the use of Anti-White as a descriptor for racism that you perceive to result from government or institutional policies of restriction or benefit.

You also appear to be using the Anti-White mantra to describe a plot that you perceive to exist in the Democratic Party to adopt an agenda that is unfavorable to whites, while simultaneously encouraging diversity and multiculturalism.

You do not appear to be using the Anti-White mantra to describe Antifa or similar elements of the Left.
 
opinterph said:
It also solidifies white nationalists. (Persons need not be non-white to be labeled anti-white.)

You appear to be promoting the use of Anti-White as a descriptor for racism that you perceive to result from government or institutional policies of restriction or benefit.

You also appear to be using the Anti-White mantra to describe a plot that you perceive to exist in the Democratic Party to adopt an agenda that is unfavorable to whites, while simultaneously encouraging diversity and multiculturalism.

You do not appear to be using the Anti-White mantra to describe Antifa or similar elements of the Left.
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Yes the anti white movement is giving rise to white nationalism, but I think that is intended. Democrats/ liberals have been accusing Republicans of being racists for years. I think they are pleased to see it come true. Certainly they white nationalism will figure prominently in democrat rhetoric from now on.
If you doubt an anti white agenda, remember Dodd-Frank Act. But that is only an example.
After the civil war the GOP was dominant. Democrats became an alliance of minorities: southern racial bigots, Catholics, Jews and other immigrants. But they were the minority party. By 1965 that was still true and immigration gave biggest quotas to northern a Europeans. In 1965 the democrats amended immigration to eliminate quotas with the forearm purpose of increasing minorities. After Roe v Wade, abortion bacame a favorite of the democrats with the effect and probable purpose of destroying the white majority. Clinton saw it in the near future and said it would be good. Obama declared he wanted an hodgepodge [instead of the existing American people ] he made immigration legal and illegal a priority, planting immigrant communities in Republican areas.
But diversity and multiculturalism are alternatives to a unified, assimilated culture, the former goal of a melting pot. Diversity is the opposite of unity. It is inherently divisive. And of course, the people were given no voice in this change being imposed on them. If whites vote Repiblican, democrats have to destroy the white majority to impose their agenda, do they not? They are.succeeding.
Antifa has not been discussed much here, but it is an essentially an anti-white movement stirred up by college demonization of whites in attacks on Whiteness, white privilege, microaggressio, speech codes, and actual courses like “black studies” which teach students to see racism where non intended and to discourage assimilation. Antifa purports to be anti fascist, but it is an extension of the liberal demonization of all republicans as fascists and racists—includung your SPLC. I do not believe it is a grass roots movement but is stirred by organizations receiving funding from Soros and similar individuals.
 
I guess Reagan saw how far affirmative action would be carried. He was right. Now everyone gets it except white males. So much for fifth amendment
equal protection of the law.
 
Benvolio said:
instead of a unified assimilated people [the liberals/democrats] want diversity and multiculturalism; a hodgepodge
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Why can’t white people assimilate?
 
Greeks are white? They're like Italian, only more so.
 
Benvolio said:
Yes the anti white movement is giving rise to white nationalism, but I think that is intended. Democrats/ liberals have been accusing Republicans of being racists for years. I think they are pleased to see it come true.
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What happens when people who don't resemble a thing get described as it?

Nothing, because that's not how good intentions work. Feminists have been called nazis for years, and not a damn thing. Blaming republican actions on democrats believing republicans will be racist is ridiculous.

Also, diversity is not the enemy of unity. A melting pot (located in a kitchen) keeps individual ingredients in a flavorsome whole. Your ass is thinking of a smelting pot at the forger's which burns impurities away. Other people are not a cultural or religious or skin-toned impurity. Your mind seems diseased on these subjects.
 
opinterph said:
Why can’t white people assimilate?
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The melting pot demands everyone assimilate. Not like the Borg, more in the realm of 'you're all stuck in this pot and we need a tasty whole, so putchur best foot forward and shuffle up some room'.

It's just some people keep tossing a longing glance over to the metalworker's shop. I'm certain there's a 'one true ring' reference that'd be good here but I'm too sleepy to catch it.
 
-Beisides, even if someone did consider it a more literal extension of the Crucible play than they're meant to, white people aren't the end result of the smelting process. Burning away the conception of ethnicity does not mean leaving your entire life experience of culture and practice behind.
 
Benvolio said:
the anti white movement
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Please describe who or what comprises “the anti white movement.” For example, if I wanted to chat with a leader of the anti white movement, whom would I call?
 
^ Probably ourselves. We seem to be the problem by promoting equality and not believing in 'the supreme race'.
 
@ Benvolio

I’m running out of polite things to say to you.
 
opinterph said:
@ Benvolio

I’m running out of polite things to say to you.
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I do not understand why you cannot see the anti-white movement. I gave you the article by the professor who complains of white couples have children, because it promotes supremacy. Notice that the supremacy she complains of is numerical supremacy maintained by having children. But I guess you don’t see racism in that. Suppose I complained of “black privilege” or “blackness”, or the numbers of blacks, you would see racism. You have not engaged in debate but merely asked questions. I do not know you position, except by inference.
 
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