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questions about open realtionships

JASON0980

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Does any one here have an open relationship?

If so:

How does it work for you?
How did you come to the conclusion that an open relationship was the best route for you and your partner?
How did you approach your partner about it (or your partner approach you about it)?

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Never been in one, but I don't think I could...
 
I have been thinking about it seriously for a little while now. Don't get me wrong i love sex with my partner, I just think that an open relationship would solve a few of our issues. Just not sure how to approach the subject with him.
 
Ok... in the past I have been a tough opponent to open relationships but over the past year or so I have spoken to a few people... mostly members here and have realized that while an open relationship wouldn't work for me it can work for others.

However... one of the things I have learned from those conversations is that opening a relationship should be done for the mutual benefit of both parties. It should never be used as a band aid. Meaning that don't use it to deal with an existing problem otherwise it becomes MORE of a problem than you started with.

If you seriously want to do it make sure you are doing it for the right reasons and also make sure you are doing it with the mutual consent of your bf. Make sure you have some guidelines in place and that certian boundaires are not crossed.
 
Jason...good to see you. Looking hot as ever.

I got nothing in response to your question however.

But I'm not sure that it will solve the issues.

Communication will.

And maybe not always to your liking.
 
maybe I should clarify what the issues are a little bit. The main issue between us is that we both love sex but we never seem to want it at the same time. And there are some things that i like to do in bed that he doesn't and there are things that he likes to do that I don't. we are both very open with each other about the fact that we are both attracted to other men, and it has caused no problems between us so far. Sometimes we are attracted to the same man and sometimes i am attracted to guys he wouldn't sleep with and the other way around.

And i feel that maybe if we open up our relationship, the experiences with other people would help us better understand what we like and don't like, things that we wouldn't think of doing if someone else hadn't thought of it for us.

these are the reasons i have been considering an open relationship. i don't know if these are good reasons or if i am trying to make them good reasons.
 
Those are definitely good, legit reasons.

First, once you talk about it, you need to decide the ground rules, if any. Do you want sexual non-monogamy? What about emotional non-monogamy? If you only desire sexual non-monogamy, how do you plan on keeping the lines between the two from becoming blurred? If you want total polyamory (sexual and emotional non-monogamy) then you also have to decide if you just want multiple partners, or if you want to use the "primary partner" model, wherein every other lover takes a backseat to your primary partner.

From the sounds of it, you just want sexual non-monogamy. That's what my boyfriend and I do, as well. We have similar reasons that you listed - we're honest, attracted to other guys on a physical level and not very threatened by that... we both realize that just because you're in love doesn't mean you suddenly stop noticing other people. We have some separate interests in bed, separate kind of guys that we like to fuck sometimes, and we're both tops so sometimes it's fun to be able to top the fuck out of another guy. Plus, we're young, so allowing ourselves to still have sexual desires and experiences beyond ourselves seems appropriate and actually more mature than trying to pretend we only want to fuck each other.

For us, it works like this: we can only hook up with other guys once every couple of weeks. When we do hook up, we play it safe: condoms for anal sex. The person we hook up with is not exactly a good friend or something like that. We don't tell each other unless asked, but if asked we have to tell. That rule was awkward at first but gets easier over time - to a point where we'll say to each other, "Oh, you hooked up? How was it?" and indulge in the details. But I have to admit it's still reassuring if no cell phone numbers were exchanged... Let's see, other 'rules'... once you hook up with the guy, you can't hook up with him again (this one might not be for everyone, but it does keep us from falling in love with a fuck buddy). Oh yeah, and you can't "plan" your hook up, ie, "Sorry babe, I can't hang out tonight. I have to go fuck this guy." It should be spontaneous.

That should give you an idea. Our rules are also open to negotiation. They've changed a lot since we opened up. We used to have a no-kissing other guys rule, an all-safe even for BJ's rule, etc. But we're open to discussing changing them too, so we got rid of those for practical reasons.

As for your second question, actually at first my partner hated the idea, which I found very unfair because he knew that when he met me that I was not a monogamous person. We started dating, monogamously, but agreed that we would only be monog in the beginning just to make things less complicated. After a few months, I told him I felt secure and comfortable enough to be open with him, and I was thinking pretty open - fuck buddy open - and eventually he compromised (after thinking about what he wanted, too) and we have the model we have now. He actually uses it more than me, in fact.

It's not perfect. I'm finding it difficult to hook up with people without much interaction first - that was much easier when I was single and it was less obvious that I was merely looking for sex. Also finding the one-fuck-per-person idea a little strange lately. But not sure how comfortable I'd be if he were fucking another guy on the regular.

As for your third question - well, I just brought it up honestly. He knew I was into that from the beginning so it wasn't out of nowhere, although he was uncomfortable at first because he went through the typical "why am I not enough" or "do I not fulfill you completely" kind of questions - which is not the point at all. It took a lot of talking to explain how just because you want to have sex with other people occasionally doesn't mean that the person you're really with somehow isn't "enough" - it's not about having 'enough', it's about expanding experiences. Be prepared for a little uncomfortable conversation, but it sounds like you guys might be okay if you can already at least discuss being attracted to other guys. Just make sure he isn't one of those prissy guys that will "show you the door" if you bring up the subject, one of those guys that will say "you want to have sex with other guys? then you can go ahead and be single!" - although, hopefully you wouldn't want to be dating someone so rash in the first place. But there's a lot of guys like that out there.

I'd also highly recommend the book The Ethical Slut. It has a new-age hippie kind of tone, and is mostly geared towards "polyamory", but it's also useful for people just looking to be non-monogamous in general. There's also plenty of great resources online.
 
Thank you SayMyName. that was a great post, there is a lot there to think about and i will bring a lot of this up when we have the discussion. you also did touch on another one of the reasons i am thinking this may be a good solution for us. we are both tops and while i have become somewhat of a bottom for him, i don't believe that that is something he would ever consider doing for me, and i don't blame him.
 
There was one point I left out. We've also agreed that, if we do have sex with someone and find them irresistibly alluring and develop some kind of crush/feelings for that person, then we should tell each other, as opposed to hiding it. So far this hasn't happened, and if my boyfriend meets someone he finds really interesting and nice like that, then he won't have sex with him so it doesn't happen. But it's important to be aware that that can happen and to know beforehand how you would both want to handle it if it came up.
 
My best friend and his partner have been in an open relationship for 5 years now and it works fine for them. Its purely a sex with others only thing for them and they have no problems with it. I think the only way to approach it is to talk to your partner. Perhaps suggest a 3way first with someone you both are attracted to and you can see how you feel after
 
Jason this is only my opinion, I have been around the block a few times though. I believe opening up an otherwise monogamous relationship is a fabulous way to say goodbye!!!!
 
Well i brought it up with him. To be honest I'm not sure how it went. He just kind of looked at me. It was odd. He didn't seem to get angry or anything, but I'm not sure what he's thinking. he hasn't given an answer yet, and I am not going to push it. Which most likely means that he will not give an answer, and the issues will just sit there. Little disappointed that there wasn't a real conversation about it regardless of the outcome. It would have been nice to at least talk about it. But oh well.
 
I'm not really a jealous person anymore I have been in past relationships, but with him there is no doubt that we will be together for the rest of our lives, so I'm not afraid of someone better coming along, because we fit to well together. I'm not sure if this is making any since.
 
Jason0980, it's absolutely great seeing you back on JUB!

I was going to avoid posting here because these threads devolve into a lot of mudslinging, usually.

But I had to come here to say saymyname gave a great overview and response.

I'll share my observations of the 10 years, and counting, that I've been in an open relationship with you later via PM.
 
Jason0980, it's absolutely great seeing you back on JUB!

I was going to avoid posting here because these threads devolve into a lot of mudslinging, usually.

But I had to come here to say saymyname gave a great overview and response.

I'll share my observations of the 10 years, and counting, that I've been in an open relationship with you later via PM.

Hi NineOfClubs! he did give a great response. looking forward to your PM.
 
this is beginning to not add up in my mind

you two are soul mates and will be together forever

but the sex isnt gratifying enough, different likes and dislikes and timing

jason, basically each of you only have 2 holes and one pole. seems like if you two really wanted a fulfilled sex life you two would give in a bit and just do what the other wants. do it long enough and it might become enjoyable

I'm not saying the sex isn't good. its great. but making him do things he doesn't want to do to make me happy, and vise-versa, just doesn't work for me. and it doesn't seem fair that he should have to jump every time i want it and i should have to jump every he wants it. its not something i'm willing to fight over but it is an idea on how to correct some thing i have been able to find no other solution for.
 
i dont want you to think i'm being condescending or judgmental (*8*)

it should not be about making the other do something it should be about wanting to make my life's partner happy

just seems this is a symptom of another problem

best wishes and i hope you the best

I know you're not trying to be condescending, sorry if that came out a little bitchy, I didn't mean for it too. :kiss:

There is something I haven't mentioned. I hinted at it earlier, but didn't come right out with it. I said that I am a top, and that I don't blame him for not wanting to take it. Well there is a reason I don't blame him for it. If I was presented with my own cock and asked to take it my response would be "Hell No!" Its kind of big. And I can understand that it would be painful for someone who is not used to being a bottom. So I can't expect him to take something that I myself could never take.
 
A few things:

first of all, everyone can feel jealousy. Just because you're normal and human and you might get a little jealous at times, doesn't mean you can't be open. There's ways to deal with that.

second, wanting to be open or polyamorous does NOT MEAN, AT ALL that the sex you are having with your boyfriend isn't satisfying, it merely means that you have enough sexual energy in your life to explore more and experience more.

When a mother has one child, and is pregnant with another, does that mean that the first child somehow "isn't enough"? Love/sex do not operate in the mode of a starvation economy, they are infinite. It's about what you create and what kind of experiences you have the capacity for.
 
I found post #10 so useful - thanks!

Me and my partner are beginning a journey of open-ness.

One question - in ur experiences is it better to play together or apart? And how long does the jealousy last?
 
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