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Rise of Fascism in the United States [SPLIT]

Norri said:
Do tell then why are they suing?
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It's clearly posturing, and signaling intimidation to all opposititon, including the judiciary.

Bravado, chutzpah, and rhetoric.

However, it is a miscalculation. It will likely help turn some of the less radical conservatives on the court. They won't get dizzy from being near the precipice. They'll turn. Watch them.

And ultimately, Trump will force a crisis larger than January 6th, and the Court will be turned to as arbiter with the Pentagon looking on, having to decide whether to countermand and illegal order from Trump and Vance and Bondi, or follow a treasonous command. And why will thee Court be forced? Because the GOP is all covered with shit for having acquitted Trump twice before, and they most certainly won't impeach and convict him now that he's picked up the crown.

It will happen.

Only the hand of Fate or an assassin can prevenet it. Trump's ego won't let him back down and he most definitely will push it until we reach that point.
 
...House Bill 186 filed by Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, would prohibit Texas children from using social media and would require platforms to delete accounts of children at the request of a parent. It would also mandate social media companies to verify that new users are over 18. The House passed the bill by a 116-25 vote Wednesday...
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If anyone thinks for one moment this is about "protecting children," you're the wounded beast in the herd.

This is step two, now that there is precedent, the dominoes start to fall. Porn first, 'cause who will defend porn, now social media, because who doesn't want to protect the kiddies, guess what comes next. They'll require you to "verify your age as they track your online speech.
 
^Didn't we just do that with TikTok last year?
 
^^Oh, I realized that. It just seems like both state's political representatives, appointees, etc. are trying to outdo each other on their shennanigans ](*,)
 
NotHardUp1 said:
It's clearly posturing, and signaling intimidation to all opposititon, including the judiciary.
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I agree with you about the intimidation and posturing and I think the best way for the courts to respond and protect their turf is simply slow walk the case. It’s not like slow walking cases isn’t a tool in their tool box and when you feel the pressure pick a court date as far into the future as possible. If each succeeding court does the same the case may never see the light of day.

Battling pressure with frustration sounds like a Homerun to me.
 
Norri said:
I agree with you about the intimidation and posturing and I think the best way for the courts to respond and protect their turf is simply slow walk the case. It’s not like slow walking cases isn’t a tool in their tool box and when you feel the pressure pick a court date as far into the future as possible. If each succeeding court does the same the case may never see the light of day.

Battling pressure with frustration sounds like a Homerun to me.
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What I would fear with that is that it would allow the perpetuation of doubt in the public's mind, and more importantly in the administration, that the ruling might be eventually in the plaintiff's favor.

My guess is the Court will move to settle the claim in short order, to end any question of Court authority. There's a vast difference between the Court legislating from the bench and allowing its authority to be subsumed.

Delay in dealing with the assault leaves the door open for MORE bad behavior by the administration, doing exactly what Trump has said openly to his staff: go ahead and break the law because it will take years for civil suits to be settled in court, and in the meantime, you do what you intended.

Even the conservatives would not be interested in diminishing the law itself, which the imperial demand implied in the suit leads to.

I guess we'll see.
 
Norri said:
I agree with you about the intimidation and posturing and I think the best way for the courts to respond and protect their turf is simply slow walk the case. It’s not like slow walking cases isn’t a tool in their tool box and when you feel the pressure pick a court date as far into the future as possible. If each succeeding court does the same the case may never see the light of day.

Battling pressure with frustration sounds like a Homerun to me.
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In the meantime, though, they will act as if they were justified. The idea behind Miller's argument must be swiftly and absolutely repudiated.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
What I would fear with that is that it would allow the perpetuation of doubt in the public's mind, and more importantly in the administration, that the ruling might be eventually in the plaintiff's favor.

My guess is the Court will move to settle the claim in short order, to end any question of Court authority. There's a vast difference between the Court legislating from the bench and allowing its authority to be subsumed.

Delay in dealing with the assault leaves the door open for MORE bad behavior by the administration, doing exactly what Trump has said openly to his staff: go ahead and break the law because it will take years for civil suits to be settled in court, and in the meantime, you do what you intended.

Even the conservatives would not be interested in diminishing the law itself, which the imperial demand implied in the suit leads to.

I guess we'll see.
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Exactly.
 
TX-Beau said:
In the meantime, though, they will act as if they were justified. The idea behind Miller's argument must be swiftly and absolutely repudiated.
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A restraining order should do the trick after all their likelihood of winning is vanishingly small.
 
Norri said:
A restraining order should do the trick after all their likelihood of winning is vanishingly small.
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Not a restraining order, but a permanent injunction, which requires the judge to deny the lawsuit. They can still appeal the decision, but no one can act as if its validity is justified.
 
So Democracy Defenders won the case (for now) over the closure of Voice of America.

But the damge is likely irreversible.

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It should be clear by now that ICE is being fully converted to being a secret police force that will be directly controlled by Trump.

There should be no domestic army that conceals itself in this way.

Particulalry when Public, elected officials are attending one of their facilities.

The arrest of the mayor was particularly egregious and another step by TrumpCo. toward the kind of brutish, thuggish behaviour of failed states.

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rareboy said:
It should be clear by now that ICE is being fully converted to being a secret police force that will be directly controlled by Trump.

There should be no domestic army that conceals itself in this way.
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These "ICE officials" are rumored to be private contractors hired by the Trump Administration. Notably, Erik Prince (formerly of Blackwater infamy) was hanging around Mar-A-Lago in 2024.


The "little green men" of ICE are wearing masks and balaclavas to hide their identity. The sleuths who worked on the Jan 6th insurrectionists should get busy and figure out who they are.
 
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