Political correctness versus Mathematics; will liberals win?

[ballcaphair]

Concerning the OP's topic, I don't see how PC is anti-math. The term politically correct is pejorative and I understand its use. Mathematics is Mathematics on sound footing. As a conservative, I don't see either party practicing math when it comes to money. Consider both sides of the aisle ignorant and wasteful.

 

[gsdx]

I don't see either party practicing math when it comes to money. Consider both sides of the aisle ignorant and wasteful.

Math doesn't come into it when spending other people's money.

 

[Benvolio]

Math doesn't come into it when spending other people's money.

What you are missing is that liberals, academic and political, have developed an ideology that everything whites do is wrong. It is only a matter of deciding which category of wrongness it fits into; if it is not racism, it is white privilege, whiteness, white supremacy or white nationalism. And, they are teaching it in schools and universities. If you think "everything" is an exaggeration, the OP is a writer who thinks mathematics is white privilege because some of it was devised by and named after whites; Another link by opinterph is a whiter who complains that the shampoo given in hotels is white privilege because it is not black specialty shampoo, and that blacks are oppressed in that their products are together in the store and not spread out; another link below is a writer who complains that white parents have white children, which promotes the white majority and thus supremacy. Further, if whites complain about the hostility and demonization it is "white nationalism", as demonstrated in #58 below. It is an ideology designed to inflame the minority voters, and justify more limitations on human freedom.

 

[ballcaphair]

Math doesn't come into it when spending other people's money.

Amen. Amen.

 

[Kulindahr]

I've spent a fair amount of time listening to old white farmers complain about evil Yankee Unions ruing the country, yeah, down at the diner across from the Farmer's Co-Op, to which they all belong.

I was thinking specifically of a plumber's assistant who whined about evil unions while charging $90/hr for repair work to pipes.

 

[Kulindahr]

Concerning the OP's topic, I don't see how PC is anti-math. The term politically correct is pejorative and I understand its use. Mathematics is Mathematics on sound footing. As a conservative, I don't see either party practicing math when it comes to money. Consider both sides of the aisle ignorant and wasteful.

I'd like a law to impose some math on their money; first, the stick: reduce their salaries by the same portion that servicing the debt is of the budget (and take Social Security out of the budget along with any other programs that are pay-in to get something back). At the moment that would be around a 12.5% - 15% salary cut.

Then the carrot: for every 10% of the current total debt they eliminate -- not deficit, but debt -- they get a 25% salary bonus on July 4th of the following year.

 

[Kulindahr]

What you are missing is that liberals, academic and political, have developed an ideology that everything whites do is wrong. It is only a matter of deciding which category of wrongness it fits into; if it is not racism, it is white privilege, whiteness, white supremacy or white nationalism. And, they are teaching it in schools and universities. If you think "everything" is an exaggeration, the OP is a writer who thinks mathematics is white privilege because some of it was devised by and named after whites; Another link by opinterph is a whiter who complains that the shampoo given in hotels is white privilege because it is not black specialty shampoo, and that blacks are oppressed in that their products are together in the store and not spread out; another link below is a writer who complains that white parents have white children, which promotes the white majority and thus supremacy. Further, if whites complain about the hostility and demonization it is "white nationalism", as demonstrated in #58 below. It is an ideology designed to inflame the minority voters, and justify more limitations on human freedom.

In the local grocery store I prefer, they have an "ethnic" aisle. It contains Hispanic, Thai, Swiss, and Norwegian, among others. So the lutefisk is on the shelf near the jalapenos and stuff.

 

[opinterph]

What you are missing …

You have not yet presented a coherent argument. (Just a bunch of bits and pieces.)

 

[Benvolio]

You have not yet presented a coherent argument. (Just a bunch of bits and pieces.)

You are not an impartial observer, and I doubt if anything could convince you. Remember "minorities to the maximum extent possible", and that was the democrat Congress .
I suggested as a summary, the Federalist article. You focus on the nationalism which it criticized, whiles I posted it for the anti-white history.
The article arguing that white people having babies promotes supremacy regards the existence of the white majority as wrong. That is entirely consistent with Clinton's praising the end of the white majority as a good thing, Obama's preference for a hodgepodge and the democrat party's priorities for abortion and immigration. I think the end of the white majority is the intended, albiet seldom spoken, policy of the democrat party. Advocacy of the majority may be nationalism, but working to end the majority is racism and it is genocide if abortion is intended to have that effect.
In the past, I have often pointed to course in schools and colleges on "the problem of whiteness" and "white privilege". Beyond that I could give more articles and speeches against whiteness, but they would be cumulative.

 

[Benvolio]

Here is Biden saying the end of the European majority is a good thing. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...rity-in-2017-census-says-2044/article/2567351

 

[Benvolio]

Here is Schumer democrat senate leader listing immigration as first in his priorities. https://theintercept.com/2016/10/19...ity-for-next-year-is-giant-corporate-tax-cut/

 

[opinterph]

You are not an impartial observer

I asked for coherent and you produced 5 responses.[SUP]*[/SUP] (More bits and pieces)

I am trying to understand your message in some way that embraces logic. I don’t need more links and proof, but rather the concept itself.

Maybe you could scribble an outline on a notepad and then work those ideas into a single statement or essay.


Maybe the following will help you get started.

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Liberals, academic and political, have developed an ideology that everything whites do is wrong and they are teaching it in schools and universities.

There is a partisan political purpose and effect to the divisiveness.

It is an ideology designed to inflame the minority voters, and justify more limitations on human freedom.

This is an extension of the rules of this forum, which equate culture with race and forbid comparisons of culture.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I'm trying to understand this thread, something about math and white people being oppressed by blacks and guilt-laden whites?

 

[Benvolio]

Democrats are certain that their policies are right, but historically they are the party of minorities, while Republicans are the party of the white Christian majority and are often elected. So, the democrats want to establish a permanent one party control of the Federal and later State governments. SO, they have to destroy the white Christian majority and with it the Republican party. As early as 1965 they realized that immigration would reduce the WC majority, so they amended the immigration laws to end the priority for Northern Europeans They received an added boost when Roe v Wade prohibited the states from limiting abortion. Who knows if democrats planned it that way, but they have made abortion rights one of their priorities and it facilitates their plan. The combination of abortion and immigration assures the end of the WC majority as early as 2044, and the democrats regard this as a good thing.
In the mean time, they realize that they can gain more votes from the minorities by teaching them to hate whites and Republicans. They have historically used class hatred for that purpose accusing the Republicans and white wealthy people of being greedy and not paying their share of taxes etc. But class warfare is not working as well as they thought.
They have for years demonized whites and Republicans calling them racists, knowing that that would inflame non-whites against the white Republicans, all they while doing whatever they can to promote large scale immigration.
More recently they devised the concept further demonizing by teaching the very "whiteness" of whites, and "white privilege" which is intended to seem like racism but which can be seen in everything whites do or say. Accusations of White Supremacy and White Nationalism convert the fact of the white majority into a bad, evil thing, justifying their immigration and inflaming the immigrants to vote democrat. Worse, any attempt by whites to defend themselves or to object to the anti white agenda is characterized as White Supremacy or Nationalism. All this creates divisiveness, which is justified by claiming that unity and assimilation are less desirable than division or diversity and multiculturalism. Minorities are urged not to unify, not to assimilate but to remain separate from majority and thus more likely to vote democrat.
Make no mistake it is working. The democrats have a permanent numeric majority and only the Electoral College gives Republicans a chance, but that chance dwindles with immigration and abortion. When, not if, the democrats gain the majority on the Supreme Court, it will change election laws to favor democrats. Chicago has not elected a Republican since the 30s, so the democrat plan is very plausible and very close to success. We will have a pseudo democracy with votes, going through the motions, but with NO real chance to change the result. There are numerous such "democracies" including Mexico and Russia and Communist countries.

 

[ballcaphair]

^ I see your argument and believe that you are passionate and sincere. This is why I am a Conservative. We have to do as much as possible with the least government financial and moral expense. The more we evolve, the more colors we become. This is our future regardless of party, color or religion. We must work with that reality. It may fuel a Conservative ethic...doing more with less.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Democrats are certain that their policies are right, but historically they are the party of minorities, while Republicans are the party of the white Christian majority and are often elected.

This is why knowledge should be more important than opinions. Over the past few decades the parties have flip-flopped, republicans freed the slaves, republicans gave us the Civil Rights Act that Dems didn't want to pass. In fact, the republican party was literally born out of opposition to slavery circa the Civil War. You can't trust everything you read on stormfront girl.

 

[Benvolio]

This is why knowledge should be more important than opinions. Over the past few decades the parties have flip-flopped, republicans freed the slaves, republicans gave us the Civil Rights Act that Dems didn't want to pass. In fact, the republican party was literally born out of opposition to slavery circa the Civil War. You can't trust everything you read on stormfront girl.

Nevertheless, minorities, including blacks, overwhelmingly vote democrat and there is little chance of that changing. L

 

[Kulindahr]

... Clinton's praising the end of the white majority as a good thing,

If you believe the ideas of the Declaration of Independence and believe in human dignity, Clinton was correct, sociologically speaking: societies with no majority ethnic group show higher levels of respect for others. Two important factors should be mentioned: the more minorities, the stronger this result, and the more shared core values, the stronger this result.

So for what America stands for, Clinton was on target, if as a nation we can all hold to the core values especially as expressed in the Declaration and the Bill of Rights.

The failure in your position is that you assume that only a white majority can preserve those values.

Obama's preference for a hodgepodge

Again the false claim -- this has been refuted. He merely observed what we are; he didn't say it was a good thing or a bad thing.

and the democrat party's priorities for abortion and immigration. I think the end of the white majority is the intended, albiet seldom spoken, policy of the democrat party. Advocacy of the majority may be nationalism, but working to end the majority is racism and it is genocide if abortion is intended to have that effect.

It can be called racism if and only if the reason for it is race. In neither Cinton's nor Obama's case have you made any compelling argument that this is so.

In the past, I have often pointed to course in schools and colleges on "the problem of whiteness" and "white privilege". Beyond that I could give more articles and speeches against whiteness, but they would be cumulative.

Observation and examination of a phenomenon is not an endorsement of that phenomenon.

 

[Kulindahr]

Here is Biden saying the end of the European majority is a good thing. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...rity-in-2017-census-says-2044/article/2567351

Good old "shoot your 12-gauge through the door" Biden. Not surprisingly, he got some information wrong.

 

[Kulindahr]

Here is Schumer democrat senate leader listing immigration as first in his priorities. https://theintercept.com/2016/10/19...ity-for-next-year-is-giant-corporate-tax-cut/

Immigration was one of Trump's priorities, and is one of Ryan's and McConnell's as well.

Anyone who had actually trained as a lawyer would look for what they want to do about immigration, since plainly two people can both have it as a priority issue yet be almost totally opposed as what to do on the matter.