Race and gay guys.

[EwanSF]

Thought I might as well clarify this, in case you guys think I need a pointy hat of some sort. Fair enough, my last comparison didn't include black dudes...very good reason for that being, I live in the west of scotland, in a small town, no less. The situation doesn't get much better in glasgow. Not in the sense that there are as few black men where I live (there are about 4 out of a town that totals about 25,000,) I think, it's just there are none on the gay scene...I did feel the need to make that apparent in case there were any preconceptions formed,

 

[SwingBoy]

You do realize the scene you're setting is akin to a jewish man willingly wanting to date nazi skinheads, right?

That's just... odd. But hey... that's my opinion.

Nazi skinheads haven't formed an internationally recognised government since the 1920s. They don't compare with the old South African government.
Like I said, power is just one of a few reasons to explain the attraction.

 

[bearbacked]

In one thread you're "objectifying" men when you take an interest in other races, and in this thread you're also a racist if don't have sex outside of yours.

Meh! Just screw whoever you want to screw and let others do the same.

 

[streetblackcock99]

i will date anyone from any race, colour doesnt matter to me at all.... personally ive never understood when people say Oh i prefer white guys to black guys or vica versa...it's just skin colour it means nothing ................

 

[Level27]

streatblackcock, there's actually a root in the person's psychology that would cause them to choose based on race. In fact, I'm sure many of the individuals who say that they "don't make race a preference" or that they're "open to all race" also have this suble psychology in them. The difference between the people from these two groups is that the "non-preference" people either try to deny it to others (and to themselves), or they recognize the bigotry within them and make sincere effort to alter it by constantly telling themselves that race doesn't matter.

 

[StlKj]

I'm happy to continually discover new interests and attractions as I get older. I've discovered that my attraction to different kinds of men has nothing to do with my level of openness in accepting them, and everything to do with opening myself TO them. When I was shyer and more self-conscious, I don't think I allowed myself to be attracted to men of different races because I couldn't imagine what I would have to offer them--they just didn't blip on my radar, because I was sure I didn't blip on theirs. Then I realized I needed to stop doubting my own level of attractiveness, and started putting myself out there more socially. As I've done so, it's allowed me to develop attractions to many different types of men--older, thinner, heavier, younger, physically challenged, physically abled, and yes, men of different ethnicities.

It was never what they had to offer me that stopped me, but what I felt I did not have to offer them. Thank God I'm not only growing up, but opening up. It just means there are so many more beautiful people to choose from.

 

[kingkhan]

Because they have more body hair, which many associate with being more masculine.

Actually that is part of it black guys do come off as being more masculine to me but, then again the black guys that are flaming seem to be really flaming which is not attractive to me. I need someone who is middle of the road, not super masculine or super feminine. IDK though I probably would do something with a black guy its just in general I am still dealing with messing around with guys.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Actually that is part of it black guys do come off as being more masculine to me but, then again the black guys that are flaming seem to be really flaming which is not attractive to me.

I don't understand your logic. You take two characteristics that every race embodies and say that when black guys do either one it seems "more." I think you're just subconsciously exaggerating these characteristics, it's not uncommon.

 

[kingkhan]

^^^ Probably. And I am fully aware that it is really dumb but, what would you expect from a thread like this logical answers? But, I probably should see someone to work out any issues I have with black men and to be honest it seems to stem from issues with my father. And I only feel like I have some discriminatory feelings towards black men when it comes to sex/love? ( but in general don't feel like loving a guy) I mean I have had plenty of black guy friends and I would be with a women of any race but, for some reason I have a disconnect with the idea of doing anything sexually with a black guy.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

^^^ Probably. And I am fully aware that it is really dumb but, what would you expect from a thread like this logical answers?

The honesty was appreciated. If everyone else could do the same these discussions wouldn't be such an epic failure.

for some reason I have a disconnect with the idea of doing anything sexually with a black guy.

Atleast you acknowledge it, that's more than we can say for most who never proclaim anything beyond their preference, no reasoning.

 

[MisterMajestic]

"I need someone who is middle of the road, not super masculine or super feminine."

Interesting statement...I remember years ago a Bi-Brother once told me that even though I was Handsome, I was simply too masculine for him..I was like "What the Fuck?"...I'm a nice, down-to-earth guy, single, no kids..I'm a giver..I work for a living have my own crib and you Fucking turn me down because I'm a masculine man and I'm being MYSELF...Fuck that shit...Fuck it...

That's the CRAZY part about dealing with guys..All of the Damn hang-ups..You don't go through that shit dealing with women..Some Gay/Bi men of all races appear to be looking for the PERFECT Fantasy guy and one day they'll realize he's not coming...Brad is NOT leaving Angie and Will is NOT leaving Jada...And if you're WAITING for Ricky Martin to ADMIT to the public that he likes Dudes then you'll be WAITING for ever..

hetero-relationships work better and last longer because men & women realize they may not like everything about their mate but focus and treasure the positive things..Mr. & Mrs. Perfect does not exist in the hetero-world and straight people realized that centuries ago...

It's time for Gay/Bi men to catch up with the times...

 

[westindianstud]

I am mixed race and have lots of guys of different races interested in me, as I am in them.

I guess some guys could simply have a preference, others could be downright racist!

 

[DeafFoxDemon]

i like guys of all races, there will be days when i prefer the other race over others

 

[SwingBoy]

hetero-relationships work better and last longer because men & women realize they may not like everything about their mate but focus and treasure the positive things..Mr. & Mrs. Perfect does not exist in the hetero-world and straight people realized that centuries ago...

It's time for Gay/Bi men to catch up with the times...

You're right. I used to believe in holding out for "the one", but experience is teaching me to just go for it. I admire people who see past physical particulars and just be with other people. I'm trying not to limit myself to my own narrow physical ideals.
I've always respected and appreciated people of all races, but have had to learn to see all as potential partners. It must be very fulfilling to fall inlove with a human-being, past the body or a face.

 

[Dduder]

Why does it seem that most gay guys are always trying to get a white guy instead of other races?

Because we have the perfect bland of brains&dicks. Blacks have the biggest dicks but no intellectual inclination, whilst Asians are all brains and no dicks. White guys balance brains and dicks like ying and yang. I am a white boy and I am the perfect balance of brains&dick.

 

[Ram]

*inserts Ram's post against Cum_Slave*

Insert Cum_Slave's rebuttal:

1) First he will make blanket statements about Indians, Arabs and black people.

2) Insert the ever-so-pathetic story about his life (ugh enough already), his cunty parents and how much his community hates his ugly ass. No bonus points for the monotonous whining about Bradford and Muslim people. But bonus points will be awarded for keeping it short. Full marks for deleting account though.

3) Then he will proceed to accuse us for not knowing about Indian people and Indian culture by posting a Youtube video about a "witch" beaten up by a mob as a representation of 1 billion people in a large, diverse country over and over and over and over again in every fucking thread that has a race discussion in it.

4) Insert his sad life story again. Maybe he'll mention his fake ass illness. Or a Goodness Gracious Me reference? Using a comedy show as reference? Oh boy.

5) Validates his posts because he has meet some Indian people, been to perhaps two villages which apparently holds 1 billion people. Then claims I've not meet Indian people because I'm Indian, living Asian country (same fucking continent as India), full of other Indian people like me, constantly surrounded by Indian people, dating an Indian guy, dealing with Indian people...but yeah, he's right. I have not met the few Indian people he has met for me to immediately stereotype the rest of us.

6) Talks about how he might be killed for being himself (Promises, promises).

7) Then post skanky ass photos of himself that nobody wants to see (rare but I hoping it will stay rare).

*Ram won't post his rebuttal. Cant, actually. Hot Indian boyfriend too busy licking his earlobes. Oh -- and life. Life and a hot Indian boyfriend, and sex, and parents that love him, gets in his way.*

There. Cum_Slave, see I kept it short and sweet.

 

[Ram]

And to quote one of the actresses from Goodness Gracious Me from an interview - 'British Indian culture is very different to Indian culture'.

- They are a lot more backward in the UK then asians in India and Pakistan are.

4) Insert his sad life story again. Maybe he'll mention his fake ass illness. Or a Goodness Gracious Me reference? Using a comedy show as reference? Oh boy.

But the thread is titled race and gay guys, and my discussion is on topic and relevant to the thread question. If you dont like my posts, please feel free to put me on ignore.

Sure they are relevant.

I didn't say I didn't like your posts. I just merely oppose your points and style of argument (them being baseless and overly conclusive). Hey, if you can't handle oppositions, please feel free to put me on ignore.

 

[Ram]

Your oppositions to me are always on a personal level, and usually degrading and you like to make yourself sound better then I am.
I have never posted a personal insult towards you, I am simply describing what some people are like. I never grouped you into this category, nor have I said that everyone is the same, but you will continue to be offended by my opinions because you think that everyone is like you, and resort to personal attacks against me for saying my opinions to try and invalidate what I say.

You know all those things you called us Indians? Well, guess what I'm Indian. So is my family, my friends and my community. You made it personal with your shit statements about us. I know you're not attacking us, but your stereotypes, dude, after you've gotten your head sorted out, go back and read them.

And you also resort to the childish 'dont listen to what Cum_slave says, he is wrong and I am right just because I say so'.

Because it's tiring on my part. Do you know why I keep "harassing" you about your opinions? Don't get me wrong: I don't give two shits about you. It's the anti-Indians, the racist people that I'm worried about. You're giving them ammo. Self-hating people like you that is making it worse for all of us. They just going buy into crap you post and spew and use it against us. US.

One day, you're going to get bashed because you gave them a reason to.

I'm not saying your posts are not true. There are elements of it that I can relate. But you exaggerate them. For fuck's sake, read your posts

And you are not doing anything about it. You make all this criticisms about Indian people but yet, you do nothing to make it better. You wallow in your own self-pity and you resign to "fate". You do nothing at all and yet you criticize me for taking advantage of my freedom. I live in Singapore, a fucking regime, and I swear I have done more for gay rights in the next 5 minutes than you will ever do in your entire lifetime.

There are Muslim, Indian, Arab, Black gay groups in UK -- reach out to them.

Your oppositions to me are always on a personal level, and usually degrading and you like to make yourself sound better then I am.

You're not going to believe it of course, but outside JUB and at JUB itself, I have, on certain occasions, remarked on your intelligence. You are pretty smart. And cultured when it comes to music. You know more about books and television than I do. You phrase your sentences better; you're more eloquent than some of us; you have an awkward sense of humor -- in no fucking way, do I think I'm better than you. Maybe a little bit better...

It's mind-boggling how someone as intelligent like you can be so fucked up.

I have never met an open gay Indian person like you ever in my life, to me you are a rarity within the community in which I live and no one like you exists where I live.

I'm sorry to hear that. There are a lot of us, you know, gay Indians. We get together at the end of every month -- potluck and stuff. Then, we play card games, talk about sex, play games like charades, talk more about sex and drink a little. And sometimes, some of the gay men invite their parents (sex talk will be toned down of course). About 100+ of them on good days (very rare though; busy schedule and everything).

Some of them are like you. But they got better. If they can, so can you.

Oh, that's how I met the guy I'm seeing. Nice chap. I would totally invite you to join us. I'm pretty sure you will like this people.

And Indian lesbian women are the best.

<edit> I didn't make jokes about your condition. I just think they don't exist.

 

[Ram]

I am far happy joining and performing with a music society, which I plan on getting back into later this year after I perfect my playing ability. It was funny in my universities music society that throughout practice and performances in front of a few hundred people that I were the only asian person there as far as my eyes could see.

I will not choose to enter your or anyone elses world to make friends or to socialise, I am fed up of doing that and only getting people who I dont like. Instead, I will keep myself to my world, hobbies and interests and hopefully one day meet a like minded person. There is a very small chance of it being an asian person though because honestly - the happiest days of my life were spent in orchestras and choirs where there has never ever been a single other asian person present. My university orchestra and choir was made up of a good 50 people, performing in front of 1-200 people at a time and the only asian person there was me. I would be more then happy to meet other asian musicians, or a fan of classical and jazz music, but they are a rarity except for China where in the last decade the Piano has gained incredible popularity.

Cool. Admirable ambition.

Hey, your choice. Not mine. All I'm saying is that just because you don't see us gay Indians, doesn't mean we don't exist. Somehow they don't exist in Bradford. But yeah, we do exist.

unless it is some Indian bhangra DJ with the darn most awful music I have ever heard in my life coming from bollywood.

At least, there is one thing I can agree with you.

 

[Dduder]

Knowing your dumb ass, you're probably not kidding - just more proof that you're an asshat and a poser is all.

*i know i know, don't feed the troll...*

I assure you that I'm far more intelligent than you, so stop flattering yourself and trying to pathetically insult me because it makes you look even more stupid.

And how am I a troll? It is a fact that black men have the lower IQs and the bigger penises, that Orientals have the largest brains and the smallest penises and that white men are in between. This is why I said that white men have the best combo of dicks&brains. It's not my fault you lack the intellectual capability to comprehend this.