President Barack Obama

[BlueD]

No. He is hot to those that think he is hot. He isn't to those that think he isn't.

And it's really juvenile of you to even be arguing with me about something so stupid and irrelevant.

Whether you think Obama looks like a monkey or not, really has no bearing on his abilities as a politician.

I didn't say anything about his abilities as a politician, did I?
And it's really juvenile of YOU to even be arguing with me about something like this.

 

[sunoftheskye]

I didn't say anything about his abilities as a politician, did I?
And it's really juvenile of YOU to even be arguing with me about something like this.

Exactly.....

 

[sunoftheskye]

On pure facts look at the statistics, he won mostly in dominantly black states. (im not racist by the way! just facts)

Wow, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense. And more often than not, the people constantly decrying they aren't racist tend to be the ones that are.

 

[BlueD]

Exactly.....

exactly......

 

[Luka]

Wow, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense. And more often than not, the people constantly decrying they aren't racist tend to be the ones that are.

Hey, everyone has their own opinion, its not my fault yours is wrong

 

[JackFTwist]

On pure facts look at the statistics, he won mostly in dominantly black states. (im not racist by the way! just facts)

your allegationis totally false, it is a lie

which leads to doubts on your conclusion

since you made the axccusation, back it up:

please list all of the states that Obama has won and which ones you claim are "dominatly black states" [sic]

 

[sunoftheskye]

Hey, everyone has their own opinion, its not my fault yours is wrong

Hun, you're the one that stated he's "only out for African Americans" while failing to provide reasoning with any sound logic to it.

Even if you had statistics that proved all the states he won in happened to be dominantly black states, that has nothing to do with him being "only out for African Americans", and you've yet to explain why you think that is, other than who is voting for him.

 

[Luka]

whateva whateva I do what I want, try listing to his speeches, closley. He is very pugnacious. He is a horrible speaker, and has no experience, those are the main reason s I dont like him, lets get off the black thing befor everyone has a cow. By the way, thanks Musicman for listing the states But anyway, his health care plan is horrible too, and has anyone noticed he is now copying all of Hilarys plans in other things, look at cnn.com/poltics, they have a story about it....

 

[sunoftheskye]

whateva whateva I do what I want, try listing to his speeches, closley. He is very pugnacious. He is a horrible speaker, and has no experience, those are the main reason s I dont like him, lets get off the black thing befor everyone has a cow. By the way, thanks Musicman for listing the states But anyway, his health care plan is horrible too, and has anyone noticed he is now copying all of Hilarys plans in other things, look at cnn.com/poltics, they have a story about it....

Maybe you shouldn't have said it in the first place. Your other reasons for not liking him actually make some sort of sense, would've been smarter to list those than some crap about him only being out for blacks.

 

[Luka]

Maybe you shouldn't have said it in the first place. Your other reasons for not liking him actually make some sort of sense, would've been smarter to list those than some crap about him only being out for blacks.

ok, so are we friends now? hehe but anyway yea. Plus I would like to see a woman president.

 

[miatajeff]

You know I really get tired of this message of Change. What will Obama change. It is funny that you guys follow speach after speach and really don't know what this man will change. Anyone can get up there and do a speach that was wrote by someone else.

What did he change in Chicago. Most of his votes didn't change anything, He played the middle grown and yet I am shocked that young people follow him around like he is the messiah. But what can you expect from a generation of slow thinkers and quick entertainment grabbers. And that is all Obama is, a show, all fluff and no substance.

What he just said X10

 

[JackFTwist]

SC
AL
GA

Those 3 states black votes won that for him.

those are black dominated states?

Ok I'll match those and raise you one

ND
Iowa
Maine
Washington

all "white dominated" states

luka claimed the states he won were "black dominated"

I asked the names all the states that Obama won so far

you gave me three

the premise fails

and what has Obama already changed? You know dude, I posted the endorsements from the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times where some of the many those things were listed


I would suggest you might try reading what has been shared here

 

[Luka]

those are black dominated states?

Ok I'll match those and raise you one

ND
Iowa
Maine
Washington

all "white dominated" states

luka claimed the states he won were "black dominated"

I asked the names all the states that Obama won so far

you gave me three

the premise fails

and what has Obama already changed? You know dude, I posted the endorsements from the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times where some of the many those things were listed


I would suggest you might try reading what has been shared here

for the reord i didnt say all the states he won....

 

[JackFTwist]

for the reord i didnt say all the states he won....

this is what you said, first post this page:

he won mostly in dominantly black states. (im not racist by the way! just facts)

there is not a fact in your statement, not in any of those clauses, and since your assertion was bs, you now try to quibble out of it. Ok. Got where you are coming from (along with your assertion he looks like a monkey, the phrase "President Obama" sounds funny to you, and other great statements in your posts).

 

[Luka]

this is what you said, first post this page:



there is not a fact in your statement, not in any of those clauses, and since your assertion was bs, you now try to quibble out of it. Ok. Got where you are coming from (along with your assertion he looks like a monkey, the phrase "President Obama" sounds funny to you, and other great statements in your posts).

lol, i am so over this, haha if Hilary doesnt win, GO MCCAIN!!

 

[DoctorGiggles25]

NO! You asked which states he won so far and which ones were dominated by the black vote. We all know which ones he has won, but I gave you the 3 that were dominated by the black vote, because that was what you wanted him to tell you. So you got your answer.

BTW, please take the picture of Heath down, he doesn't deserve the insult.

Damn, I don't understand why your such an "token" angry black man. LoL. That "Heath" comment wasn't called for and you know it.

Whomever wins the nomination will have my support wholeheartedly. Can the same be said about you ? I know all politics is is basically picking the lesser evil and if that isn't something you like, then tough. Thats the way the world runs and even in the most basic of societies, its pretty much the same way. You guys that love bashing Obama need to realize this. This is humanity for you. Love it or hate it, your apart of it !


If you want the same old bullshit from a president and congress, then let McCain take it and your wish will be granted. That old fucker makes my skin crawl. I know he suffered injuries during his service in the war, but it just weirds me out that the man cant even raise his arms above his shoulder to wave. That and the fact that is 5 years away from 80 is a bit much for me too. I just hope the rest of the party wises up and stands behind the democratic nominee in November or I'm gonna start planning for the end times and get my own personal island setup to retreat to when the shit hits the fan.

lol, i am so over this, haha if Hilary doesnt win, GO MCCAIN!!

[Removed by Moderator] McCain my ass. Lets just throw McCain with Huckabee and they'll strip away all the rest of the rights we have left and make life a living hell for all of us. GAWD ... effin dumb asses will be the death of me !

 

[koontzfanwv]

The reason Hillary is losing out to Obama despite his lack of experience is because people realize that he will be more likely to get things done by working with Congress. Hillary is way to partisan. That and Obama comes across as someone the average non partisan American can relate to even if they disagree. There are many Americans who are sick of other Americans who are so one-sided hey refuse to listen to opposing views.Having convictions is wonderful but people can have convictions and still listen. The far right and the far left have big audiences but neither represents mainstream Republicans or Democrats. They represent ignorance.I'm registered as non partisan. I'll be voting for McCain or Obama or Obama depending on their VP choices. Definetly not Hillary or McCain if Huckabee is his VP.

 

[DoctorGiggles25]

First not a token or an angry. And we are not talking about the general election. If you are gonna support who ever wins, then why vote now for anyone, why not just flip a coin and pick heads or tails? I am not a dem or rep. I am ind. So who I vote for and support is my choice.

Wow, you could've fooled me. All the comments that I have read over from you in this thread seem a bit angry. At what ? I don't know.

Anyways, if this had been any other election then yes, I would agree with you, but this is about supporting a Democratic nominee to take back the White House and hopefully get America back on track. No matter if its a black man or a white woman. If you look at Obama and Clintons' stances on the issues side to side, they basically have the same rhetoric and ideas for rectifying America.

If you really think about it, this party stuff isn't as important as it used to be. Hell everyone is an Independent and so they vote for and support whomever they want as do I. You may not know this, but I've supported Barack Obama every since I heard the man speak at the 2004 DNC. As I've previously stated, I will support whomever wins the nomination because I am vehement about kicking the Republicans out of the White House in 2009. The situation this go around is so different that nit picking every little thing about the Democratic candidates isn't conducive and it splits the party, that of which I'm sure is exactly what the Republicans want. I believe its about making this country better for the long haul so that the next 8 years wont have to be as painful as these last have.

Back to the "token" comment. So you are saying that I am a "token" because I am not running after Obama supporting him. So are you saying I should support him because he is black and because I don't I am a "token" When in fact really take a look at who is the "token" and when that "token" screws up how fast do you think he will go from being a "token" to a "nigger".

WTF are you talking about ... ? I was referring to the demeanor in which your portraying. You just happen to be black and thats why I referred to you, Musicman-bflat, as the "token angry black man" as a joke. Unfortunately, you've decided to take this way out of context. I did not say anything about your "running after Obama" cause you just happen to be black as well. LOL. Wow, you are something else.

BTW, I don't think Obama can screw us up any more than George Walker Bush has these last 8 years and for you to think that he would be called a "n***r" just because he's half black is completely ridiculous. People, especially politicians and irregardless of skin tone, have been fucking up since we started walking upright and Obama would be no different. Its human nature. If you think you can do a better a job, why don't you run in 2012 and let me know how that goes ! LoL.

Besides, I don't think Hillary Clinton and John McCain for that matter would be called anything nicer if they just happen to drop the ball as well. I recommend you step down off of your high horse of knowledge and join the rest of us living on the surface.

 

[Glafna]

Luka, a few suggestions. Don't make accusations and assumptions without evidentiary support.

Also, please don't pull a Pisces(I believe that's the guy) on us, I don't know if he's still around, but one bout of his type was enough.

Finally, the way you are putting things, it seems like your a member of the KKGay. I don't know if your racist, but read over what you wrote, and do some editing to make sure no one confuses what your saying.